National League fixtures 17-18/08/19

[chipmunx]

Surely it's more depressing the more seasons you are in non legaue football#stain? The first season it's all new and there is an element of enjoyment in that fact

yes and no;-
season 1 is exciting and depressing. exciting as you have new places to go (and old ones to re-visit) and you win a few more games than usual. Depressing because you won't go up and lose at Boreham Wood or Chorley or somewhere else you're expecting an easy 3 points from.
seasons 2-5 are hope that you might go up. you'll have about a 1 in 3 chance if you're any good.
season's 6-10. resignation and trying to remember what the EFL was like
seasons 11+ half your fans have never seen an EFL match - but you still have "Liverpool Syndrome"... It's gonna be our year - then the next thing you know it's nearly 30 years since you won the league (or were even in it).

Wrexham have been here 12 or 13 season's and they are still arguably the biggest club in the league - size of club and support means nothing here.
My club Barrow has been here for...47 years and like Stockport, Halifax, Aldershot and Torquay have all played in the next league down too. And if you think this league is hard to get out of National League North is just as bad... ex-EFL sides Boston, Darlington, Hereford, Chester and York are all down there and at least 3 of them won't go up in any given season...

 

[Master D]

The tinpotters always keep a record of their results against the Proper Teams.

 

[chipmunx]

The tinpotters always keep a record of their results against the Proper Teams.

As Wrexham have been here longer than their girlfriends average lifespan (i just googled it and Sheep usually live 10-12 years naturally) i think Wrexham are tinpot now too....

 

[TheEndIsNigh]

Yeah I think our landing has been softened a bit by having two of the biggest away followings all season in the first 3 home games, and also going to a couple of quite nice places in Eastleigh and Harrogate.

The weekend will be a shock to the system with Ebbsfleet away and Chorley at home. Particularly if we don’t win both, which I think most of us are expecting to after yesterday’s performance.

People have warned about the reffing, but I thought the bloke yesterday was really good.

 

[Jerry]

yes and no;-
season 1 is exciting and depressing. exciting as you have new places to go (and old ones to re-visit) and you win a few more games than usual. Depressing because you won't go up and lose at Boreham Wood or Chorley or somewhere else you're expecting an easy 3 points from.
seasons 2-5 are hope that you might go up. you'll have about a 1 in 3 chance if you're any good.
season's 6-10. resignation and trying to remember what the EFL was like
seasons 11+ half your fans have never seen an EFL match - but you still have "Liverpool Syndrome"... It's gonna be our year - then the next thing you know it's nearly 30 years since you won the league (or were even in it).

Wrexham have been here 12 or 13 season's and they are still arguably the biggest club in the league - size of club and support means nothing here.
My club Barrow has been here for...47 years and like Stockport, Halifax, Aldershot and Torquay have all played in the next league down too. And if you think this league is hard to get out of National League North is just as bad... ex-EFL sides Boston, Darlington, Hereford, Chester and York are all down there and at least 3 of them won't go up in any given season...

Sums it up pretty perfectly

Everything is shiny and new for Notts fans at the moment, home attendances are often higher than in the league for the first year down here. Anything is better than the dross of the previous season but this soon wears thin once you realise you won't be escaping anytime soon.

Get out in the first couple of years whatever you do!

 

[EnglishRed]

Whilst I am desperate for us to get promotion back to the league, more for reasons of status and funding rather than a burning desire to see us play all the tinpotters who currently clog up league 2, there is plenty to like about non-league football.

 

[Soup Ladle]

The first season is as depressing as fuck. We played all the smaller sides first up, losing home & away including losing on BT to Maidenhead. Then we almost went bust. Weird experiences include going away and being told by opposition fans that it is good to be playing a 'big' club. Also, one of the Maidenhead players gave me a beer on the train home as they celebrated beating us at the Vic, it was a special occasion them winning at Pools and they were proud they'd done the double on us but were nice enough to say that they hoped it'd come together for Pools at some point. 'Not a bad side but need more height' one player told me. Still haven't addressed that properly. These sort of exchanges you won't get much in the league. All wears very thin eventually though.

