Most tinpot thing I ever heard. (tinpot thread)

[GuiseleySteve]

http://www.thenationalleague.org.uk/pennock-not-happy-as-barrow-players-skip-hotel-sta-45231

Why would the players have to pay £25 towards hotel costs when it was the club that wanted them to stay overnight? A bit ironic for Pennock to then say the players need to show more professionalism

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Why would the players have to pay £25 towards hotel costs when it was the club that wanted them to stay overnight? A bit ironic for Pennock to then say the players need to show more professionalism

I don't think he actually knows it's £25 - all he's saying is that it would have been inexpensive for the players to spend the night in the Premier Inn over the road and be fresh for the game, rather than rush up on the afternoon of the game. But they couldn't even be bothered heeding his advice/request. He's more questioning how much the players care about being prepared for games.

 

[Master D]

Ady Pillock strikes again. Professionalism would be for the club to actually sort this out for the players, like every other club does (or I assume does).

 

[EnglishRed]

25 quid? Posh.

 

[AnimoEtFide]

I don't think he actually knows it's £25 - all he's saying is that it would have been inexpensive for the players to spend the night in the Premier Inn over the road and be fresh for the game, rather than rush up on the afternoon of the game. But they couldn't even be bothered heeding his advice/request. He's more questioning how much the players care about being prepared for games.

Asking players to pay for hotels with their own money, justifying it by saying it's voluntary, and then blasting them in the media when they turn down the offer, strikes me as very unprofessional. Recruiting players from so far away that they can't be fully prepared for a game unless they stay in a hotel the night before is also strikes me as very unprofessional.

 

[Master D]

25 quid? Posh.

That gets you the best hotel in Barrow.

 

[AnimoEtFide]

That gets you the best hotel in Barrow.

And company for the evening.

 

[genesimmons]

Never mind cost of hotel, How far are the players travelling if they have to stay in a hotel to be fresh for the game. Even when players come from abroad to play for pro clubs they tend to live within a 30 mile radius. So if the players live so far from barrow i presume they all travel to away games by car

 

[Raymondo316]

Never mind cost of hotel, How far are the players travelling if they have to stay in a hotel to be fresh for the game. Even when players come from abroad to play for pro clubs they tend to live within a 30 mile radius. So if the players live so far from barrow i presume they all travel to away games by car

They train in Manchester so id imagine most of them live around that area

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Never mind cost of hotel, How far are the players travelling if they have to stay in a hotel to be fresh for the game. Even when players come from abroad to play for pro clubs they tend to live within a 30 mile radius. So if the players live so far from barrow i presume they all travel to away games by car

Yeah, they do - not a single one (to my knowledge) lives within an hour and a half of Barrow. It's all based around Manchester, but I think some live in Stoke sort of area too.

Personally, I think this one line about hotels seems to overshadow what is just a rant about how little the players care about the club. He's not recruited any of them, so it's clearly not an arrangement he's happy with anyway, but his whole point is that it's the players' prerogative to be best prepared for the games (they're all full-time and paid well in comparison to most clubs), but only two players saw fit to stay over.
I know where people are coming from, and if he really felt that passionately about it, arrange training for 9am in Barrow or something, but I think this was just a throw-away line at the end of a long rant about the players being not arsed.

 

[genesimmons]

Yeah, they do - not a single one (to my knowledge) lives within an hour and a half of Barrow. It's all based around Manchester, but I think some live in Stoke sort of area too.

Personally, I think this one line about hotels seems to overshadow what is just a rant about how little the players care about the club. He's not recruited any of them, so it's clearly not an arrangement he's happy with anyway, but his whole point is that it's the players' prerogative to be best prepared for the games (they're all full-time and paid well in comparison to most clubs), but only two players saw fit to stay over.
I know where people are coming from, and if he really felt that passionately about it, arrange training for 9am in Barrow or something, but I think this was just a throw-away line at the end of a long rant about the players being not arsed.

