Incompetent Managers and their decisions

[saddler78]

anything whitney does full stop.

 

[Gator]

Been a few in my time following Gills (1999), I thought Jepson was awful. But definitely Mark Stimson with regards to having unbelievably bad man management, arrogance, humourless, a terrible attitude towards the fans, trying to keep us in league one by signing non-league level players of the likes of Stuart Thurgood, Leroy Griffiths, Mark McCammon and the much maligned Adam Miller. Combine that with the worst away record in England when we failed to win for something like 40+ consecutive games, including an entire season. He made Justin Edinburgh look like Ancelotti. Must be something about us and Essex managers.

At least he gave us Simeon Jackson.

 

[SMH]

Owen Coyle - Absolutely everything!

Uwe Rosler - Having Oriol Riera and Andy Delort, both big money striker signings at his disposal and instead playing Marc Antoine Fortune as a loan striker. Putting 10 men behind the ball in the 1st leg of the Championship playoffs. At home! Picking Gary Caldwell as the first penalty taker in the FA Cup semi final shootout against Arsenal.

Chris Hutchings - The less said the better. At least we were top of the Premier League under him at one point.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Chris Hutchings - The less said the better. At least we were top of the Premier League under him at one point.

He'd be on my list, took arguably our most talented set of players,which at the start of the season pulled Chelsea apart and made them a sack of shit. Very good number two for us though, think he was best staying as an assistant.

Notable mentions to Jim Jefferies, Bryan Robson and Peter Taylor. I'd add Peter Jackson but to be fair his hands were tied some what.

 

[Jockney]

Been a few in my time following Gills (1999), I thought Jepson was awful. But definitely Mark Stimson with regards to having unbelievably bad man management, arrogance, humourless, a terrible attitude towards the fans, trying to keep us in league one by signing non-league level players of the likes of Stuart Thurgood, Leroy Griffiths, Mark McCammon and the much maligned Adam Miller. Combine that with the worst away record in England when we failed to win for something like 40+ consecutive games, including an entire season. He made Justin Edinburgh look like Ancelotti. Must be something about us and Essex managers.

At least he gave us Simeon Jackson.

You weren't on here at the time, but the Gillingham fans who were here were insufferably smug about how good they thought Miller was after a few games. It gives me no end of pleasure to hear that it went badly thereafter.

 

[roversfan2001]

Steve "the fans spiked my drink" Kean.

 

[King Kev]

For us it's got to be Steve Eyre. Older fans will no doubt look at the infamous Graham Barrow era but I wasn't around back then.

Steve Eyre was a very well dressed man. He had a lovely range of V neck jumpers in many different colours. He often wore smart brown shoes to compliment the jumpers, and to give off the impression that the man had a clue about what he was doing.
His failings were quite simple really. He'd come to Rochdale from the Man City U6's or something ridiculous, and tried to bring half the City youth team with him. On football manager, this sometimes works. But in the reality of men's football in league 1... No chance. We were destined for bottom of the league and relegation. There were 1 or 2 half decent players actually... David Ball... Andrew Tutte when he could be arsed... That's about it really.
We got bullied every week.

I recall that he made an obscene amount of loan signings. Like there would be a new loan signing each week. Quite amusingly there were peole saying he should be appointed manager at Bury last season because he 'talks sense' on GMR.

 

[K-Win]

Uwe Rosler - Having Oriol Riera and Andy Delort, both big money striker signings at his disposal and instead playing Marc Antoine Fortune as a loan striker. Putting 10 men behind the ball in the 1st leg of the Championship playoffs. At home! Picking Gary Caldwell as the first penalty taker in the FA Cup semi final shootout against Arsenal.

Championship play-offs? FA Cup Semi-Final? Close the thread - I think we have a winner here.

 

[K-Win]

Steve "the fans spiked my drink" Kean.

Steve Kean was hilariously bad. His post-match interviews after each sorry defeat were worthy of Comical Ali.

 

[SMH]

Championship play-offs? FA Cup Semi-Final? Close the thread - I think we have a winner here.

I could have got us in the playoffs with the squad we had that season. As for the FA Cup semi final, it's not hard if you get a good draw. Avram Grant got you to a final for christ sake.

He'd be on my list, took arguably our most talented set of players,which at the start of the season pulled Chelsea apart and made them a sack of shit. Very good number two for us though, think he was best staying as an assistant.

Yes I think it's safe to say Paul Jewell was the brains of the operation in that partnership.

 

[SF_]

Graham Westley.

Texting players to tell them they're transfer listed... texting players at 2am the night before a game talking about UFOs.

