Liverpool v Bournemouth

[SALTIRE]

6 out of 6, the big man getting a goal though should've got another. The performance wasn't great and they'll have to be better than that for Arsenal next!

 

[The Iron]

Not the best of games but it's two wins out of two for Liverpool and no goals conceded. Only Arsenal away next.

 

[JimJams]

They need more goal threat though. Wilson did the business at Championship level last year but it remains to be seen if he can step up in the Prem. I have my doubts. They play decent football and a good tempo so there's positivity there. They've been competitive in both matches which is a good sign even if the points aren't coming. It's when you start getting rolled over that worry should kick in. Or y'know when you're mathematically down.

 

[johnnytodd]

Another mediocre performance, but essentially another 3 points. And getting maximum points from the first two games was essential with the fixture list from beyond hell we have coming up. I'll be happy with a point next week against Arsenal then we have another must win against West Ham the following weekend. If we can come out of the United game at Old Trafford with 10-11 points it will be a decent start given that we'd have played both Arsenal and United away. Good performance from Bournemouth, who were unfortunate to have their goal disallowed and go 1-0 down. They will stay up with more performances like that though.

I'm hoping the team look a little more solid next week, with all the changes we're still too disjointed and Arsenal will take full advantage of that.

what has this pile of shit got to do with todays game?

 

[johnnytodd]

Not the best of games but it's two wins out of two for Liverpool and no goals conceded. Only Arsenal away next.

Liverpool will beat Arsenal, the leagues theirs already

 

[Pagnell]

what has this pile of shit got to do with todays game?

Oh do be quiet you odious little c**t.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Well, pretty gutted. Elphick's goal is scored by John Terry every other week. And the offside was so blatant.

Trouble was, after that, we let it affect us too much. Retreated right into our shell and lost all the confidence we'd built up.

Gradel potentially lucky not to give a penalty away.

Second half we had to push and whilst we caused a few openings Liverpool were tough to break down defending a lead. Thought we'd scored when Ritchie hit he post. But we also were a touch lucky on several Liverpool break aways.

Thought we gave the ball away cheaply at times trying to play so fast. A little more composure required, but then our midfield is weakened without Arter who makes a difference in there.

Scummer chants towards our ex players (ignoring Surman and Boruc) from the Bournemouth end.

Cute.

Jesus, have a sense of humour man, have you never attended a football match? We love Boruc btw.

On that note, support was awesome tonight.

 

[HarvSFC]

Where's Kermorgant? I reckon Wilson could do well playing off him in the Premier League.

 

[GodsGift]

Oh do be quiet you odious little c***.

Tut tut, you're not admin anymore, you can't talk like that. Smat got banned for less.

 

[Pagnell]

Tut tut, you're not admin anymore, you can't talk like that.

Don't worry, I'll be giving myself a thorough talking to later.

 

[mistermagic]

Oh do be quiet you odious little c***.

So that's why you're not red anymore. Feels good I bet.

 

[PDS]

So you often hear from other 'small club' fans about the decisions that go against them... But remain sceptical until something like that happens. Ludicrous to disallow Elphick's goal, and then just plain farcical to let Benteke's stand.

I was angry at half time at being let down by officials rather than our performance, but I mellowed with the way we played, a lot of positives to come out if that, just lack that killer final ball or someone to properly attack Ritchie's crosses

 

[herbert hellraiser]

Give Rodgers a furry purple glove alright , alright

 

[Jamie_SFC]

Jesus, have a sense of humour man, have you never attended a football match? We love Boruc btw.

On that note, support was awesome tonight.

So did we...

We should probably think of a name for you lot, we won't be playing the shite down the road anytime soon.

 

[Spear]

wow. just wow.

when you think you have seen it all, they just go that one step further, its amazing they ever don't win anything, like 14 men every week

 

[HarvSFC]

Bompey

 

[SALTIRE]

wow. just wow.

when you think you have seen it all, they just go that one step further, its amazing they ever don't win anything, like 14 men every week

3 Liverpool
4 Man Utd

lol

 

[G-Dragon]

6 out of 6! Can't really complain.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Where's Kermorgant? I reckon Wilson could do well playing off him in the Premier League.

Yann isn't up to speed yet judging by his 20mins last week.He's always been a player relying on his superior technique at championship level, rater than physicality and he's the wrong side of 30 odd now. So unsure how he'll cope up here, only one way to find out I guess.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

How good is Coutinho by the way, Liverpool's one spark who you fear when he gets the ball. They'd look so one dimensional without him, but he can do anything and pops up anywhere.

Next one to be sold next summer?

