It's the little things in football that annoy you!

[Glasshalffullpools]

Real fans to me, are those that support thier local team, weather the is Arsenal or Accrington..... what winds up us "real fans" is someone sat in Carlisle or Exeter suddenly deciding he's a Man U fan cos they are on telly

 

[oakroader]

don't agree......"real fans" go to games home and away,regardless of which team.
"plastic fans" follow their team,through thick and thin,from a distance-maybe havn't seen them in years.
how many of us are actually "plastic" due to location,logistics,finance but are nonetheless just as passionate?
we should not discriminate just cause i love my team as much as a "real fan" although i am no longer local to it.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Ok .. I see your points..... obviously people move for reasons and may follow thier parents teams etc, the point I was getting at are those ones that just announce from nowhere they are a Chelsea fan .. you know what I'm getting at..... your from Luton mate, hang around the holiday departure lounge and you'll get my point

 

[Vanni]

Agree with both Glass and Oakroader. In my eyes, if, say, a Carlisle fan is living in London, then I certainly don't expect him to make every home match. Even if he doesn't see one single match, he's still a fan. However, I expect a football fan born and bred in Carlisle to follow his local side, not one of the big PL clubs. Nothing wrong with having a 'preferred' PL side, one you can watch on the box on Sundays, but your local club should come first.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Here here!!! That is what I was trying to say !!!

 

[Richard Cranium]

I used to love Man Utd because Paul Scholes was incredible, My Dad despite him growing up being a Man Utd fan as his Dad was a Manc (Born there so It's allowed) forced me to go to Field Mill. I remember never getting up when we scored for the first 6/7 games I seen but then the start of the new season I loved it. Been a season ticket holder ever since. 15th full season next year!

 

[oakroader]

Ok .. I see your points..... obviously people move for reasons and may follow thier parents teams etc, the point I was getting at are those ones that just announce from nowhere they are a Chelsea fan .. you know what I'm getting at..... your from Luton mate, hang around the holiday departure lounge and you'll get my point

not everyone who fly's out of London/Luton airport is gonna be a local so there are bound to be the capital teams represented via replica shirts,and what about those who live or were born in no-mans land and are miles/hours away from nearest option? Coming from Bedfordshire for example,should you support Luton,or only if you were born in the town? What's the parameters?

 

[Laker]

not everyone who fly's out of London/Luton airport is gonna be a local so there are bound to be the capital teams represented via replica shirts,and what about those who live or were born in no-mans land and are miles/hours away from nearest option? Coming from Bedfordshire for example,should you support Luton,or only if you were born in the town? What's the parameters?

You're not a football supporter unless you go, hence "supporting" the club financially and emotionally. The word "fan" derives from the word "fanatic" which has a much different meaning, it's a much vaguer meaning and therefore rather meaningless to me. I don't identify with these people.

Anyway, I only truly respect football supporters, not fans, as they're the ones who know what it means to be invested in a club and it's community. I don't care if that's at Old Trafford or at the Abbey.

But sitting in an armchair and claiming you're a supporter doesn't wash with me, I don't care if you've got no money. If you live close enough to your home team's ground you'll be able to afford to go a few times a season.

And if you've moved, I see no problem in adopting your new home town team - my dad comes from Sussex originally and was a Pompey season ticket holder as a kid. He moved to Cambridge in the 70s and has been to the Abbey since, taking in Pompey games where possible but supporting his local team. That's far more admirable than being an armchair Man U fan. 2CW yes, but supporter nonetheless.

 

[Richard Cranium]

Depends, I know someone who loves Mansfield, Used to go home and away week in week out, He's got a young boy now. Just had his 1st Birthday and now my mate is out of work and he will admit himself they struggle. Even if he had the extra money one week to be able to afford to go to Field Mill it makes more sense to put it aside and use it on something more important.

The only people who piss me off are those who support some other club whether that be Man Utd or Notts Forest, Never attend the game then sit around our town and do nothing but slag off the local team.

 

[shoddycollins]

Players " who know where the goal is" ....If anyone on your own team doesn't know where the goal is why keep it a secret?

Thanks for that one... I shall add it to my footballisms tumblr (see the link in my sig)

 

[Sparrow]

The word 'cupset'. No wonder everyone has lost interest in the FA Cup.

 

[IanH]

You're not a football supporter unless you go, hence "supporting" the club financially and emotionally. The word "fan" derives from the word "fanatic" which has a much different meaning, it's a much vaguer meaning and therefore rather meaningless to me. I don't identify with these people.

Interestingly, the Spanish verb 'soportar' (so I'm guessing some latin-derived connection to our own verb) means to tolerate / put up with / bear something. So, suddenly, supporting Cambridge becomes quite the commendable act.

One thing that's always curious to me (as a non-frequent match day goer of any tier of football) is that die hards who watch their team play up and down the country every weekend try to ridicule the absense of those who actually spend their weekends playing football.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

You're not a football supporter unless you go, hence "supporting" the club financially and emotionally. The word "fan" derives from the word "fanatic" which has a much different meaning, it's a much vaguer meaning and therefore rather meaningless to me. I don't identify with these people.

Anyway, I only truly respect football supporters, not fans, as they're the ones who know what it means to be invested in a club and it's community. I don't care if that's at Old Trafford or at the Abbey.

But sitting in an armchair and claiming you're a supporter doesn't wash with me, I don't care if you've got no money. If you live close enough to your home team's ground you'll be able to afford to go a few times a season.

And if you've moved, I see no problem in adopting your new home town team - my dad comes from Sussex originally and was a Pompey season ticket holder as a kid. He moved to Cambridge in the 70s and has been to the Abbey since, taking in Pompey games where possible but supporting his local team. That's far more admirable than being an armchair Man U fan. 2CW yes, but supporter nonetheless.

