Liverpool v West Brom

[johnnytodd]

Arsenal got one point from West Brom and Norwich and they still top the table.
You've got one point from West Ham and Bournemouth and are still in the CL spots.
Like us, Tottenham have one point from their last two games, against West Brom and Newcastle.
Everton have three draws from their last three against Bournemouth, Palace and Norwich.

Sure you can try and banterize (I know that's not a word, but it should be) our last two games, but this is just how the league is.

out of interest who do you support in Finland?

 

[G-Dragon]

 

[Art Morte]

I agree with you that the league is highly unpredictable at the moment - almost anyone can beat anyone.

But you've gotta take the banterisation or we don't have any fun!

All right, fine, then. My sources are telling me that Van Gaal has realiSed that letting both RVP and Chicarito go was indeed a mistake and he's asked Fergie to use his good ties with Mourinho to sign Falcao on loan in January with an obligation to buy, so you're all sorted for the next couple of years.

 

[Stevencc]

All right, fine, then. My sources are telling me that Van Gaal has realiSed that letting both RVP and Chicarito go was indeed a mistake and he's asked Fergie to use his good ties with Mourinho to sign Falcao on loan in January with an obligation to buy, so you're all sorted for the next couple of years.

It's not banterisation if it's all true

 

[sl1k]

All right, fine, then. My sources are telling me that Van Gaal has realiSed that letting both RVP and Chicarito go was indeed a mistake and he's asked Fergie to use his good ties with Mourinho to sign Falcao on loan in January with an obligation to buy, so you're all sorted for the next couple of years.

It's not banterisation if it's all true

 

[Art Morte]

out of interest who do you support in Finland?

You sure don't want to let the fact go that I'm a foreign fan, do you? : )

My local team plays in the 2nd regional division in Eastern Finland. My mate from high school is the manager. There's no proper training possibilities in winter. Winter is about 5 months long (used to be 6 but damn that global warming). I went to two games this season. The football reminded me quite a lot about our elementary school games, with most of the players crowding around the ball until it got kicked long (I don't know, maybe we're just retarded, höhöhöhö). What I'm trying to say that it's pretty much different worlds following & supporting a club that plays at a "proper" level and going to a local game here just because the girl I'm dating has her kid brother as the 2nd-choice keeper.

 

[Nilsson]

Good to see Liverpool are still shit.

Those post match celebrations

 

[Pagnell]

Arsenal got one point from West Brom and Norwich and they still top the table.
You've got one point from West Ham and Bournemouth and are still in the CL spots.
Like us, Tottenham have one point from their last two games, against West Brom and Newcastle.
Everton have three draws from their last three against Bournemouth, Palace and Norwich.

Sure you can try and banterize (I know that's not a word, but it should be) our last two games, but this is just how the league is.

This post is full of win. Well, draws and losses to be precise but you see my point.

 

[SALTIRE]

here fishy fishy

c***!

 

[Spear]

Congratulations to the Liverpool fans for all predicting all three outcomes and getting it right

 

[SALTIRE]

Congratulations to the Liverpool fans for all predicting all three outcomes and getting it right

According to you, you were going to be unstoppable this year under LVG, Mike Smalling and Depay; quadruple wasn't it? Hows that turning out mate?

 

[Super_horns]

Those post match celebrations

That happens all the time in Germany - helps the fans/players relationship I guess.

So long as the team win or draw!

Must be interesting after a defeat..

 

[Blitzballer]

Not sure about that shit at the end. Anyone would think they'd won the Prem League

 

[johnnytodd]

You sure don't want to let the fact go that I'm a foreign fan, do you? : )

My local team plays in the 2nd regional division in Eastern Finland. My mate from high school is the manager. There's no proper training possibilities in winter. Winter is about 5 months long (used to be 6 but damn that global warming). I went to two games this season. The football reminded me quite a lot about our elementary school games, with most of the players crowding around the ball until it got kicked long (I don't know, maybe we're just retarded, höhöhöhö). What I'm trying to say that it's pretty much different worlds following & supporting a club that plays at a "proper" level and going to a local game here just because the girl I'm dating has her kid brother as the 2nd-choice keeper.

Not so different really, it's that bad here you can't get a train from Milton Keynes to Liverpool.......EVER.

 

[Gashead]

Klopp whinging about styles of play bothered me a bit. Not the first and not the last to do so. If your style of play is so superior, why haven't you won the game? No uniform way to win football games. Partially why the small teams struggle so much in Spain etc.

