Managerial Merry-Go-Round 2020/21

[Ninety Per Cent]

our ex player Ian Morris has left Shelbourne who he got promoted twice. Wonder if he's headed back to England to take over from Coxy.

 

[denzel ecfc]

The BBC report that Barton apologised fir his remarks.

Joey Barton: Bristol Rovers manager apologises for Holocaust analogy

Bristol Rovers manager Joey Barton apologises for comparing his side's performance against Newport on Saturday to "a Holocaust".

www.bbc.co.uk

But of course that isn't an apology, its 'I'm sorry if you were offended'.

He can't even get that right. What a tool

 

[GTFCfish]

The BBC report that Barton apologised fir his remarks.

Joey Barton: Bristol Rovers manager apologises for Holocaust analogy

Bristol Rovers manager Joey Barton apologises for comparing his side's performance against Newport on Saturday to "a Holocaust".

www.bbc.co.uk

But of course that isn't an apology, its 'I'm sorry if you were offended'.

He can't even get that right. What a tool

A snippet of Barton’s apology:

“I’m sorry for my foolish words, with hindsight I wouldn’t have said it, I acted like a right spacker and I apologise”.

 

[Chris FGR]

"For me, it was a poor analogy to use in the context of the modern-day world we live in, and it won't happen again."

Probably wasn’t a good analogy to use in the old days either tbf.

 

[denzel ecfc]

"For me, it was a poor analogy to use in the context of the modern-day world we live in, and it won't happen again."

Probably wasn’t a good analogy to use in the old days either tbf.

Subtext: Damn your modern Woke world, with all your fancy stuff where you can't compare losing a game to genocide.

 

[electrode113]

To be fair to Barton, he was probably running out of original ways to describe a shit performance, so he thought up one he (or any other manager) definitely hadn’t used yet. Will be interesting to see what he describes their next performance as.

He hasn't yet mentioned Bristol City sending secret agents to sabotage their team.

 

[Essex2Wessex]

Barton would make a fantastic movie villain, maybe in some kind of gangster heist movie, managing a football club for nefarious purposes as he clearly is not doing at Rovers. As he is (if nothing else), an "interesting character". If he were actually any cop as a manager he could been some kind of anti-hero in the film.

But, nah, in reality he's just a dick, dragging the reputation of his club through the mud, in ever more imaginative ways, week after week.

 

[RiftHouseLad]

The Betting on the Stockport job has been suspended on BetVicor, Oh Dear.

 

[kieran_vale]

I know they’re another of these conference clubs throwing money around on their “five year projects” but I think it’d be a bit short-sighted if Challinor were to make that move personally.

If he were to have a season consolidating Hartlepool in this league (which it was looking good) then a real big job like say the Sunderland one for example could come available at any time and he’d have a good case for that I’d have thought.

 

[BarraMatt]

Aye got to think that's a massive gamble for Challinor. He'd have League One clubs looking at him if Hartlepool end up having a decent season or two. That Stockport job will become a poisoned chalice, and he will be under pressure if he gets off to a slow start and they don't get the results that match the obvious outlay from the owners.

 

[Soup Ladle]

Well let's see but honestly that'd be a seriously underwhelming career move for him. And to be honest I think I'd lose a bit of respect for him if he goes there.

 

[Chief Rocka]

Well let's see but honestly that'd be a seriously underwhelming career move for him. And to be honest I think I'd lose a bit of respect for him if he goes there.

He'd of got a free pass if he went to Tranmere before they got Mellon, but yeah I'd feel the same if he dumps us for Stockport, they clearly have a bigger budget and arguably better squad of players to work with right now but he's wanted to be an EFL manager all his career, does he really wanna chuck it and try to do it all over again? That league is rough as fuck and they're not the only big spenders down there, 12 months down the line he could be in the dole queue again.

 

[Soup Ladle]

He'd of got a free pass if he went to Tranmere before they got Mellon, but yeah I'd feel the same if he dumps us for Stockport, they clearly have a bigger budget and arguably better squad of players to work with right now but he's wanted to be an EFL manager all his career, does he really wanna chuck it and try to do it all over again? That league is rough as fuck and they're not the only big spenders down there, 12 months down the line he could be in the dole queue again.

I don't think he actually planned on going to the highest bidder but he's clearly rattled by the squad depth we have (which he actually signed) and the away form (which hasn't been great for a long time). So it's a bit kind of throw the toys out of the pram move. And DC isn't bigger than the club if he's using this as an opportunity to get more cash, sort it or I'm off type of thing. Dumps us for a bigger club in a higher league, absolutely, shake hands good luck, hugs all round but Stockport, really?

Personally I'm disturbed by his radio interview. The only thing that might stand in his way is Raj's obstinate nature. He might demand silly money unless there's a release clause in that rather worthless looking new deal he signed.

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Think he felt let down yesterday and rightly so.
some of the decision making by the players was just lazy.

forget about the players wages, and you still end up with a hefty bill
travel overnight stay etc, and of course supporters being let down also.

Betvictor are betting again now with dc at 1/2
Agree with chief and soup, can,t see him leaving.

nobody likes to lose and as already been said you can take it
on the chin and move on, but not like yesterday which was a disgrace.

 

[Razzmachaz]

Very surprised by this Dave Challinor rumour. Hartlepool look like a club enjoying their return to the league (apart from yesterday) and Challinor has picked up plaudits. Very risky move in my opinion. Can't see the logic. As has been pointed out money doesn't guarantee success in that lottery of a league with only one automatic promotion place.

 

[PuB]

Are Stockport going shit or bust, or do they have very wealthy backers?

 

[Robshep]

Are Stockport going shit or bust, or do they have very wealthy backers?

Both.

