Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[GTFCfish]

I personally think the Cowley’s would be a great appointment for any team in this league.

 

[Don Tonberry]

The Cowleys have definitely got to rebuild their reputation a bit after what happened here. K-Win summed it up nicely but what I would add is that they didn't have a solution when we went on that awful run last season and when the fans turned, it was curtains for them. They came out criticising our medical staff for our injury problems but not really sure if they were the problem, or the Cowleys were.

They'd definitely give Bradford a short term boost but they're a big club at this level and I'm not sure they could handle the pressure once the honeymoon period wears off. I really hope they're successful, though. It was such a shame to see them fail at Pompey.

 

[Gi Dalor]

If you read the tweet they're basing the Robinson story on it says, he turned down the opportunity to have talks.
Quite sensible of him, because he wasn't going to get it, but I dare say he'd have been interviewed.

 

[Master D]

Do teams just never replace the manager at this level or something? Several clubs still bumbling along week after week with caretakers.

How on earth do Tranmere still not have a permanent manager?

 

[LS Bantam]

Oh no, rejected by the mighty Karl Robinson how will we cope? Not an appointment that would have gone down well I’m guessing based as much as anything on how much of a knob he comes across as. He and Paul Warne did a BBC podcast last year and it’s like he swallowed a book of cliches “fire and ice boys, fire and ice”.
Again, I’ve been told we have definitely spoken with Leam Richardson but by now I suppose we must have spoken to a few. As much as Kevin McDonald’s success is buying time in terms of recruiting, the clamour for him to stay on is getting ever greater at the same time.

 

[Conker]

Anyone else surprised by the reaction to being rejected by Karl Robinson?

 

[Indian Dan]

He’s never been popular down our way - and he’s not keen on us either.

Think he was nobbing an Oxford player’s wife

 

[Stocky]

Do teams just never replace the manager at this level or something? Several clubs still bumbling along week after week with caretakers.

How on earth do Tranmere still not have a permanent manager?

Nigel Adkins is actually a pretty good appointment on paper for a League 2 team. It kind of feels like the plan there was always to give that youth/ assistant type guy a stab at it with Adkins "advising" and then if it went tits up Adkins could just step in.

Problem they've got it is it's still not looking great there.

Gillingham are definitley in the hunt according to their chairman.

Bradford are making it up as they go along I reckon.

 

[Indian Dan]

It’s very easy to get drawn in by a successful stint as a caretaker. Different kettle of fish when it’s permanent and being responsible for signings etc.

God knows, Bradford deserve better than the previous few clowns.

 

[GFC4EVA]

So many different rumours going round, I really have no idea who we're going to appoint, the Galinsons are back in the UK to finalise the new manger expect we will have some one in by the weekend

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I hope Bradford appoint the caretaker chap.

 

[AR27]

We are definitely making it up as we go along. Sparks has got a get out of jail free card with McDonald having such a good impact because if we'd lost the last few then it'd be carnage at VP.

This way he can use the disguise of "we're taking our time" and "there's no rush because McDonald is doing so well" to hide the fact that he hasn't got a clue what he's doing.

 

[F!RTHY]

We are definitely making it up as we go along. Sparks has got a get out of jail free card with McDonald having such a good impact because if we'd lost the last few then it'd be carnage at VP.

This way he can use the disguise of "we're taking our time" and "there's no rush because McDonald is doing so well" to hide the fact that he hasn't got a clue what he's doing.

But in order to assume he has no clue what he’s doing, there must be evidence of this from previous when he comes to managerial recruitment?

Barring McCall’s last spell you can’t deny that fans weren’t happy with Gary Bowyer, Derek Adams and Mark Hughes.

 

[GTFCfish]

But in order to assume he has no clue what he’s doing, there must be evidence of this from previous when he comes to managerial recruitment?

Barring McCall’s last spell you can’t deny that fans weren’t happy with Gary Bowyer, Derek Adams and Mark Hughes.

And you couldn’t wish to meet three more happy go lucky, half glass full kind of managers than those three.

 

[AR27]

But in order to assume he has no clue what he’s doing, there must be evidence of this from previous when he comes to managerial recruitment?

Barring McCall’s last spell you can’t deny that fans weren’t happy with Gary Bowyer, Derek Adams and Mark Hughes.

McCall - one of the most ridiculous contract extensions I've ever seen. Sacked weeks later.

Trueman & Sellars - appointed as caretakers, then made interim. What's that about? Then they won a few games and despite everyone and their dog knowing the performances were unsustainable, he appointed them permanently. Shock horror the form fell off a cliff and they were sacked before the season ended.