Want to recruit guys liveing nearer or at least willing to move to the area

 

[genesimmons]

They train in Manchester so id imagine most of them live around that area

Last i heard they trained in lancaster which aint too far away

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Want to recruit guys liveing nearer or at least willing to move to the area

Living nearer - we'd all like that, but these players don't exist
Willing to live nearer - we're already paying over the odds to get them to Barrow once a fortnight. To get them to move here, you'd probably have to pay an extra 50% on top of that.

Last i heard they trained in lancaster which aint too far away

That was probably about 4/5 years ago. They train at Rochdale.


Personally, I couldn't care less if there's any locals in the team, nor where they train, just as long as they do the job they're paid for on the pitch. There's at least six or seven players at the moment that aren't putting in the effort at all, and almost all the rest are just shit.

 

[GTFCfish]

That gets you the best hotel in Barrow.

£25 in Barrow buys you the hotel itself.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

£25 in Barrow buys you the hotel itself.

Glass houses, mate!

 

[GTFCfish]

Glass houses, mate!

That didn't take long.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

That didn't take long.

Ha, just happened to click on at the precise time you posted.

We all live in 'shithole' towns, that's why no one's built a premier league club there.

 

[wilsontown]

We all live in 'shithole' towns

Not me.

 

[DontBringBertie]

Not me.

There is a high % of shithole towns in this league though. Except Chester, Solihull and Maidenhead.

Dover is definitely one of the worst places I’ve ever been to.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

There is a high % of shithole towns in this league though. Except Chester, Solihull and Maidenhead.

Dover is definitely one of the worst places I’ve ever been to.

You missed Guiseley from your exceptions. How very dare you!

 

[Master D]

It'll have been mentioned countless times before but the National League Twitter page and website defines tinpot. They do ridiculous click-bait titles such as "Revealed: the National League's top marksmen!". As though it's a mystery and the only way you can access such confidential information is through them.

Or "So who exactly has the best - and worst - away records in the National League?" Where someone has helpfully written an 'article' on it, because of course looking at the actual table is very time-consuming.

 

[DontBringBertie]

You missed Guiseley from your exceptions. How very dare you!

Did go to Guiseley last year.. pretty sure there’s nothing there except for the football and cricket clubs so hard to make a judgement either way!

 

[rudebwoyben]

Macclesfield is pretty middle-class, non?
Sutton Bromley and Woking are of that London/Surrey/Kent fringe thst’s pretty prosperous.

I’d give you the rest though!

 

[GTFCfish]

Macclesfield is pretty middle-class, non?
Sutton Bromley and Woking are of that London/Surrey/Kent fringe thst’s pretty prosperous.

I’d give you the rest though!

But Sparrow is from Woking so they obviously still have some undesirables living there.

 

[Farleigh]

Not me.

I've lived in Clifton. Every town has its shithole areas.

 

[Blue Lion]

Macclesfield is pretty middle-class, non?
Sutton Bromley and Woking are of that London/Surrey/Kent fringe thst’s pretty prosperous.

I’d give you the rest though!

A lot of the towns around us are pretty affluent, like Prestbury, Wilmslow, Alderley Edge etc. That's where all the rich folk live. But the town of Macclesfield not so much. In fact the ground itself is build on a reputably sketchy estate.

 

[DontBringBertie]

Macclesfield is pretty middle-class, non?
Sutton Bromley and Woking are of that London/Surrey/Kent fringe thst’s pretty prosperous.

I’d give you the rest though!

Ah yes forgot Macc. And yeah wouldn’t class any of the above as that shit really.

Might have to do a conference table ranked in order of ‘shitholeness’ now.

 

[The_Boss]

Macc's in a generally affluent surrounding area but the town itself ain't great, though plenty of decent pubs for an away day!

 

[GTFCfish]

An affluent area in Grimsby means that less than 30% of houses in it are boarded up.

 

[UTS]

An affluent area in Grimsby means that less than 30% of houses in it are boarded up.

Waltham is lovely