Notts vs Port Vale

[jacobncfc]

From the Kop of looked like Stead made a clear dive, he was halfway to the floor when the ball came to him.
Talked to a couple of mates after the match who saw it from the Main stand and they thought it was a pen for a clear push. They had same view as the ref.

Aye, just seen the replay from the Main Stand camera angle and it looks much more like a penalty than it did in real time. Still think it's a bit soft, but the lad does give Stead a bit of a push in the back and then does the classic 'protest innocence with hands in the air' thing immediately, so reckon he knew that he'd given the ref a decision to make.

 

[valefan16]

Aspin has done a job with vale. They looked a shambles when we visited earlier in the season. They are one of the better sides I've seen visit the lane this season.

Shows just how bad Brown the Clown was!

 

[1862]

Pen looked really soft from the Pavis but I can see why it was given.

Harsh on Vale who were probably good value for the draw. Still not really sure that Notts are really as good as the table suggests but we'll know better after the Lincoln and Exeter games.

 

[Youpies]

Now we have achieved safety. Have we played anyone good yet?

 

[TylerB]

Aspin has done a job with vale. They looked a shambles when we visited earlier in the season. They are one of the better sides I've seen visit the lane this season.

I adore you. Not gonna even deny it.

 

[TylerB]

Away at Forest Green aren't you?

Yep, getting ahead of myself as usual!

 

[ValiantRob]

I hope the Notts players regain their balance soon.

 

[AFaceInTheCrowd]

I hope the Notts players regain their balance soon.

How's your keeper snowflake? The poor little mite managed to hit himself in the head with his hand while trying to catch the ball and dropped like he'd been shot.

Think it bit you on the arse as the linesman who had a mare appeared to talk to the ref when the ball was back in play. Next time the ball came into the box the ref levelled it up with probably the softest penalty of the 3 we should have had prior.

 

[valefan16]

To be fair the most obvious penalty incident was in the opposite box which we didn't get (not that we got much anyway!).

Mind you Whitfield had a great chance to put Barnett clean through on the keeper second half and inexplicably held onto it which was frustrating!

 

[TylerB]

I see your manager is on record saying that County dominated the game. I'm not sure what game he was at, but it certainly wasn't the County/Vale one. It must have been an impersonator in their dugout. County perhaps shaded it over the 90 minutes, but to say they dominated the game from start to finish is absolute nonsense! Think Nolan headed the ball one too many times when playing for Bolton.

 

[valefan16]

I see your manager is on record saying that County dominated the game. I'm not sure what game he was at, but it certainly wasn't the County/Vale one. It must have been an impersonator in their dugout. County perhaps shaded it over the 90 minutes, but to say they dominated the game from start to finish is absolute nonsense! Think Nolan headed the ball one too many times when playing for Bolton.

We started brightly, they then dominated the first half... all be it only really creating things from set pieces, second half I thought we were the slightly better side. We had more shots but frustratingly only one on target.

Was all long ball, you can tell both sides prefer playing that way, on the rarer occasions we did get it down we did better mind, but literally long ball back and forth all game so wasn't the best spectacle was it.

 

[PiedPiper]

I see your manager is on record saying that County dominated the game. I'm not sure what game he was at, but it certainly wasn't the County/Vale one. It must have been an impersonator in their dugout. County perhaps shaded it over the 90 minutes, but to say they dominated the game from start to finish is absolute nonsense! Think Nolan headed the ball one too many times when playing for Bolton.

We had 58% possession and more shots on target than your measly 1! The stats back up that fact.

You can see how Vale play, try and bully teams and hit Pope at every opportunity (who should have seen red btw!) With everyone else running on. I can't remember seeing Vale have one clear cut chance? I think you had one real tame header straight at the keeper but that's all. I can see how Luton got rolled over, they aren't set up for playing the physical teams.

Your keeper should be angry at your medical team for not following concussion protocols after such an horrific head injury that he did to himself as well, saying that, he seemed to have the regeneration skills of wolverine as he was well enough to fell Grant in the box that the inept officials gave as an offside after he ran past your centre back!

 

[TylerB]

We had 58% possession and more shots on target than your measly 1! The stats back up that fact.

You can see how Vale play, try and bully teams and hit Pope at every opportunity (who should have seen red btw!) With everyone else running on. I can't remember seeing Vale have one clear cut chance? I think you had one real tame header straight at the keeper but that's all. I can see how Luton got rolled over, they aren't set up for playing the physical teams.

Your keeper should be angry at your medical team for not following concussion protocols after such an horrific head injury that he did to himself as well, saying that, he seemed to have the regeneration skills of wolverine as he was well enough to fell Grant in the box that the inept officials gave as an offside after he ran past your centre back!

We outplayed Luton on the deck, so your point is absolutely invalid. We kept getting physically bullied earlier on in the season most weeks also!

What you are saying you're basing it on one, maybe two games of football. It would be like me saying that Notts County are bang average and I have no idea how they are so high up the league and that your football is also really, really poor. (but obviously effective)

Also, as the home team 58% possession is absolutely nothing!

 

[TylerB]

We started brightly, they then dominated the first half... all be it only really creating things from set pieces, second half I thought we were the slightly better side. We had more shots but frustratingly only one on target.

Was all long ball, you can tell both sides prefer playing that way, on the rarer occasions we did get it down we did better mind, but literally long ball back and forth all game so wasn't the best spectacle was it.

So basically you're saying that in anybody's world other than Nolan's and perhaps a few village idiots that are so biased they aren't worthy of any sort of debate, that they in no way dominated the game as he suggested. It really irks me when managers see a completely different game than pretty much everybody else.