Adams - blinded by his CV. Again, any CEO with a footballing brain would've been able to predict that his style of football, coupled with his demeanour was never going to fit here. Sacked mid season.

Hughes - blinded by his stature in the game. There's a reason he had been out of work for so long and the likes of Peterborough rejected him. But Sparks couldn't see past the big name. If he hadn't have been carried by Cook last year, this sacking would've come earlier than it did.

And let's not get into the failures of Lee Turnbull, Adams' scouts and the less than impressive business from Gent.

Sparks is 4/4 for failures in managerial appointments.

 

[bantamjay]

McCall - one of the most ridiculous contract extensions I've ever seen. Sacked weeks later.

Trueman & Sellars - appointed as caretakers, then made interim. What's that about? Then they won a few games and despite everyone and their dog knowing the performances were unsustainable, he appointed them permanently. Shock horror the form fell off a cliff and they were sacked before the season ended.

Adams - blinded by his CV. Again, any CEO with a footballing brain would've been able to predict that his style of football, coupled with his demeanour was never going to fit here. Sacked mid season.

Hughes - blinded by his stature in the game. There's a reason he had been out of work for so long and the likes of Peterborough rejected him. But Sparks couldn't see past the big name. If he hadn't have been carried by Cook last year, this sacking would've come earlier than it did.

And let's not get into the failures of Lee Turnbull, Adams' scouts and the less than impressive business from Gent.

Sparks is 4/4 for failures in managerial appointments.

On the contrary:

McCall - Contract extension signed as a parting gift from the outgoing Rhodes to the potential disappointment of Sparks, knowing he wanted rid.

Trueman & Sellars - Whipped up a feel good factor around the club with the run they went on, young coaches from our academy, season was on a hiding to nothing so why not.

Adams - a proven manager with promotion with a similar club in Plymouth. We finally identified a manager and went and got him. His CV suggested it could work, but obviously it didn’t. He was my number 1 choice at that time.

Hughes - I don’t think any Bradford city fan wouldn’t have appointed Hughes in the same situation, particularly with having the experienced Glynn Hodges alongside him who had the knowledge.

Sparks, and the clubs biggest mistakes for me has been the timing of things. To bring in a full recruitment team only for Adam’s to disband it weeks later to then have to rebuild another under Hughes was awful.

My concern with the Cowleys is that they seem to run every footballing aspect of the club. Again, this means that when they leave, we have to start from scratch.

All the successful teams that have gone through the leagues recently seem to have had a philosophy at the club from the top down, and the manager either buys into it or doesn’t get the job.

I think it’s harsh on Sparks to brand him a failure for the four managers. I don’t remember the same outcry against Rhodes when Peter Taylor failed too.

I guess, it only takes one and everyone forgets about the crap, ie. The Parkinson hire in 2011!

 

[AR27]

On the contrary:

McCall - Contract extension signed as a parting gift from the outgoing Rhodes to the potential disappointment of Sparks, knowing he wanted rid.

Trueman & Sellars - Whipped up a feel good factor around the club with the run they went on, young coaches from our academy, season was on a hiding to nothing so why not.

Adams - a proven manager with promotion with a similar club in Plymouth. We finally identified a manager and went and got him. His CV suggested it could work, but obviously it didn’t. He was my number 1 choice at that time.

Hughes - I don’t think any Bradford city fan wouldn’t have appointed Hughes in the same situation, particularly with having the experienced Glynn Hodges alongside him who had the knowledge.

Sparks, and the clubs biggest mistakes for me has been the timing of things. To bring in a full recruitment team only for Adam’s to disband it weeks later to then have to rebuild another under Hughes was awful.

My concern with the Cowleys is that they seem to run every footballing aspect of the club. Again, this means that when they leave, we have to start from scratch.

All the successful teams that have gone through the leagues recently seem to have had a philosophy at the club from the top down, and the manager either buys into it or doesn’t get the job.

I think it’s harsh on Sparks to brand him a failure for the four managers. I don’t remember the same outcry against Rhodes when Peter Taylor failed too.

I guess, it only takes one and everyone forgets about the crap, ie. The Parkinson hire in 2011!

I don't disagree with most of what you say but I think it further highlights my point.

The Trueman & Sellars hire was totally on a whim on the back of decent results but performances and data were clearly not taken into account whatsoever.

You may have wanted Adams here but I absolutely didn't and that was for the reasons that ultimately proved to be his downfall. Awful man and awful football. Football is more than a CV but Sparks never looked at the bigger picture. If other fans and I could forsee those problems, why couldn't our CEO?