Ok where to start?? Of course everyone's different, I was born in a Durham village , closest league club Pools , Dad supported them no brained, and even though I'm in Teesside surrounded by Bora fans I'm still physically closer to Pools than Bora by a mile , much to the annoyance of the Red noses around here ! Pretty simple for me up here, but one look at the map and I see the minefield that seems to be everywhere.... having thunked about it, if your team hasn't been passed down then choose wisely ,,once chosen do your best to attend and support through thick and thin ,,but if you live in one of the 70 odd towns and cities that have a football club, try to choose one of them

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Thanks for that one... I shall add it to my footballisms tumblr (see the link in my sig)

My dad used to hate managers saying that they are hoping for " a result" a six goal stuffing is still a result!

 

[Vanni]

You're not a football supporter unless you go, hence "supporting" the club financially and emotionally. The word "fan" derives from the word "fanatic" which has a much different meaning, it's a much vaguer meaning and therefore rather meaningless to me. I don't identify with these people.

Anyway, I only truly respect football supporters, not fans, as they're the ones who know what it means to be invested in a club and it's community. I don't care if that's at Old Trafford or at the Abbey.

But sitting in an armchair and claiming you're a supporter doesn't wash with me, I don't care if you've got no money. If you live close enough to your home team's ground you'll be able to afford to go a few times a season.

And if you've moved, I see no problem in adopting your new home town team - my dad comes from Sussex originally and was a Pompey season ticket holder as a kid. He moved to Cambridge in the 70s and has been to the Abbey since, taking in Pompey games where possible but supporting his local team. That's far more admirable than being an armchair Man U fan. 2CW yes, but supporter nonetheless.

Whilst your dad found no problem in adopting another side, I don't think I'd be able to do it. Let's say I've been watching the U's for over 20 years, but find myself having to move to another city or town due to work or family. Will I go to the local side's matches or will I listen to Johnno on U's Player? I would definitely choose the latter. I just can't picture myself enjoying a football game while the club I support is playing.

The supporter vs fan thing got me thinking. Surely a guy who can't make a lot of home games but subscribes to U's Player and purchases replica shirts, match day programmes and other merchandise from the club is also financially supporting his club? So is he a fan or a supporter?

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

People who care why a person supports a team and how many times they attend in a season.

 

[Murphy]

People who care why a person supports a team and how many times they attend in a season.

Exactly the sort of thing a plastic supporter would say. We've got you sussed C&B.

 

[Laker]

Whilst your dad found no problem in adopting another side, I don't think I'd be able to do it. Let's say I've been watching the U's for over 20 years, but find myself having to move to another city or town due to work or family. Will I go to the local side's matches or will I listen to Johnno on U's Player? I would definitely choose the latter. I just can't picture myself enjoying a football game while the club I support is playing.

The supporter vs fan thing got me thinking. Surely a guy who can't make a lot of home games but subscribes to U's Player and purchases replica shirts, match day programmes and other merchandise from the club is also financially supporting his club? So is he a fan or a supporter?

Well that's similar to buying a shirt and sitting on your sofa isn't it? The physical/emotional/passionate support is as important as the financial aspect.

It's a very confusing argument to be honest. I know what I think but it's hard to put into words.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Back on topic, but related to the last few posts......The 3000 / 5000/ 10000 ( choose your own appropiate figure) that turn up at the first whiff of success , then disappear soon after.... where do they go?

 

[BeesKnees]

Back on topic, but related to the last few posts......The 3000 / 5000/ 10000 ( choose your own appropiate figure) that turn up at the first whiff of success , then disappear soon after.... where do they go?

Got to agree with this, 1500 home fans all season became 5000+ on the last day. Bet we don't see them again for a while.

 

[shoddycollins]

Got to agree with this, 1500 home fans all season became 5000+ on the last day. Bet we don't see them again for a while.

Same here, we get less than 4,000 home fans for each home game... draw Sunderland away in the FA cup last season... 6,000 turn up.

 

[Aber gas]

Its always going to happen when your team has a bit of success . I don't mind the fair weather fans myself , I appreciate the bit of extra revenue they bring and hope a few of them become regulars . At the play off final I saw people I haven't seen down the mem for years , hopefully I'll see them a bit more next season .

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

Pools took 16000 to Cardiff and 10000 to Sunderland .... We average around 3500 home support ..... where on earth are these extra life long supporters coming from?

 

[Laker]

Yep same with us. Averaged 3,000 to 3,500 until last season when our average shot up to 5,000. But that aside we've had 21,000 at Wembley before and 6,000 at Old Trafford on a Tuesday night. I mean, seriously.

 

[Cardsfan]

While there are lots of day-trippers for these games, lots of the extra numbers are "proper" fans too. Not everyone makes every home game, so the 500-1000 who go to about half of the home games, will definitely go to the big games. Exiles make an extra effort for big games like that too.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

I've often wondered how many fans we have , if the average is say 3500 , it's not the same 3500 every game, I wonder how many of those are rotating fans..... not 16000 I guess..... got to be a few though

 

[GodsGift]

Every team employing the tactic of tapping the ball back to a midfielder from the kick off who then goes on to boot it off the pitch deep into the opposition's half. This isn't fucking rugby union, we're not playing for territory.

 

[Laker]

I also think it's quite amusing when a defender under no pressure will knock it back to the keeper to hoof upfield, as if his keeper us located in a better position some 25 yards back to hoof it long. Why the defender couldn't play a nice controlled chip forward to a striker is often beyond me.

 

[Glasshalffullpools]

It's usually to buy a bit of time so the wingers and forwards can get up, I agree though, it rarely achieves anything

 

[oakroader]

who would want to put on another players sweat stained,snot stained,spunk stained shirt after a game.....messi or Ronaldo excepted !!