 

[SALTIRE]

How good is Coutinho by the way, Liverpool's one spark who you fear when he gets the ball. They'd look so one dimensional without him, but he can do anything and pops up anywhere.

Next one to be sold next summer?

Don't even joke about that, as it'll probably be true!

 

[johnnytodd]

Bournemouth looked good but Liverpool got the 3pts and Liverpool Football Club were founded in March 1892 by John Houlding, who owned the Anfield Road stadium. Everton FC were the occupants at Anfield before this date but following a disagreement with Houlding they promptly moved across Stanley Park to a new home – Goodison Park.

Houlding was left with an empty stadium and so formed Liverpool Football Club. He appointed John McKenna, an Irishman with many links in Scottish football, McKenna used his links to form a ‘squad’ of 13 players, of which 9 were Scottish.

In their first season the club won the second division championship – without losing a game! The first of 18 first division championships arrived at Anfield in season 1900-01, now under the management of Tom Watson, the team finished two points ahead of Sunderland. Five years before that Liverpool recorded their highest ever League win when they beat Rotherham United 10-1 in the second division (Feb 18th 1896).

The Reds won their second league title in 1906, and reached their first FA Cup Final in 1914. The match was played at the old Crystal Palace ground and Liverpool lost 1-0 to Burnely, with ex-Evertonian Burt Freeman scoring the only goal.

In 1922 the third league title was secured and the following year the fourth was won – finishing 6 points clear. The summer of 1928 saw a new roof on the famous Kop stand at Anfield.

In 1947 another league title was won, losing just one match all season. In search of the double The Reds reached the semi-final of the FA Cup, but lost after a replay to Burnley.

1955 saw Liverpool beat Everton 4-0 in an FA Cup tie, but the Jon Welsh could not get the club out of division two and so was replaced by Phil Taylor the following year.

Taylor had little success and was replaced by Bill Shankly in 1959. Shankly arrived from Huddersfield and went on to guide The Reds to numerous championships and cup wins.

Shankly lead the club to their first FA Cup final at their third attempt in 1965, beating Leeds United in the final. That win came was sandwiched by two more championships. European success was on the horizon and despite ending as runners-up in the European Cup Winners Cup in 1966 the bread and butter of the league title was won.

1973 was a significant year for Liverpool FC, under the leadership of Bill Shankly they won their first European honour – the UEFA Cup – and their eighth league title! Just a year later Shankly made the decision to leave the club by mutual consent – much to the shock of all the Reds adoring fans.

Bob Paisley was promoted from the ‘bootroom’, a trend which would continue at the club for decades to come. Any doubts that Paisley was not the right man for the job were dispelled in 1976, when Paisley’s team won the league title and UEFA Cup in the same season. The next season saw the league title (again!), the European Cup and the European Super Cup all arrive at Anfield. The trophies kept coming with another European Cup in 78 and league titles in 79, 80, 82 and 83. These were won with league cups in 81, 82 and 83 and a third European Cup in 81. These successes made Bob Paisley the most successful British football manager ever.

Paisley retired at the of the 1982-83 season and made way for Joe Fagan to take charge. Fagan’s team lifted the league title, league cup and the European Cup in his first season in charge – some start to a managerial career!

Kenny Dalglish was appointed in 1985 following Fagan’s retirement and won the clubs’ first ever double of league title and FA Cup in 1986. Two more league championships followed in 88 and 90 along with another FA Cup win in 89.

April 15th 1989 is a date that will live long in the memory of Reds fans through out the World. Liverpool were playing Nottingham Forest in an FA Cup semi final at Sheffield’s Hillsborough Stadium. 96 Liverpool fans were tragically killed following inadequate policing and stewarding in the Leppings Lane End.

Dalglish left the club in 1991 and Graeme Souness took the helm. His first season saw The Reds lifted the FA Cup, beating Sunderland 2-0. But Souness’ reign at the club was not to be a successful one and after several failed attempts to win the league and many poor finishes, he made way for Roy Evans in 1994.

1994 also saw the last ever game in front of the Kop stand. Norwich City were the visitors as 44,339 fans packed in to Anfield. Many of them had turned out to see legends such as Paisley and Dalglish. The date of April 30th 1994 will go down in Liverpool history – but not for the result. Norwich won 1-0 courtesy of a Jeremy Goss strike at the Kop End.

Evans’ reign started in familiar fashion to Souness’ with a League Cup win in 1995. But once again the club failed to live up to expectations with miserable European campaigns and continued league inconsistencies.

In the summer of 1998 Gerard Houllier was appointed joint manager with Roy Evans. But that joint partnership was always destined to end in failure and after four months together Roy Evans left the club.