The second season, losing to all & sundry bothers you but starts to get less upsetting.

Third season it's water off a duck's arse, you start to accept you'll be here a long time and that's just your lot in life. You realise everything you try just won't work, everyone you sign will turn to shite and you're basically just fucked for eternity.

 

[jacobncfc]

People have warned about the reffing, but I thought the bloke yesterday was really good.

4 out of 5 have been good for me, with the exception of the guy against Stockport who was hopeless.

 

[chipmunx]

one of the plus points is that you may get to be Hartlepool's last away match of the season which is always a good crack - unfortunately they have Bromley as their last scheduled away game this time though.

 

[Soup Ladle]

yes and no;-
season 1 is exciting and depressing. exciting as you have new places to go (and old ones to re-visit) and you win a few more games than usual. Depressing because you won't go up and lose at Boreham Wood or Chorley or somewhere else you're expecting an easy 3 points from.
seasons 2-5 are hope that you might go up. you'll have about a 1 in 3 chance if you're any good.
season's 6-10. resignation and trying to remember what the EFL was like
seasons 11+ half your fans have never seen an EFL match - but you still have "Liverpool Syndrome"... It's gonna be our year - then the next thing you know it's nearly 30 years since you won the league (or were even in it).

Wrexham have been here 12 or 13 season's and they are still arguably the biggest club in the league - size of club and support means nothing here.
My club Barrow has been here for...47 years and like Stockport, Halifax, Aldershot and Torquay have all played in the next league down too. And if you think this league is hard to get out of National League North is just as bad... ex-EFL sides Boston, Darlington, Hereford, Chester and York are all down there and at least 3 of them won't go up in any given season...

Totally obsessed you are.

BTW I'd say Notts are the biggest not that it means much as we all know.

 

[jacobncfc]

It’s entirely meaningless, but I’d say we’re the ‘biggest’ club in the division by quite a long way.

 

[Master D]

Totally obsessed you are.

BTW I'd say Notts are the biggest not that it means much as we all know.

They are much bigger than us.

Between him and Vanni I’m not sure who is the weirdest.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Sums it up pretty perfectly

Everything is shiny and new for Notts fans at the moment, home attendances are often higher than in the league for the first year down here. Anything is better than the dross of the previous season but this soon wears thin once you realise you won't be escaping anytime soon.

Get out in the first couple of years whatever you do!

Rest assured the average attendance won't be higher this season than last season. Last season's effort from the supporters was literally the only silver lining of a very dark cloud

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

They are much bigger than us.

Between him and Vanni I’m not sure who is the weirdest.

You are going some to be weirder than Vanni.

 

[Magpie Mike]

Wait til you go to Boreham Wood, Maidenhead, Barrow etc. Real eye openers.

How dare you lump us in with Boring Wood.
Maidenhead have real fans and a proper historical ground.
A great away trip by all accounts.

 

[CFC91]

Surely it's more depressing the more seasons you are in non legaue football#stain? The first season it's all new and there is an element of enjoyment in that fact

From experience that "first season fun" is absolute rubbish. Aside from a good day out at Harrogate and Salford (didnt win either) I found it all pretty depressing. Home games were worse, think on Wrexham bought anything remotely decent, a fair few were sub 100.

 

[CFC91]

just because we beat you at our place last season don't be bitter...

and just so you know our record against Notts County in League matches is Played 10 won 5 drawn 1 lost 4

I'm not bitter, it just wasn't a very good trip or experience. Neither was Maidstone, Ebbsfleet, Dover etc

 

[CFC91]

How dare you lump us in with Boring Wood.
Maidenhead have real fans and a proper historical ground.
A great away trip by all accounts.

Maidenhead was a decent day in the town actually until I got in the ground and watched us get turned over (deservedly) in front of about 1000 people and it was like being at a pre season game at Matlock

 

[Soup Ladle]

From experience that "first season fun" is absolute rubbish. Aside from a good day out at Harrogate and Salford (didnt win either) I found it all pretty depressing. Home games were worse, think on Wrexham bought anything remotely decent, a fair few were sub 100.