Flooding the squad with the likes of Andy Procter, Graham Cummins, Anthony Elding, Lee Trundle, David Amoo, Joel Byrom, Chris Beardsley, Shane Cansdell-Sherriff, Luke Foster, Aaron Brown, Chris Holroyd... plus any other forgettable twats we signed from the abyss.

No doubt in my mind that we have dropped to League Two if we didn't sack him in time, even February was too late in my book, left Grayson with a lot to do.

 

[Loyal Dale]

For us it's got to be Steve Eyre. Older fans will no doubt look at the infamous Graham Barrow era but I wasn't around back then.

Steve Eyre was a very well dressed man. He had a lovely range of V neck jumpers in many different colours. He often wore smart brown shoes to compliment the jumpers, and to give off the impression that the man had a clue about what he was doing.
His failings were quite simple really. He'd come to Rochdale from the Man City U6's or something ridiculous, and tried to bring half the City youth team with him. On football manager, this sometimes works. But in the reality of men's football in league 1... No chance. We were destined for bottom of the league and relegation. There were 1 or 2 half decent players actually... David Ball... Andrew Tutte when he could be arsed... That's about it really.
We got bullied every week.

No Chance. Barrow was so much worse in every respect than Eyre. He ruined the morale within the club from top to bottom, brought in every one of his ageing pals and gave them all the money, leaving us with nothing to spend on anyone else, threatened supporters who dared to question him, and actually thought that he was doing a good job !!!

Eyre... would have actually made a decent assistant to an experienced Manager imho. The big mistake he made was bringing in Frankie Bunn as his no 2 who was useless and a bit thick.

He relied heavily on loans, as the Board wouldn't let him sign any players after a few months. However, I did have much sympathy with him, as they sold Chris O Grady after 1 game of his tenure, and never allowed him to spend any of the money despite telling the fans that it would all be made available to replace him.

 

[King Kev]

Graham Westley.

Texting players to tell them they're transfer listed... texting players at 2am the night before a game talking about UFOs.

Flooding the squad with the likes of Andy Procter, Graham Cummins, Anthony Elding, Lee Trundle, David Amoo, Joel Byrom, Chris Beardsley, Shane Cansdell-Sherriff, Luke Foster, Aaron Brown, Chris Holroyd... plus any other forgettable twats we signed from the abyss.

No doubt in my mind that we have dropped to League Two if we didn't sack him in time, even February was too late in my book, left Grayson with a lot to do.

My kids call me medal winner

 

[King Kev]

No Chance. Barrow was so much worse in every respect than Eyre. He ruined the morale within the club from top to bottom, brought in every one of his ageing pals and gave them all the money, leaving us with nothing to spend on anyone else, threatened supporters who dared to question him, and actually thought that he was doing a good job !!!

Eyre... would have actually made a decent assistant to an experienced Manager imho. The big mistake he made was bringing in Frankie Bunn as his no 2 who was useless and a bit thick.

He relied heavily on loans, as the Board wouldn't let him sign any players after a few months. However, I did have much sympathy with him, as they sold Chris O Grady after 1 game of his tenure, and never allowed him to spend any of the money despite telling the fans that it would all be made available to replace him.

Are you old enough to remember Mick Docherty at Rochdale?

 

[SaddlerJonny]

Jon Whitney signing no midfielders or forwards whatsoever all summer despite our main issue last season being goal scoring, he instead signs two wing backs known for their attacking, but then doesn't play the 3511 we were playing all last season to make the best of their width. Instead he bombs out our best centre half and plays 4411 when we only have ONE winger who is in terrible form. He then complains in the press after losing 1 nil where we barely threatened that we don't have enough width.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Jon Whitney signing no midfielders or forwards whatsoever all summer despite our main issue last season being goal scoring, he instead signs two wing backs known for their attacking, but then doesn't play the 3511 we were playing all last season to make the best of their width. Instead he bombs out our best centre half and plays 4411 when we only have ONE winger who is in terrible form. He then complains in the press after losing 1 nil where we barely threatened that we don't have enough width.

Pretty much sums everything up perfectly.

 

[ThisTinpotLeague]

Championship play-offs? FA Cup Semi-Final? Close the thread - I think we have a winner here.

'Wigan fans pretending they're massive' shocker

My kids call me medal winner

Never a bad time to be reminded of that

 

[Fedora Dale]

Are you old enough to remember Mick Docherty at Rochdale?

I am.

Not a brilliant manager (although a decent bloke).

Far better than Jimmy Greenhoff, though - if we're trawling the dark ages of Dale's dismal past...