Houllier began to build a squad of players ready to challenge at the top. Success was not immediate but after two seasons in sole charge three trophies arrived together. League Cup success over Birmingham was the clubs first trophy for 6 years and this was soon followed by FA Cup and UEFA Cup joy two months later. A memorable UEFA Cup Final saw Houllier’s team beat Spanish underdogs 5-4 after extra time.

In the summer of 1998 Gerard Houllier was appointed joint manager with Roy Evans. But that joint partnership was always destined to end in failure and after four months together Roy Evans left the club. Roy a great servant to the club was never a man to put himself before the club whom he supported as a boy and worked himself up from fringe player to first team manger. He later claimed in one of his last interviews that he didn’t want to be a “Ghost on the Wall” which Is infact what his Autobiography title for his book which was published in 2004.

Houllier now sole manager had a big task on his hands to restore confidence and discipline in his players. He inherited a team who were used to Roy Evans’s “one of the boys” attitude towards management but slowly but surely he began to build a squad of players that Liverpool once again could be proud of. Players such as Paul Ince and later Robbie Fowler were shown the door as they were never going to be part of Houlliers new counter attacking and disciplined squad. In came players such as Gary McAllister, Milan Baros, Sami Hyypia, Stephane Henchoz, John Arne Riise, Emile Heskey and the inclusion of up and coming starlet Stephan Gerrard to name some.

Immediately things began to look a whole lot brighter and after two seasons of laying down the foundations to a team in his mold his team won three trophies in one season. The League Cup success over Birmingham was the clubs first trophy for 6 years and this was soon followed by FA Cup and UEFA Cup joy two months later. A memorable UEFA Cup Final saw Houlliers team beat Spanish underdogs Alaves 5-4 in a thrilling extra time encounter.

Success was fleeting though as growing unrest at Liverpool’s sudden return to mediocrity and little progress forced supporters to call for his resignation which 2 seasons earlier would have seemed inconceivable. Liverpool were now perceived as chronic underperformers and the league table showed it. Expensive signings such as El-Hadji Diouf and Emile Heskey to name a couple were slated as flops and Houllier later went on record as saying signing Diouf was a huge mistake.

After such hope and prosperity in his first few seasons Houllier was politely shown the door. During a pre-season full of speculation Liverpool made the massive coup in signing promising young manager Rafael Benitez from Valencia. “Rafa” as he is known faced an equally big task in bringing together a squad littered with distinctly average players from the Houllier era.

Purchases such as Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso and Fernando Morientes improved the outlook but the loss of Michael Owen to Real Madrid marred Benitez’s opening months.

Rafa Benitez’s first season in charge saw the Reds land their first European Cup for 21 years, defeating AC Milan against the odds in the greatest European Final ever witnessed.

Last updated, May 2005 by Paul Stewart, initial article by Max Munton 1997.

 

[Stevencc]

6 out of 6! Can't really complain.

When United had 6 out of 6 without performing well, like you, you literally cried.

This hypocrisy has been noted.

 

[Pagnell]

How good is Coutinho by the way, Liverpool's one spark who you fear when he gets the ball. They'd look so one dimensional without him, but he can do anything and pops up anywhere.

Next one to be sold next summer?

Joking aside this is more than possible unless we get top 4, which is unlikely. The big money boys (both in the Premiership and on the continent) will have noted how well he has played in the last 6-9 months.

The one consolation is that he only penned a new long term contract in February so any move will be for mega money or it won't happen. And we have shown with both Suarez and Sterling (a combined total of £120m+ for the pair) that we won't take any shit when it comes to selling players we want to keep. Interested teams either pay our valuation or fuck off.

 

[JimJams]

wow. just wow.

when you think you have seen it all, they just go that one step further, its amazing they ever don't win anything, like 14 men every week

Yeah but theres something a bit more honest in bribing refs than paying opposition players to put the ball in the net for you.

 

[AdrianDurham]

Hate to say it, but a very solid performance by Liverpool. Being able to grind out results is what champions are made of. Stoke and Bournemouth were exactly those kind of games. Two horse race between Liverpool and City for me.

 

[Bilo]

Was so tired last night that I went to bed the second the final whistle was blown, but lots of interesting opinions in here.

First of all, before I go on the quite negative rant I'm about to shove down your throats, three points is three points, always. Only "odious little c***", as a former admin would word it, spend too much time worrying when the points are coming in. But there are a few things to consider from last night, certainly.