 

[Vanni]

Wealthy backers apparently Pub so expect them to keep on spending loads until they win promotion.

 

[RLC]

Regarding the Challinor rumour, I think location is a big factor. His family is still based on the Wirral and the 360 mile round trip to the North East can't be appealing. I also think he would be successful at Stockport, despite the pressure of the job. He also had a big budget and a lot of pressure at Fylde, to a slightly lesser degree.

I also think Stockport are a slightly bigger club than Hartlepool, with more potential, which must be appealing to him.

 

[Soup Ladle]

Regarding the Challinor rumour, I think location is a big factor. His family is still based on the Wirral and the 360 mile round trip to the North East can't be appealing. I also think he would be successful at Stockport, despite the pressure of the job. He also had a big budget and a lot of pressure at Fylde, to a slightly lesser degree.

I also think Stockport are a slightly bigger club than Hartlepool, with more potential, which must be appealing to him.

I think you're talking fine margins here. What's not up for debate is that if he sees the season out then someone much bigger than Stockport will come calling. I'm disappointed with him.

 

[The Terminator]

November IMO will be big months for Alex Revell at Stevenage and expecially John Yems.

Stevenage might show a bit more patience with Revell after last year and they don't really have the budget to compete much higher than midtable.

Crawley under Yems now are more down than up and have been leaking more goals recently, he's been there 2 years now and don't show any signs of progressing.

 

[Salvador]

Both.

And a very expectant fan base. Most of them expected to win the league last season and same expectation this season. The ownership and some of the fan base talking about a 5 year plan of championship football and 20k seat upgrades to edgeley park are all a bit Salford for a club that’s spent several years in regional football but what do I know.
Not sure why they got rid of Gannon last season tbf. What I am sure of is getting out of that league seems to be getting harder for a traditional ex-league club. Just looking at some of the clubs down there the budgets of many will be greater than a lot of clubs in our league. Only 2 spots to come up means a lot of disappointment.

 

[Robshep]

And a very expectant fan base. Most of them expected to win the league last season and same expectation this season. The ownership and some of the fan base talking about a 5 year plan of championship football and 20k seat upgrades to edgeley park are all a bit Salford for a club that’s spent several years in regional football but what do I know.
Not sure why they got rid of Gannon last season tbf. What I am sure of is getting out of that league seems to be getting harder for a traditional ex-league club. Just looking at some of the clubs down there the budgets of many will be greater than a lot of clubs in our league. Only 2 spots to come up means a lot of disappointment.

Very true. When we were in it we were a scalp but there weren't that many ex league clubs. Despite what many believed we did not throw money at it. We had a lot of players signed on Bosman transfers who had experience of that league but our financial records show that the wages were not huge. £1•5m average per season split between 30+ players and 5 coaching staff is not big wages with 5,000+ crowds. We spent way less than £100,000 on transfer fees in 3 seasons. Most of our losses went on infrastructure.
Stockport County have spent close to £500,000 on transfer fees since January 2020 and their wage bill must be huge.
That league throws a spanner in the works every season. Money does not talk as much as hard work and desire.

 

[Boz]

Dave Challinor couldn’t get Fylde into the FL, when financially they were in a stronger position compared to competitors than Stockport are now, so he’ll be aware of the difficulties and challenges of escaping the NL If he stays, he keeps Pools up, which will be another positive on his CV, but who’s to say there will be another decent job opportunity in the NW where he’ll be a contender at the end of the season? Can’t help feeling he’s been let down by his chairman in terms of funds for the squad and at the weekend by his players, so wouldn’t be too critical if he did jump ship to Stockport.

 

[Tinnion's right foot]

Cox at Scunny has gone.

 

[Bottega Don]

We have sacked Neil Cox.

It's been a long time coming really, not many managers survive 3 wins in 35 games.

I do feel sorry for him due to the horrendous hand he's been given but his tactics lately are just inexcusable, he cost us vital points at Barrow and Carlisle with his negative tactics and his constant tinkering have killed an opportunity to grow any confidence.

This next appointment is the most important managerial appointment in the club's history, the future of the club could depend on this.

 

[shoddycollins]

Cox at Scunny has gone.

Bad news for us... We were hoping that Scunny wouldn't sack Cox and that as a result we would at least only be fighting to escape one relegation place. Now we have two to avoid.

 

[Casey]

There are a few rumblings at Crawley but not enough for Yems to be seriously worried. Still the madder fringe calling for change.

Personally I believe he, or any other manager here, is hogtied by our distinct lack of funds. Our owner has put plenty of money in but it's only enough to get our heads above water.

The leaking goals could be put down to the injuries we have at centre back. I believe we are back down to one fit one again.

I do think a change of tack is needed. We are desperate for that extra bit if quality, pace and power in midfield but where can we get it from?

Casey

 

[valefan16]

There are a few rumblings at Crawley but not enough for Yems to be seriously worried. Still the madder fringe calling for change.

Personally I believe he, or any other manager here, is hogtied by our distinct lack of funds. Our owner has put plenty of money in but it's only enough to get our heads above water.

The leaking goals could be put down to the injuries we have at centre back. I believe we are back down to one fit one again.

I do think a change of tack is needed. We are desperate for that extra bit if quality, pace and power in midfield but where can we get it from?

Casey

Crawley always seems a funny one and Darryl Clarke mentioned it in his pre match interview that your very streaky...

You have spells where you seem to win a few on the spin or go a long period unbeaten, then go on a really poor run and seem to have been like that for a couple of seasons or so now. Prior to this run you'd been doing well hadn't you?

 

[Casey]

Pretty well to be honest.

I don't think we are good or bad enough to trouble either end of the table but a losing streak can turn into a very bad run pretty quickly.

Casey