I also think Eyre was far worse than Barrow. The latter's "old mates" policy at least kept us in a thoroughly mediocre 17th in L2. Eyre's ineptitude would, if allowed to continue, have taken us to non-league...

Alan Buckley wasn't reet good, either.

 

[Lance Stoe]

Alan Knill. Dirty squirrel baiting charlatan

 

[King Kev]

I am.

Not a brilliant manager (although a decent bloke).


Far better than Jimmy Greenhoff, though - if we're trawling the dark ages of Dale's dismal past...

I also think Eyre was far worse than Barrow. The latter's "old mates" policy at least kept us in a thoroughly mediocre 17th in L2. Eyre's ineptitude would, if allowed to continue, have taken us to non-league...

Alan Buckley wasn't reet good, either.

Grandparents were Dale supporters, they started going after packing in Old Trafford in the early 1990s. My nan in particular was a fan of Doc jnr, thought he played it the right way and he should have been given more time. He did of course manage the two cup runs, but league wise things hardly improved for you. What happened to Sutton, sacked or resigned? I started going to Bury in 1993 and pre Parkin it was only Sutton who ever got you near the playoffs, 11th in 1993 and 9th in 1994, always remember that late season win at Gigg Lane in 1994 that kept your playoff dreams alive, ours had long since gone that season.

 

[PuB]

Alan Knill. Dirty squirrel baiting charlatan

Don't you go and get us all banned again

 

[Bob Settle]

David Flitcroft.....Oh deary me where to begin.
As he got us promoted everyone outside of Bury FC claimed he was some kind of miracle worker, he wasn't.
He had one of the biggest budgets in BFC's history, we made record losses every season under him.
After promotion, and despite already having a solid, strong strike force he proceeded to sign two more strikers on high wages. He didn't bother to bolster the rest of the squad properly, signing journeymen and unfit players to cover several positions across the park leaving us hugely stretched everywhere else on the pitch. As a first choice keeper he signed a 19 year old keeper on a season's long loan who had never played a first team game before. He then carted him off when he wasn't up to scratch and started swapping keepers every couple of months. One keeper arrived on loan from Wolves on the Saturday and was gone by the Monday.
He tried to convert Hallam Hope, an out of form striker into a left winger, it didn't work and we had no cover on the wings, he then loaned him out. He signs Lee Erwin on loan, a striker, then tries to convert him to a winger, it didn't work.
We went on a good run and then it ended, he started to panic and we lost every away game for nearly 5 months. Not just your usual defeats, but dickings, this included a 6-0 defeat at Coventry, a team grossly out of form.
He harped on about how he liked to blood youth then refused to play them, choosing out of form, unfit players from the first team to fill in for the ludicrous injury crisis we had. (more on that later).
Said youngsters were then loaned out to Norway's none league.
His exciting football philosophy went out the window and it turned turgid, negative and dirty.
Despite having six strikers available he constantly started a 4-5-1 despite the fact it wasn't working. Including in a 3rd round FA Cup home tie with Bradford City, a team in our division.
He played 37 year old Ryan Lowe on right wing for said game after Mellis went off injured.
He started our FA Cup fourth round tie at home to Hull City's reserves with a central midfielder at right back and a central midfielder on right wing, despite having a full back and winger on the bench.

Then came the big insult when, after a particular run of away day drubbings followed by nightly home games, our crowds dropped. Four points from two home games and he claimed we were proving the doubters wrong because we were 13th at the time, and declared he was baffled by the fans deserting the club. That did not go down well at all.

Our home form just about dragged us over the line without any last couple of game nerves. Despite being safe we lost three of our last four games and at no point were any of the talented youth lads put in. Instead our players signed on loan from other league clubs were played instead. Only in the last half hour of the last game did he put three young lads on. He then referenced this as evidence of him blooding the youth at the end of season forum. Did any of these lads get a look in the following season? Of course they didn't.
By May 2016 we had a mess of team, hampered by injuries caused by his training regime, a load of loan signings who were crap because Flitcroft refused to blood the youth players he apparently rated. Then there were all the players frozen out because he had fallen out with them. In several interviews in the closing weeks and after the last game had ended he constantly harped on about what an achievement 16th in league one was. My favourite quote was 'we have made staying up look easy.'
Meanwhile Dale on a fraction of our budget had nearly made the playoffs and Burton had been promoted.

That was just the 15/16 season.....