But, the positive first: the back four. They receive more protection than ever and to no one's surprise, they're looking significantly better. Lovren is one who's much more comfortable being protected rather than pushing up, and it shows as his performances have taken a turn for the better even though I'd rather have Sakho in there. Also Clyne is really doing wonders for Skrtel just by his defensive presence. He was very impressive last night, and at one point during those first 20 minutes when Bournemouth were pushing up I think he broke up four attacks in a row. Johnson didn't break up four attacks in total all of last season. So there's that, and that's certainly a good thing to see going into "the fixture list from hell" as the same former admin worded it.

Then there's everything else. 4-2-3-1 just doesn't work for us, and it hasn't since Alonso fucked off to Real Madrid all those years ago. I'll avoid the captain hindsight urge here and admit that I thought playing Lallana behind Benteke rather than Coutinho was a good idea, but it just didn't work out at all. We just can't seem to get the basics right when it comes to 4-2-3-1. It's usually a system relying on controlling the middle and getting the number 10 to turn with the ball in various ways, so it's quite telling that almost all of our attacks are down the flanks (especially the right flank).

For a system so heavily reliant on the combinations of the nr 9 and the nr 10, it's quite amazing that we're going for 4-2-3-1 when we do happen to have a good nr 9 (Benteke), and a very good nr 10 (Coutinho), just that they don't work especially well together. Compare that to the plausible combinations of a 4-4-2 diamond and it makes infintely more sense, even though we'd give up a few crosses to Benteke.

Aside from that, I agree with most of what's been said in the thread already. Bournemouth deserved a point, but I thought that was more down to us than them. I fear for them this season to be honest, but I've been wrong before, believe it or not.

 

[Red]

Bournemouth looked good but Liverpool got the 3pts and Liverpool Football Club were founded in March 1892 by John Houlding, who owned the Anfield Road stadium. Everton FC were the occupants at Anfield before this date but following a disagreement with Houlding they promptly moved across Stanley Park to a new home – Goodison Park.

Houlding was left with an empty stadium and so formed Liverpool Football Club. He appointed John McKenna, an Irishman with many links in Scottish football, McKenna used his links to form a ‘squad’ of 13 players, of which 9 were Scottish.

In their first season the club won the second division championship – without losing a game! The first of 18 first division championships arrived at Anfield in season 1900-01, now under the management of Tom Watson, the team finished two points ahead of Sunderland. Five years before that Liverpool recorded their highest ever League win when they beat Rotherham United 10-1 in the second division (Feb 18th 1896).

The Reds won their second league title in 1906, and reached their first FA Cup Final in 1914. The match was played at the old Crystal Palace ground and Liverpool lost 1-0 to Burnely, with ex-Evertonian Burt Freeman scoring the only goal.

In 1922 the third league title was secured and the following year the fourth was won – finishing 6 points clear. The summer of 1928 saw a new roof on the famous Kop stand at Anfield.

In 1947 another league title was won, losing just one match all season. In search of the double The Reds reached the semi-final of the FA Cup, but lost after a replay to Burnley.

1955 saw Liverpool beat Everton 4-0 in an FA Cup tie, but the Jon Welsh could not get the club out of division two and so was replaced by Phil Taylor the following year.

Taylor had little success and was replaced by Bill Shankly in 1959. Shankly arrived from Huddersfield and went on to guide The Reds to numerous championships and cup wins.

Shankly lead the club to their first FA Cup final at their third attempt in 1965, beating Leeds United in the final. That win came was sandwiched by two more championships. European success was on the horizon and despite ending as runners-up in the European Cup Winners Cup in 1966 the bread and butter of the league title was won.

1973 was a significant year for Liverpool FC, under the leadership of Bill Shankly they won their first European honour – the UEFA Cup – and their eighth league title! Just a year later Shankly made the decision to leave the club by mutual consent – much to the shock of all the Reds adoring fans.

Bob Paisley was promoted from the ‘bootroom’, a trend which would continue at the club for decades to come. Any doubts that Paisley was not the right man for the job were dispelled in 1976, when Paisley’s team won the league title and UEFA Cup in the same season. The next season saw the league title (again!), the European Cup and the European Super Cup all arrive at Anfield. The trophies kept coming with another European Cup in 78 and league titles in 79, 80, 82 and 83. These were won with league cups in 81, 82 and 83 and a third European Cup in 81. These successes made Bob Paisley the most successful British football manager ever.

Paisley retired at the of the 1982-83 season and made way for Joe Fagan to take charge. Fagan’s team lifted the league title, league cup and the European Cup in his first season in charge – some start to a managerial career!

Kenny Dalglish was appointed in 1985 following Fagan’s retirement and won the clubs’ first ever double of league title and FA Cup in 1986. Two more league championships followed in 88 and 90 along with another FA Cup win in 89.