But a good fighting point for 'Pool I think after last week, as others have said the results in the Prem are crazy.

 

[Stevencc]

I don't see much wrong with Klopp ordering his players to form a line and go over to the fans at the end of the game. The result was poor but it's clear what he was trying to do.

When he was announced as Liverpool manager he mentioned, on a number of occasions, how important the Anfield atmosphere was and how he was looking forward to soaking it in. Since actually experiencing it for himself he's complained about fans leaving early, feeling alone etc - he's also gesticulated to the home fans to up their volume level and so have a number of Liverpool players on set pieces.

He is clearly underwhelmed upon seeing the reality of the current home atmosphere at Liverpool (this applies to most of the Premier League home crowds by the way, at least the bigger sides - before Saltire and G-Dragon pipe up!). He had an amazing crowd and atmosphere behind him at Dortmund, knows the benefit of making your home ground an intimidating place to visit, and he is obviously trying to instill that at his current club.

 

[G-Dragon]

I don't see much wrong with Klopp ordering his players to form a line and go over to the fans at the end of the game. The result was poor but it's clear what he was trying to do.

When he was announced as Liverpool manager he mentioned, on a number of occasions, how important the Anfield atmosphere was and how he was looking forward to soaking it in. Since actually experiencing it for himself he's complained about fans leaving early, feeling alone etc - he's also gesticulated to the home fans to up their volume level and so have a number of Liverpool players on set pieces.

He is clearly underwhelmed upon seeing the reality of the current home atmosphere at Liverpool (this applies to most of the Premier League home crowds by the way, at least the bigger sides - before Saltire and G-Dragon pipe up!). He had an amazing crowd and atmosphere behind him at Dortmund, knows the benefit of making your home ground an intimidating place to visit, and he is obviously trying to instill that at his current club.

Think you summed it up perfectly. Saw couple of fans leave before the equalizing goal went in, serves those c*** right.

 

[kopite]

Not surprised with the result but shocked we nicked a point out of it.

I don't see the problem with Klopp ordering the lads to come down to us at the whistle. Anfield not been as rocking as usual and everything about the match made it look like another shite home result. I took that as Klopp showing his appreciation for our support.

He's left with a squad that isn't his and I don't think he's had a week between games since he arrived. It looks like we're always affected after a Europa match like other British teams...we just need to get over it!

I'd like to see Bogdan get a few games, I don't wanna give Mignolet stick but I'm always gonna worry with him in set pieces. As much as people want to see us get a striker in, defence really worries me. I think I'm one of a free that doesn't rate any of our centre backs. Sakho come on better this season but I wouldn't say he's top class yet. I get a bit of stick at times over not rating Skrtel. But last few years we concede around 50 goals a season and he's in the heart of that defence. He doesn't lead or organise and I think Mignolet errors lets him get away with criticism. Desperately need to sort out our defence and goalkeeper. Going forward I think we got enough players for Klopp to get something going consistently.

There will be more matches like this in the season but Klopp's Liverpool proven we can win big away games and nick points at the death. Just need to get the home form sorted.

 

[johnnytodd]

Think you summed it up perfectly. Saw couple of fans leave before the equalizing goal went in, serves those c*** right.

at least they were there though eh

 

[johnnytodd]

Great at work this morning with the reds everything gets a Klopp celebrational arm raising.

"pass us that pen Tom " weheyyyyyyyyyyyy
" here's your tea Phil" weheyyyyyyyyyyyyy
"Going for shit" weheyyyyyyyyyyyyy

 

[AFCB_Mark]

"Sent you an email Boss" leaps over desk and jumps around the office like a bellend for 2 minutes

 

[Pagnell]

Shame, on TFF you could show a table of who had posted the most in a particular thread but I can't find it on this forum. I suspect I know who would top the list in this one.

 

[smat]

Tbh the celebrations did look a bit silly, and whether Klopp did it in Germany or not I'm sure he won't do it again for a disappointing home draw. Makes Liverpool look quite smalltime.

 

[Pagnell]

It did look a bit silly and I'd rather they hadn't given that it was a draw at home against a team that barely qualifies as middable. If we'd beaten City, Chelsea or Arsenal 5-0 I'd perhaps understand it.

 

[PDS]

In his first spell with us, Eddie Howe (A far better manager than Klopp, we can all agree) used to do the post-match huddle on the pitch, win, lose or draw. It did foster great unity between players, staff and fans and meant everyone stuck around to clap them off.

I can see what he's doing but maybe start it after a good win rather than a laboured draw. It does mean nobody is talking about his teams woeful defending though...