And which city fan wouldn't have appointed Hughes? Why? Because he's Mark Hughes? Well therein lies the problem. Zero thought or planning went into it because Sparks was starstruck.

This level of reactionary, naive and short sighted behaviour is what I'd expect a fan to have if he was on work experience in the CEO's chair for the week. Not the actual man running this football club.

 

[JJ1990]

Strange how long all 3 appointments seem to be taking. Most of the new managers last season came just under 2 weeks after the previous one was fired. But it's 19 days with Gillingham, 20 days with Bradford and 6 weeks with Tranmere. Seems unusually long.

 

[Gi Dalor]

Strange how long all 3 appointments seem to be taking. Most of the new managers last season came just under 2 weeks after the previous one was fired. But it's 19 days with Gillingham, 20 days with Bradford and 6 weeks with Tranmere. Seems unusually long.

Bradford don't have to hurry because of the results and performances, although that's obviously creating new problems because anyone coming in is upsetting a functional apple cart.
It does sound as though Gillingham are going through an inflated recruitment process, and maybe have too many people running the show. if it was Scally who was responsible for Harris' sacking (I thought Scally was basically a silent partner these days) plus Jackett, Hess and Galinson all involved in the manager search, plus the sense from Galinson that they've talked to loads of applicants, it's no wonder it's taking ages.
I've no idea what Tranmere are up to.
How many potential managers do you really need to speak to when there's some obvious strong candidates?
Maybe clubs have spoken to the obvious candidates and didn't think it was a good fit.
I'm not in any hurry for Bradford City to appoint someone, though maybe McDonald is so he can focus on playing.

 

[PuB]

Strange how long all 3 appointments seem to be taking. Most of the new managers last season came just under 2 weeks after the previous one was fired. But it's 19 days with Gillingham, 20 days with Bradford and 6 weeks with Tranmere. Seems unusually long.

In our case it’s because the owners haven’t been in the country (came back yesterday), but quite why they sacked Harris without someone in mind is anyone’s guess

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Out the frying pan into the fire springs to mind.

 

[Luke Imp]

My concern with the Cowleys is that they seem to run every footballing aspect of the club. Again, this means that when they leave, we have to start from scratch.

All the successful teams that have gone through the leagues recently seem to have had a philosophy at the club from the top down, and the manager either buys into it or doesn’t get the job.

I don't think that should be a concern because whenever they go to a Club, they work with who's already there. It's not like they arrive and leave with tonnes of staff, it's them the two of them and that's it. They don't take anyone with them and most of what they'll implement you'll just carry on.

As they arrived here, we actually cleared out all the backroom staff so they had a free reign over who they recruited and it was a blank canvas but if you think you'll have to start from scratch when they leave, that's probably a reflection of the Club more than anything/anyone else.

As an example, we're obviously managerless at the minute but it's doesn't really have an impact on the backroom side of things for us. The manager and assistant left but that's it. Managers come in with an assistant, possibly a coach as well, but nothing more. They have no say over who's in the fitness/sport science department, recruitment/scouting department, performance/analysis department etc - that's all led by the Club. Naturally you chop and change as you go up the leagues and bring better people in but that's not the managers job.

That sort of Club framework is pretty common place in football now, perhaps not quite as common at L2/NL level I'm not sure, but it is above those leagues.

 

[Casey]

In other managerial news. Our ex boss Cioffi is the front runner for the Udinese job in seria a.

Our lot thought he was too strict.

Casey

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

In other managerial news. Our ex boss Cioffi is the front runner for the Udinese job in seria a.

Our lot thought he was too strict.

Casey

As a massive fan of Serie A I can assure you he's already managed them (and Hellas Verona) recently. But Serie A has form for reappointing previously sacked managers shortly afterwards! So I expect to see him back in charge!

 

[Kauto Star]

Graham Alexander has come from nowhere in the betting to 1/4 clear favourite for our gig this afternoon.

Ironically we play Franchise FC this evening.

 

[AR27]

Graham Alexander has come from nowhere in the betting to 1/4 clear favourite for our gig this afternoon.

Ironically we play Franchise FC this evening.

He can get to fuck. Just another Derek Adams

 

[クレイグ]

He can get to fuck. Just another Derek Adams

Yeah I wouldn't be happy with Alexander. Rather have McDonald.

 

[Kauto Star]

He can get to fuck. Just another Derek Adams

I was thinking the same with the comparison to Adams

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Horseman soon to be put out to pasture sooner rather than later if the boos at the end tonight are anything to go by.

They’ve tried a psycho, a woman and a human-animal hybrid - what will Swampy try next?

 

[EnglishRed]

You just can't put Mythical creatures in charge of football clubs.