Stickied League 2 Away Support Thread 2024/25

[JJ1990]

Most clubs post the number of tickets sold, we do it all the time and it bugs me. It should always bums in seat for any given game.

 

[Crewelad87]

112 Accrington at Colchester
97 Harrogate at Barrow

Can't see a figure for Vale at Doncaster

 

[mozzavale]

112 Accrington at Colchester
97 Harrogate at Barrow

Can't see a figure for Vale at Doncaster

Same, nothing posted anywhere. Sold 900+ yesterday. Hard to tell if there was more. Wouldn't say less than that though.

 

[Jimmy Anderson]

My mate said 952 vale at Doncaster in 8438 crowd but don't know where he got them figures from.

 

[Moonie]

That shower of shit don't deserve that support.

This. Absolutely this.

 

[Meadow]

My mate said 952 vale at Doncaster in 8438 crowd but don't know where he got them figures from.

FotMob.

 

[FiRTHYY]

Not a hope in hell there were 18,011 at the game. Attendance figures are a farce!

Don’t know where you find 7,000+ empty seats today, but whatever!

Cheers for the three points.

 

[Jimmy Anderson]

FotMob.

Yeah I've just text him and he said that he got them figures from fotmob. I don't use that app so have no idea if there figures are usually accurate or not.

 

[クレイグ]

Don’t know where you find 7,000+ empty seats today, but whatever!

Cheers for the three points.

Might have been counting the 2,000 that were vacated when our third goal went in?

 

[Son of Cod]

Don’t know where you find 7,000+ empty seats today, but whatever!

Cheers for the three points.

Not sure what 7000 empty seats at VP looks like or how full the stand with the cameras in was but the Bradford ends you could see had absolutely loads of empty seats. Nowhere near Donny/MK levels but still lots.

 

[Alfie]

What's the point in even having a thread about it if it's the BBC figures you're using.

Hang on.

The BBC numbers are total attendance figures and I add them as a bonus cause some enjoy reading how their team are doing compared to others. Besides they are auto added to page when I download results etc.

The away numbers are solely those posted on this thread.

I cannot amend the BBC figures but can and do so with away numbers whenever challenged.
So I'll say you are getting the best of both.

 

[FiRTHYY]

Not sure what 7000 empty seats at VP looks like or how full the stand with the cameras in was but the Bradford ends you could see had absolutely loads of empty seats. Nowhere near Donny/MK levels but still lots.

It’s deceiving - the stands are large in capacity and stature.

It might stem from the empty NW corner, but it only holds 2,300 and there’s usually 500 or so in there, as per yesterday.

 

[Son of Cod]

It’s deceiving - the stands are large in capacity and stature.

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It might stem from the empty NW corner, but it only holds 2,300 and there’s usually 500 or so in there, as per yesterday.

Yeah that's definitely deceptive, the stand behind the goal looked emptier on telly. Do you get extended highlights? I'll screenshot some when I watch ours to show you what I mean if it's not clear on the 2 minute goal reel (which I won't be watching today). I'm not having a dig at all by the way, firstly as I'm in no position to with our home crowds but secondly, it's more that I genuinely have no idea what the difference between say 15000 and 20000 would look like at VP. Is Wikipedia correct with regardd to your current capacity? Says 24840? I'm assuming it's actually a bit lower than that nowadays.

 

[Alfie]

9,629 at meadow Lane with 634 Swindon fans in attendance

Sky / BBC have same numbers but in different order.

 

[Son of Cod]

Hang on.

The BBC numbers are total attendance figures and I add them as a bonus cause some enjoy reading how their team are doing compared to others. Besides they are auto added to page when I download results etc.

The away numbers are solely those posted on this thread.

I cannot amend the BBC figures but can and do so with away numbers whenever challenged.
So I'll say you are getting the best of both.

Absolutely wild that Notts have actually been getting 4000 home fans all season and The Viking Magpie is walking around this thread like he is on The West Wing every time Grimsby get below 7000.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Absolutely wild that Notts have actually been getting 4000 home fans all season and The Viking Magpie is walking around this thread like he is on The West Wing every time Grimsby get below 7000.

It's not that wild, they've simply confused Notts with a historically smaller club that also happens to play in black and white.

A simple and understandable mistake but one they have quickly resolved.

