Has Steven Gerrard been a failure as he has never won the league ?

[Spear]

 

[mnb089mnb]

no

 

[allouso]

no

 

[Humongous Fungus]

No

 

[Anon]

No. Otherwise that's a lot, lot of players we're casting as 'failures'. Trophies seems to help the view in the modern age, though I don't think it should. Players be judged on individual merits when it's a team game.

 

[Pangle]

Here, fishy, fishy!

 

[Anon]

Bah, you can tell how long it's been for me posting in the Prem section that I didn't spot the OP...

 

[LeoRahi]

No way!

 

[Posh Hammer]

Ridiculous thread.

One of the all time PL greats. Its not his fault the majority of Liverpool players in the PL era haven't been up to it.

 

[Whitechapel]

No.

 

[Steady]

Yes.

Wait, no.

 

[mase]

Ah, a thread from Spear mocking Stevie Me and Liverpool.

If we can just get livercool (was it him) to post one of is 'Areyouhavingalaugh'chester United' posts, this place will begin to feel like home!


[ontopic]No, of course not[/ontopic]

 

[Mustard]

 

[Stevencc]

Spear when he learned he wouldn't be punished for his memes...

 

[BlueBee]

I like that 'mediocre wummery' has like this .

 

[Tilbury]

Spear will like this.. "Norwegian Liverpool fans who named daughter YNWA prepare for Anfield visit"
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ghter-ynwa-anfield-liverpool?CMP=share_btn_tw
Haha oh dear.

 

[Stevencc]

Spear will like this.. "Norwegian Liverpool fans who named daughter YNWA prepare for Anfield visit"
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ghter-ynwa-anfield-liverpool?CMP=share_btn_tw
Haha oh dear.

Lord almighty

 

[Renegade]

Yes.

 

[LeoRahi]

Spear will like this.. "Norwegian Liverpool fans who named daughter YNWA prepare for Anfield visit"
http://www.theguardian.com/football...ghter-ynwa-anfield-liverpool?CMP=share_btn_tw
Haha oh dear.

ROFLMFAO

 

[ZianfrancoGoal]

Fitting like

hope I never get one from it

 

[silkyman]

First locked thread of the post TFF world?

 

[Tilbury]

No Liverpool mods

 

[sl1k]

LOL

 

[Spear]

No Liverpool mods

This is a great point, and Pags should pay heed to this, it was very unfair the way it was tainted

 

[Jarvis]

 

[Spear]

 

[Spear]

 

[merseyboyred]

Incredibly, I think you were actually worse before the memes.

WB.

 

[Rotimi]

Much as I hate to admit it, Gerrard has been Liverpool's greatest servant the last 2 decades, regardless of their barren premiership status. Pampered would be in the same boat if Roman hadn't shown up with his money(except Lampard left). Zola didn't win the premiership, neither did Le Tissier. Doesn't make them failures now, does it?

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Its a question I always wonder what the best answer is to.

If I had been a top class player,, would I rather have been a player who moved about to the better teams, won a lot of medals, but would probably in long run be forgotten in a mix of many trophy winning sides they have over the years.

or......

would I rather be the best player at my chosen club winning less medals, but becoming a legend who 20-30-40 plus years down the line will still always be remembered as one of the best players ever to fans of that club.

abit like the Le Tiss aspect where he has very little at all in terms of personal achievements, but he will always be remembered at that club whereas he could have moved elsewhere, but would just have become one of many.

I think I'd actually rather be the legend, you get a lot more respect down line.