League 2 General Chat Thread

[Grimsby Road]

Shrewsbury, Burton and Cambridge were dreadful last year and the 7 of us probably all deserved to go down. They’ve circled the sinkhole for a while now so probably inevitable they go this year.

League 1 will eventually empty out of the teams with no major investment won't it ?


Burton have billionaires in charge now though , I wonder if their recruitment has just gone really badly wrong there .

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Notts County Football Club

With the club’s full support, Cedwyn Scott has undertaken a leave of absence to focus on receiving help for his mental health. We're all with you, Ceds

www.facebook.com

Naturally wishing him the very best for his recovery.

Pleased this has been made public and very happy to read that once in a position to do so he intends to open up and help others

 

[valefan16]

Their fans not think they're making the play offs now then?

We did warn them.

The lad on the forum probably still thinks so, got to admire his optimism!

Losing to them twice both times when dreadful was pretty much what did us, although giving 13 points out of 18 to our fellow relegation sides didn't help either.

How Burton stayed up is beyond me, they even let Ryan Loft score a winner past them! They've had some big investment and got excited about beating us in a friendly (after we'd had a double training session in the morning ) and don't think they've won yet have they?

Think them three and Crawley who have had their promotion side and staff taken apart will do. Its a difficult level that but those three can't really complain when they've been struggling for the past 2-3 seasons mostly.

It was such an avoidable relegation and needless from us.

 

[valefan16]

League 1 will eventually empty out of the teams with no major investment won't it ?


Burton have billionaires in charge now though , I wonder if their recruitment has just gone really badly wrong there .

Its tough up there now compared in my view to the past, we went up and first season sat 9th going into January but then Ipswich throw 2-3 million quid around and you realise its a huge ask to compete at the top end, look at this season, its even worse with Birmingham.

The bottom 8-9 are meh, and you've got clubs like Exeter and Lincoln competing well on modest budgets but one bad window and your likely toast.

 

[valefan16]

Notts County Football Club

With the club’s full support, Cedwyn Scott has undertaken a leave of absence to focus on receiving help for his mental health. We're all with you, Ceds

www.facebook.com

Naturally wishing him the very best for his recovery.

Pleased this has been made public and very happy to read that once in a position to do so he intends to open up and help others

Best of luck to the lad and fantastic he has felt he can open about it to both his employers and allow them to inform the supporters who in turn I am sure will back him and hopefully encourage any supporters struggling to seek help if needed in their own right.

 

[Si Robin]

The lad on the forum probably still thinks so, got to admire his optimism!

Losing to them twice both times when dreadful was pretty much what did us, although giving 13 points out of 18 to our fellow relegation sides didn't help either.

How Burton stayed up is beyond me, they even let Ryan Loft score a winner past them! They've had some big investment and got excited about beating us in a friendly (after we'd had a double training session in the morning ) and don't think they've won yet have they?

Think them three and Crawley who have had their promotion side and staff taken apart will do. Its a difficult level that but those three can't really complain when they've been struggling for the past 2-3 seasons mostly.

It was such an avoidable relegation and needless from us.

They stayed up because we fell apart at the end. I mean even we beat them in the run-in, but as soon as we came up against a team that could kick a ball straight we were in trouble.

That game at Stevenage on the last day of the season was horrific because when we equalised, it seemed like it was going to be our day. Burton were being humiliated at already relegated Fleetwood, and we just needed to find a winner against a Stevenage team who really didn't give two shits. That we only had one real chance after that (and we equalised very early in the second half) and conceded an injury time winner just goes to show how inept we were, and why I refuse to see Darrell Clarke as the Messiah a lot of our fanbase still do.

 

[valefan16]

They stayed up because we fell apart at the end. I mean even we beat them in the run-in, but as soon as we came up against a team that could kick a ball straight we were in trouble.

That game at Stevenage on the last day of the season was horrific because when we equalised, it seemed like it was going to be our day. Burton were being humiliated at already relegated Fleetwood, and we just needed to find a winner against a Stevenage team who really didn't give two shits. That we only had one real chance after that (and we equalised very early in the second half) and conceded an injury time winner just goes to show how inept we were, and why I refuse to see Darrell Clarke as the Messiah a lot of our fanbase still do.