Not a fan then.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Yeah, we should of realised what an awful twat he was but our board at the time comprised a collection of fools and craven idiots. Thick as shit the lot of them.
Buckle arrived, immediately did some media which made him look all manly, signed about 39 terrible players and told the press we were now the " Barcelona of league 2" much to everybody's surprise.
I can deal with terrible managers, we're in the lower leagues after all but for pure deluded, cunty behaviour and such a ludicrously high opinion of himself Buckle is the best / worst. Sort of bloke who commissions life size portraits of himself and orders his poor wife to iron his pants.
Terrible c***.

Buckle wasnt great, but he got players in like Lee Brown, Muzzy Carayol, Michael Smith and Danny Woodards.

Mark Mcghee...now there is a real fuckwad of a manager.

 

[Aber gas]

Buckle wasnt great, but he got players in like Lee Brown, Muzzy Carayol, Michael Smith and Danny Woodards.

Mark Mcghee...now there is a real fuckwad of a manager.

Chuck enough shit at a wall some sticks. Tbf it's not his management skills that annoys me as much as his personality and general being.
You'll get no argument from me on McGhee being a useless c*** mind

 

[UTS]

I do feel Lee Clark could be featuring on this thread very soon.

 

[Bobbin']

I do feel Lee Clark could be featuring on this thread very soon.

Didn't Lee Clark turn your fortunes around last season?

Hasn't he also signed a lot of players that all your fans seemed happy with?

You won the first game of the season and then lost away at a promotion favourite.

Don't get me wrong though, Lee Clark is a proper gash manager but not because of what he's doing/done at Bury.

 

[UTS]

Didn't Lee Clark turn your fortunes around last season?

Hasn't he also signed a lot of players that all your fans seemed happy with?

You won the first game of the season and then lost away at a promotion favourite.

Don't get me wrong though, Lee Clark is a proper gash manager but not because of what he's doing/done at Bury.

Anybody can throw cash about and make a good team, doesn't mean they are going to perform well. I think it's pretty obvious already which direction Burys season will go in and it's not promotion. I'll call it now, we will be absolutely bang average if not worse, Lee Clark will get sacked around February and it will be another year of critical underachievement given what was spent on the club. We could even go under.

It's Bury FC, the club is ran as if it was amateur off the field, and as a fanbase we have to suffer with the big spenders tag even though we all know how it will end.

 

[Bobbin']

Anybody can throw cash about and make a good team, doesn't mean they are going to perform well. I think it's pretty obvious already which direction Burys season will go in and it's not promotion. I'll call it now, we will be absolutely bang average if not worse, Lee Clark will get sacked around February and it will be another year of critical underachievement given what was spent on the club. We could even go under.

It's Bury FC, the club is ran as if it was amateur off the field, and as a fanbase we have to suffer with the big spenders tag even though we all know how it will end.

Did you or any other Bury genuinely expect to be challenging for promotion, really? There are a lot of good teams in L1 this year.

I can't be bothered to look it up properly but I'm pretty sure you were in the bottom four and staring relegation in the face when Clark came in and turned it around. Surely being absolutely 'bang average' and finishing around mid-table is an improvement on only just surviving at the end of last season.

Two games have been played and you've lost at Wigan, you won't be the only ones. We lost 2-0 at newly promoted Plymouth and I'm still expecting us to be there or there abouts in 44 games time.

I don't particularly like or rate Lee Clark but you seem to be unnecessarily over the top on this one.

 

[UTS]

Did you or any other Bury genuinely expect to be challenging for promotion, really? There are a lot of good teams in L1 this year.

I can't be bothered to look it up properly but I'm pretty sure you were in the bottom four and staring relegation in the face when Clark came in and turned it around. Surely being absolutely 'bang average' and finishing around mid-table is an improvement on only just surviving at the end of last season.

Two games have been played and you've lost at Wigan, you won't be the only ones. We lost 2-0 at newly promoted Plymouth and I'm still expecting us to be there or there abouts in 44 games time.

I don't particularly like or rate Lee Clark but you seem to be unnecessarily over the top on this one.

Lee Clark took over from a team sitting 22nd in the league and got them to the lofty heights of 19th. We were one point into the relegation zone when he arrived and we ended up 1 point out of it. A miracle 2 point difference.

We won't end up anywhere near promotion. For what it's worth in the premature predictions I had us down for a 15th placed finish and bet JJH £25 that we won't finish in the top half.

 

[King Kev]

Didn't Lee Clark turn your fortunes around last season?

Hasn't he also signed a lot of players that all your fans seemed happy with?

You won the first game of the season and then lost away at a promotion favourite.

Don't get me wrong though, Lee Clark is a proper gash manager but not because of what he's doing/done at Bury.

Ignore the posts made by this idiot please.