April 15th 1989 is a date that will live long in the memory of Reds fans through out the World. Liverpool were playing Nottingham Forest in an FA Cup semi final at Sheffield’s Hillsborough Stadium. 96 Liverpool fans were tragically killed following inadequate policing and stewarding in the Leppings Lane End.

Dalglish left the club in 1991 and Graeme Souness took the helm. His first season saw The Reds lifted the FA Cup, beating Sunderland 2-0. But Souness’ reign at the club was not to be a successful one and after several failed attempts to win the league and many poor finishes, he made way for Roy Evans in 1994.

1994 also saw the last ever game in front of the Kop stand. Norwich City were the visitors as 44,339 fans packed in to Anfield. Many of them had turned out to see legends such as Paisley and Dalglish. The date of April 30th 1994 will go down in Liverpool history – but not for the result. Norwich won 1-0 courtesy of a Jeremy Goss strike at the Kop End.

Evans’ reign started in familiar fashion to Souness’ with a League Cup win in 1995. But once again the club failed to live up to expectations with miserable European campaigns and continued league inconsistencies.

In the summer of 1998 Gerard Houllier was appointed joint manager with Roy Evans. But that joint partnership was always destined to end in failure and after four months together Roy Evans left the club.

Houllier began to build a squad of players ready to challenge at the top. Success was not immediate but after two seasons in sole charge three trophies arrived together. League Cup success over Birmingham was the clubs first trophy for 6 years and this was soon followed by FA Cup and UEFA Cup joy two months later. A memorable UEFA Cup Final saw Houllier’s team beat Spanish underdogs 5-4 after extra time.

In the summer of 1998 Gerard Houllier was appointed joint manager with Roy Evans. But that joint partnership was always destined to end in failure and after four months together Roy Evans left the club. Roy a great servant to the club was never a man to put himself before the club whom he supported as a boy and worked himself up from fringe player to first team manger. He later claimed in one of his last interviews that he didn’t want to be a “Ghost on the Wall” which Is infact what his Autobiography title for his book which was published in 2004.

Houllier now sole manager had a big task on his hands to restore confidence and discipline in his players. He inherited a team who were used to Roy Evans’s “one of the boys” attitude towards management but slowly but surely he began to build a squad of players that Liverpool once again could be proud of. Players such as Paul Ince and later Robbie Fowler were shown the door as they were never going to be part of Houlliers new counter attacking and disciplined squad. In came players such as Gary McAllister, Milan Baros, Sami Hyypia, Stephane Henchoz, John Arne Riise, Emile Heskey and the inclusion of up and coming starlet Stephan Gerrard to name some.

Immediately things began to look a whole lot brighter and after two seasons of laying down the foundations to a team in his mold his team won three trophies in one season. The League Cup success over Birmingham was the clubs first trophy for 6 years and this was soon followed by FA Cup and UEFA Cup joy two months later. A memorable UEFA Cup Final saw Houlliers team beat Spanish underdogs Alaves 5-4 in a thrilling extra time encounter.

Success was fleeting though as growing unrest at Liverpool’s sudden return to mediocrity and little progress forced supporters to call for his resignation which 2 seasons earlier would have seemed inconceivable. Liverpool were now perceived as chronic underperformers and the league table showed it. Expensive signings such as El-Hadji Diouf and Emile Heskey to name a couple were slated as flops and Houllier later went on record as saying signing Diouf was a huge mistake.

After such hope and prosperity in his first few seasons Houllier was politely shown the door. During a pre-season full of speculation Liverpool made the massive coup in signing promising young manager Rafael Benitez from Valencia. “Rafa” as he is known faced an equally big task in bringing together a squad littered with distinctly average players from the Houllier era.

Purchases such as Luis Garcia, Xabi Alonso and Fernando Morientes improved the outlook but the loss of Michael Owen to Real Madrid marred Benitez’s opening months.

Rafa Benitez’s first season in charge saw the Reds land their first European Cup for 21 years, defeating AC Milan against the odds in the greatest European Final ever witnessed.

Last updated, May 2005 by Paul Stewart, initial article by Max Munton 1997.

What's it like having a personality disorder?

 

[allouso]

I know it's the norm to say the underdog was screwed by the refs but surely their goal was a foul? He just climbed all over him! Our goal shouldn't have stood though, Coutinho was clearly interfering with play.

Happy with the points on the board but we really need to improve. Can't see us getting anything at Arsenal next week.

 

[JimJams]

The disallowed goal is open for debate you'll see that kind of thing go both ways in a season, it's open to interpretation. The offside goal though is just shite officiating.