DC is a tricky one, you would have been down at Xmas the way it was going when he came in so surely did very well to get you in contention, just a shame for him he couldn't pull it off.

Obviously we judge him differently from his time at Vale Park and what he achieved with us.

 

[Grimsby Road]

Yeah I think there are a handful of clubs at league 2 who could compete financially at league 1 I guess beyond that it would be down to getting everything right ; Exeter is a great model it seems ; Lincoln very well run but still losing 2-3 million a season which is probably a small amount comparedto most but hardly sustainable .

I would say for us (Town) who are somewhat probably in between being a big club in league 1 or a small club in league 2 the ideal is getting top 7 a few years isn't it and then going up eventually rather than just going up and getting pumped all the time ; i bet it gets hard work for those long term clubs in there with low resource getting pumped most weeks ; I mean we have been there in this league and that /isn't wasn't fun .

 

[Si Robin]

DC is a tricky one, you would have been down at Xmas the way it was going when he came in so surely did very well to get you in contention, just a shame for him he couldn't pull it off.

Obviously we judge him differently from his time at Vale Park and what he achieved with us.

Oh he did brilliantly to start with - though it's been pointed out in the last week or so how much our form dipped when Adam Murray went to Eastbourne in January. Also worth noting how many players mentioned Murray when interviewed before and after games.

Clarke's time at Cheltenham seemed to be a great opportunity for him. Our chairman was interviewed this week and basically hinted that he knew he'd be off almost from when we appointed him. It's like Clarke used us to show suitors that he was back in the market - a no lose role as well. Stay up and he's "achieved the impossible", relegated, well that was to be expected wasn't it.

I think he's a decent bloke, when I spoke with him he convinced me of his abilities - but I can't abide those who won't accept that he got quite a bit wrong in his time at the club.

 

[valefan16]

Oh he did brilliantly to start with - though it's been pointed out in the last week or so how much our form dipped when Adam Murray went to Eastbourne in January. Also worth noting how many players mentioned Murray when interviewed before and after games.

Clarke's time at Cheltenham seemed to be a great opportunity for him. Our chairman was interviewed this week and basically hinted that he knew he'd be off almost from when we appointed him. It's like Clarke used us to show suitors that he was back in the market - a no lose role as well. Stay up and he's "achieved the impossible", relegated, well that was to be expected wasn't it.

I think he's a decent bloke, when I spoke with him he convinced me of his abilities - but I can't abide those who won't accept that he got quite a bit wrong in his time at the club.

Interesting... we had Adam Murray for a short spell when DC had to take bereavement leave to help out Crosby and went on a run of 8 wins and a draw in 9 which propelled us into the top 3 so does seem to be a positive influence. Then he went off to Besiktas a few weeks after!

He seems to be struggling at Barnsley a bit at the moment.

 

[Si Robin]

I know a Barnsley fan and he doesn't know how to take to him. I haven't followed them at all, but I do wonder how long it is before he starts criticising things in the background.

We've started talking about possible Flynn replacements on our podcast recently - Murray is a standout. He saved Eastbourne from relegation last season and now has them near the top of the league.

 

[spireite]

Notts County Football Club

With the club’s full support, Cedwyn Scott has undertaken a leave of absence to focus on receiving help for his mental health. We're all with you, Ceds

www.facebook.com

Naturally wishing him the very best for his recovery.

Pleased this has been made public and very happy to read that once in a position to do so he intends to open up and help others

An incredibly brave thing to do to acknowledge something like that and seek help. Hope he gets sorted.

 

[jacobncfc]

Ceds is a proper honest lad who’s had to graft to make it to the pro game, really hope he can find the help he needs and get a proper shot at league football with us at some point.

Listening to Maynard, it sounds like he really struggled with getting a serious knee injury so soon after the high of scoring the winning penalty at Wembley, and all the time training alone and doing rehab etc. It’s something that must happen more than we realise, but it’s a great sign that a club and player can be so open about it now.