Only 6 teams brought more than 100 to ours last season. We suffer more than most on that front. One of the most depressing things here is seeing your away end basically empty. BTW I think we took 5 or 600 to yours last season, which wasn’t a bad turnout.

 

[CFC91]

Only 6 teams brought more than 100 to ours last season. We suffer more than most on that front. One of the most depressing things here is seeing your away end basically empty. BTW I think we took 5 or 600 to yours last season, which wasn’t a bad turnout.

I bet we can't have been far off the biggest following at your place last season based on that then. Agree it is depressing, didn't go to our game v you last season but yeah consider yourself exempt as that isn't a bad following at all at this level.

 

[Eastleigh Fan]

We were awful, Stockport were marginally less awful.
Just 2 goals scored in 5 games and both from center half's at set pieces.
Its going to be a long ass season, unless something changes up front.

 

[AdamStag]

You're a MANSFIELD fan!

I went with a Huddersfield fan to watch you play there in 2004 and you walloped them 3-1 (Liam Lawrence absolutely fucking brilliant that day). Watching yous come out of the ground anyone would have thought it YOU that got hammered- never seen so many flat caps and sullen faces in my life. What a miserable set of buggars, I thought. Brother.

Think you must be confused. Remember that day was a real belter, much fun was had coming out of there and afterward. Still lost in the bloody final to them

 

[Monkey Tennis]

4 out of 5 have been good for me, with the exception of the guy against Stockport who was hopeless.

I can assure you, those four refs were also shit - you just got the best of the decisions. Not a single competent official at this level.

 

[B2TF]

The first season is as depressing as fuck. We played all the smaller sides first up, losing home & away including losing on BT to Maidenhead. Then we almost went bust. Weird experiences include going away and being told by opposition fans that it is good to be playing a 'big' club. Also, one of the Maidenhead players gave me a beer on the train home as they celebrated beating us at the Vic, it was a special occasion them winning at Pools and they were proud they'd done the double on us but were nice enough to say that they hoped it'd come together for Pools at some point. 'Not a bad side but need more height' one player told me. Still haven't addressed that properly. These sort of exchanges you won't get much in the league. All wears very thin eventually though.

The second season, losing to all & sundry bothers you but starts to get less upsetting.

Third season it's water off a duck's arse, you start to accept you'll be here a long time and that's just your lot in life. You realise everything you try just won't work, everyone you sign will turn to shite and you're basically just fucked for eternity.

A good rule of thumb is, if you were shit in the League you'll be shit in non league too so, yeah you'll be here for a while. Trust me Brother.

Notts County and Chesterfield will be first out of here.

 

[jacobncfc]

I can assure you, those four refs were also shit - you just got the best of the decisions. Not a single competent official at this level.

We ended with nine men at Eastleigh..

 

[EnglishRed]

Only 6 teams brought more than 100 to ours last season. We suffer more than most on that front. One of the most depressing things here is seeing your away end basically empty. BTW I think we took 5 or 600 to yours last season, which wasn’t a bad turnout.

Histon famously brought 0 fans to us once.

A high point.

 

[Optipez]

It's been pretty decent so far to be fair. Things were so bad this summer that just starting this season as a functioning outfit, new owners, new players has given us a lift and has cushioned the blow of falling into the abyss.
It felt like an abyss coming back from Swindon last game of the season but now it's just another season. So far. A bad losing streak and it may change.
Relegation would risk is losing the ground and going part time, that really is a nagging worry rhough.

 

[doveranddover]

Histon famously brought 0 fans to us once.

A high point.

How long ago was that ?
how long have you been in this league?

 

[EnglishRed]

How long ago was that ?
how long have you been in this league?

That was 9 years ago. We've been down here for 12 years, it's been mentioned a few times. Are you not paying attention?

 

[Master D]

We've been down here as long as Halifax have been in existence, that's a depressing stat.