After all you'd never see 9,629 at Blundell Park nowadays even if you counted the rather generous 1,500 that are claimed to be no shows each game.

 

[FiRTHYY]

Yeah that's definitely deceptive, the stand behind the goal looked emptier on telly. Do you get extended highlights? I'll screenshot some when I watch ours to show you what I mean if it's not clear on the 2 minute goal reel (which I won't be watching today). I'm not having a dig at all by the way, firstly as I'm in no position to with our home crowds but secondly, it's more that I genuinely have no idea what the difference between say 15000 and 20000 would look like at VP. Is Wikipedia correct with regardd to your current capacity? Says 24840? I'm assuming it's actually a bit lower than that nowadays.

We have pitchside footage to come (Inside Matchdays), but I already know there was 15,700 ish City in the home end yesterday.

Capacity is officially 24,889 (used to be 25,136).

If anyone truly wishes to scrutinise figures, here’s the exact capacity for each section.

MAIN STAND

Upper Deck 4177
Lower Deck 4382
Directors 90
Press 135
Executive Boxes 262
Wheelchair Spaces 21
Helpers & Ambulant disabled 68
Total 9135

NW CORNER

Upper Deck 1753
Lower Deck 397
Wheelchair Spaces 22
Helper & Ambulant disabled 51
Total 2223

KOP

Upper Deck 3405
Lower Deck 3419
Bantams Bar 604
Wheelchair Spaces 25
Carers & Ambulant disabled 33
Total 7486

MIDLAND ROAD

Single Deck Stand 4375
Wheelchair Spaces 19
Helpers & Ambulant disabled 41
Total 4435

TL Dallas

Upper Deck 964
Lower Deck 574
Wheelchair Spaces 36
Helpers & Ambulant disabled 36
Total 1610

Grand Total 24889

 

[ROVERS⚽️]

Not sure what 7000 empty seats at VP looks like or how full the stand with the cameras in was but the Bradford ends you could see had absolutely loads of empty seats. Nowhere near Donny/MK levels but still lots.

Why feel the need to be critical of other peoples home attendances?. God help Grimsby if they had a 15k stadium with the 6k crowds then?. You’re sat 12th in the average home attendance table, wasn’t one of your crowds 4k the other week, does that mean over 50% empty seats?. I don’t get people’s need to claim attendances are false or mention empty seats when the home crowd is 3 times bigger than yours in Bradford’s case, almost every club in the football league goes from tickets sold, if Bradford had 18k tickets sold, of course a few people might miss each game. I think at Doncaster the figures given have seemed somewhat more representative of how many have actually been there this season, but that’s just my opinion. Truthfully though, who actually is privy to the information about which clubs go with tickets sold or bums on seats, whether that differs season to season etc…

 

[Pie and chips]

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Sky / BBC have same numbers but in different order.

Sorry i read it wrong on the scoreboard I've found the right attendance 9,296 with 634 away fans

 

[Son of Cod]

After all you'd never see 9,629 at Blundell Park nowadays even if you counted the rather generous 1,500 that are claimed to be no shows each game.

Yep, it is difficult to get attendances higher than your maximum capacity, no arguments from me there.

Why feel the need to be critical of other peoples home attendances?. God help Grimsby if they had a 15k stadium with the 6k crowds then?. You’re sat 12th in the average home attendance table, wasn’t one of your crowds 4k the other week, does that mean over 50% empty seats?. I don’t get people’s need to claim attendances are false or mention empty seats when the home crowd is 3 times bigger than yours in Bradford’s case, almost every club in the football league goes from tickets sold, if Bradford had 18k tickets sold, of course a few people might miss each game. I think at Doncaster the figures given have seemed somewhat more representative of how many have actually been there this season, but that’s just my opinion. Truthfully though, who actually is privy to the information about which clubs go with tickets sold or bums on seats, whether that differs season to season etc…

I wasn’t necessarily being critical, I was just using Donny and MK as examples of clubs who report larger attendances than actual bums on seats which traditionally you both have done. Worth noting that we're sat 12th in the home attendance table because of this kind of reporting. Like I've said before, in reality, you can bump us and Vale up a couple of positions in that table. And yep we've had some shockers of attendances over recent weeks, which I'm sure is the case for many sides in the division, but they just went unreported. I personally don't get why clubs started doing it on tickets sold rather than actual turnstile clicks as that's what it has traditionally been ever since attendances were recorded.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

It sounded critical. I like Valley Parade whatever the attendance.