 

[johnnytodd]

In his first spell with us, Eddie Howe (A far better manager than Klopp, we can all agree) used to do the post-match huddle on the pitch, win, lose or draw. It did foster great unity between players, staff and fans and meant everyone stuck around to clap them off.

I can see what he's doing but maybe start it after a good win rather than a laboured draw. It does mean nobody is talking about his teams woeful defending though...

yep the cracks are widening for Klopps flopps..........but hey he's a good guy though

 

[allouso]

I don't see much wrong with Klopp ordering his players to form a line and go over to the fans at the end of the game. The result was poor but it's clear what he was trying to do.

When he was announced as Liverpool manager he mentioned, on a number of occasions, how important the Anfield atmosphere was and how he was looking forward to soaking it in. Since actually experiencing it for himself he's complained about fans leaving early, feeling alone etc - he's also gesticulated to the home fans to up their volume level and so have a number of Liverpool players on set pieces.

He is clearly underwhelmed upon seeing the reality of the current home atmosphere at Liverpool (this applies to most of the Premier League home crowds by the way, at least the bigger sides - before Saltire and G-Dragon pipe up!). He had an amazing crowd and atmosphere behind him at Dortmund, knows the benefit of making your home ground an intimidating place to visit, and he is obviously trying to instill that at his current club.

This, perfectly written.

This is a very common thing in Germany actually and grounds around Europe. Heck they even do it in Lebanon. It wasn't a celebration, but more of a thank you to the fans. It's sad that some people were laughing about it, but to be fair it's not really common around England so i'd understand it.

I think Klopp is surprised of how shit our fans are. Anfield still has an image of being this intimidating place but it hasn't been the case for years; I remember how the Spanish media was all over the "mythical" Anfield before the game against Real last season, the reaction of the fans during the game was embarrassing. Klopp looks bewildered really, and it's very obvious in his behavior so far that he expects much better from the fans. The last 2 minutes of yesterday is how it should be when Liverpool go behind: the team bombarding the opposition with the fans making it hell for them. This hasn't happened in years since we were good in Europe under Rafa, instead we have to contend with gutless players and fans that might as well be going to the opera. That's what Klopp is trying to change; creating this connection between the players and the fans, which is non existing at the moment. Will it work? Difficult to say, but at least he's trying something different.

It wasn't a celebration. The guy isn't stupid, he's won some stuff in his career against some huge team, i'm sure he realizes that a draw against West Brom isn't a big deal.

 

[johnnytodd]

This, perfectly written.

This is a very common thing in Germany actually and grounds around Europe. Heck they even do it in Lebanon. It wasn't a celebration, but more of a thank you to the fans. It's sad that some people were laughing about it, but to be fair it's not really common around England so i'd understand it.

I think Klopp is surprised of how shit our fans are. Anfield still has an image of being this intimidating place but it hasn't been the case for years; I remember how the Spanish media was all over the "mythical" Anfield before the game against Real last season, the reaction of the fans during the game was embarrassing. Klopp looks bewildered really, and it's very obvious in his behavior so far that he expects much better from the fans. The last 2 minutes of yesterday is how it should be when Liverpool go behind: the team bombarding the opposition with the fans making it hell for them. This hasn't happened in years since we were good in Europe under Rafa, instead we have to contend with gutless players and fans that might as well be going to the opera. That's what Klopp is trying to change; creating this connection between the players and the fans, which is non existing at the moment. Will it work? Difficult to say, but at least he's trying something different.

It wasn't a celebration. The guy isn't stupid, he's won some stuff in his career against some huge team, i'm sure he realizes that a draw against West Brom isn't a big deal.

probably because 90% of the Kop aren't from Liverpool

 

[allouso]

probably because 90% of the Kop aren't from Liverpool

I wouldn't know. I was there twice and both times sang my heart out and was extremely disappointed with how quiet the home support was. So maybe it's not always the foreigner's fault.

 

[thespus]

Every NHL team, win or lose, salutes the crowd after a game. Big, hard bastards playing a game with significantly more animosity - it's a brief show of respect, not a celebration.

I wouldn't know. I was there twice and both times sang my heart out and was extremely disappointed with how quiet the home support was. So maybe it's not always the foreigner's fault.

Elie, foreigners just don't understand the importance of self-aggrandizement, schadenfreude, and being dismissive of everything that's "different".

English fan culture - praise drunk folks in the stands that sing when losing by 3; lose its collective mind when an affable manager wants his players to recognize the fans after a match.