Regardless of the method adopted in the words of Limerick Mariner Grimsby's home support is pathetic. I think that's harsh personally I'd say seasonally disappointing but at least they have great travelling numbers. That's what really matters after all

 

[Son of Cod]

Regardless of the method adopted in the words of Limerick Mariner Grimsby's home support is pathetic.

Posted minutes after you've liked a post that starts with the question "Why feel the need to be critical of other peoples home attendances?"

I think that's harsh personally I'd say seasonally disappointing but at least they have great travelling numbers. That's what really matters after all

Yes absolutely absurd notion that away support gets discussed in the away support thread.

 

[Dan Phillips]

Posted minutes after you've liked a post that starts with the question "Why feel the need to be critical of other peoples home attendances?"

Yes absolutely absurd notion that away support gets discussed in the away support thread.

I'm sure he's saying it was the Grimsby fan who called your home support pathetic?

 

[Son of Cod]

I'm sure he's saying it was the Grimsby fan who called your home support pathetic?

He's paraphrasing Limerick Mariner from a while back when he said something along the lines of Notts' until a few seasons ago frequently brought pathetic followings to BP.

 

[Dan Phillips]

He's paraphrasing Limerick Mariner from a while back when he said something along the lines of Notts' until a few seasons ago frequently brought pathetic followings to BP.

Then he's a hypocrite. Lol.

 

[Alfie]

Total attendance 4th / 5th Jan

Away support 4th / 5th Jan

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Posted minutes after you've liked a post that starts with the question "Why feel the need to be critical of other peoples home attendances?"

Yes absolutely absurd notion that away support gets discussed in the away support thread.

That's called a quotation of another poster, a Grimsby Town fan in fact . How to misread a post by SoC
He was critical of your home attendances. Just like you were of Bradfords with your post maybe it's a Grimsby Town thing?

I didn't say it was absurd to discuss away support on this thread? Where did you get that from chap? I said away pathetic attendances aren't as important as home attendances for the obvious reasons.

Please don't say I need to explain that to you as well.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

He's paraphrasing Limerick Mariner from a while back when he said something along the lines of Notts' until a few seasons ago frequently brought pathetic followings to BP.

Exactly not my words.

 

[TheEndIsNigh]

Yep, it is difficult to get attendances higher than your maximum capacity, no arguments from me there.


I wasn’t necessarily being critical, I was just using Donny and MK as examples of clubs who report larger attendances than actual bums on seats which traditionally you both have done. Worth noting that we're sat 12th in the home attendance table because of this kind of reporting. Like I've said before, in reality, you can bump us and Vale up a couple of positions in that table. And yep we've had some shockers of attendances over recent weeks, which I'm sure is the case for many sides in the division, but they just went unreported. I personally don't get why clubs started doing it on tickets sold rather than actual turnstile clicks as that's what it has traditionally been ever since attendances were recorded.

Agreed, I think it’s a shit way to do things. Tbf I’m not even sure whether Notts do it or not.

 

[Cloudy]

Why feel the need to be critical of other peoples home attendances?. God help Grimsby if they had a 15k stadium with the 6k crowds then?. You’re sat 12th in the average home attendance table, wasn’t one of your crowds 4k the other week, does that mean over 50% empty seats?. I don’t get people’s need to claim attendances are false or mention empty seats when the home crowd is 3 times bigger than yours in Bradford’s case, almost every club in the football league goes from tickets sold, if Bradford had 18k tickets sold, of course a few people might miss each game. I think at Doncaster the figures given have seemed somewhat more representative of how many have actually been there this season, but that’s just my opinion. Truthfully though, who actually is privy to the information about which clubs go with tickets sold or bums on seats, whether that differs season to season etc…

Yes, more that 50% empty seats, and visibly so.

Grimsby being 12th in the average attendance table is correct. In truth we are a mid table team and a mid table club. Small Town, population of circa 90k. Add Cleethorpes and combined it would be around 120k.

Having seen some EFL report some time ago, most clubs now announce tickets sold, not the numbers in attendance. No idea what the benefit of doing so is, but there you go. Think there are at least 2 exceptions, Port Vale being one.

Doncaster must have a population of over 300k and Bradford north of 500k? No surprise really that they have bigger attendances than those from smaller Towns