 

[valefan16]

So basically you're saying that in anybody's world other than Nolan's and perhaps a few village idiots that are so biased they aren't worthy of any sort of debate, that they in no way dominated the game as he suggested. It really irks me when managers see a completely different game than pretty much everybody else.

No we wasn't overly dominated, no more than you expect as an away side, at times it was like Tennis, hoof then it came straight back and so on, both sides were guilty of it, the times the ball went long through to both keepers or into the corners was nuts!

Neither side created a thing barely aside from corners and free kicks lumped into the box. We had to be physical yesterday to combat County's style but as you say we can play too as we proved at the weekend. When you have arguably the best aerial presence in the lower divisions up front you will try and use him though!

 

[Soz]

Not happy with Boot's antics when he went down. I hate to see any Vale player dive or feign injury.

Then again I'm also not happy with the 5-6 times Notts did it to try and get players sent off and/or penalties.

I don't understand why referees constantly reward the team who is actively trying to con them.

 

[Soz]

We had 58% possession and more shots on target than your measly 1! The stats back up that fact.

You can see how Vale play, try and bully teams and hit Pope at every opportunity (who should have seen red btw!) With everyone else running on. I can't remember seeing Vale have one clear cut chance? I think you had one real tame header straight at the keeper but that's all. I can see how Luton got rolled over, they aren't set up for playing the physical teams.

Your keeper should be angry at your medical team for not following concussion protocols after such an horrific head injury that he did to himself as well, saying that, he seemed to have the regeneration skills of wolverine as he was well enough to fell Grant in the box that the inept officials gave as an offside after he ran past your centre back!

Laughable to be honest after your antics. You managed to pick out the one incident of cheating from Vale but ignore the 5-6 from Notts County?

Even game, didn't deserve to lose, even if they had a million shots on target and we had 1 (We had 2 blocked from inside the 6 yard box, and Worrall had a header saved) so that's wrong for starters.

Shame we lost but it's nothing to do with how we played so moral should still be high. If only we'd have had Aspin in from the start. The past 6 games have shown we're at least as good as the top few teams in this league.

 

[Youpies]

I’ll take being bang average and on 50 points early January.

We haven’t been found out yet so long may it continue

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I can’t believe a manager has said his team dominated a game when it appears nobody was dominate! I’ve never in all my years of watching football and hearing managers in post match interviews heard a biased managers view on the game I’ve jusg watched. I can’t believe Super Kev has broke my near 30 year streak with his openly biased view!!

I’m guessing Tyler you are new to Football or at the very least managers post match interviews.

Games over, surprised we weren’t assisted with an opposition red card , that has seemed to help us to victory quite a few times this season at Meadow Lane.

Delighted to have beaten both a joke Vale and a good Vale without conceding in either game. That season double was much needed after Swindon defeat

 

[jacobncfc]

We ‘dominated the game’ in the way that we have ‘dominated games’ all season. We’re incredibly good at turning what look like even games into ones where we carve out a relatively low number of efforts overall but a number of clear ones, whilst restricting the opposition to half chances.

They may have been from set pieces, but if Forte gets a clean connection on his effort from four yards out and Yates puts his free header anywhere other than straight at the ‘keeper then it’s 2-0 at half time and game over. Add in Forte skewing a one on one miles wide, Saunders heading wide from three yards out and the penalty and we’ve created five clearer chances than anything Vale did, even though it was quite an even game on territory etc.

It’s how we play and has served us well all season.

I don’t know if people have seen or give much significance to those expected goal stats - but we had it 1.4 - 0.7 yesterday, which again, is pretty much how all of our home games look.

 

[TylerB]

There's been biased and then there's just talking bollocks, which is what Nolan was doing from what I read. Why not just say that he thought they edged the game and just about deserved the 3 points instead of making it sound like you didn't give us a kick?

 

[valefan16]

There's been biased and then there's just talking bollocks, which is what Nolan was doing from what I read. Why not just say that he thought they edged the game and just about deserved the 3 points instead of making it sound like you didn't give us a kick?

To be fair after the bollocks Michael Brown used to say to cover his uselessness it isnt uncommon. We've just got used to Aspin of late who says it exactly how it is, good or bad.

 

[Andy Proctor]

To be fair the most obvious penalty incident was in the opposite box which we didn't get (not that we got much anyway!).
We have only had 1 penalty this season at home to Barnet and even the ref didn't give that the linesman did. Also I have doctors appointment Tuesday 9th January at 8.30am.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

A lot of managers start out with the ‘tell it like it is, 99% truth to the fans’ when they originally take over. Shaun ‘he’s one of our own’ Derry was a prime, refreshing example but that changed when results did. There are countless examples of managers from PL down who say it like it is when they are doing well. Tyler think back to past Vale managers and I bet you can name an easy Top 5 that when you got back in the car, and heard the manager put a big spin on what you’d just seen at Vale Park.

Unfair to judge Aspin this early Cos he’s done so well so far.

As for Super Kev, whilst he’s performing near miracles with this limited squad and turning up trees he can say what he likes afterwards. What he tells the players post match compares to what he tells the press / fans I expect is very different especially after a fortunate draw or deserved defeat.

It’s what he does on the training ground and behind the scenes is what I’m bothered about.

Personally, although far too early to be sure I think he’s a special manager. His time at Notts to date has been incredibly impressive that even the idiot doomsayer know it all Notts fans are hardly making an appearance in recent times

 

[valefan16]

We seem to be following Notts a year behind... season of struggle, new manager, then up turn in results to safety... maybe next year....

 

[TylerB]

A lot of managers start out with the ‘tell it like it is, 99% truth to the fans’ when they originally take over. Shaun ‘he’s one of our own’ Derry was a prime, refreshing example but that changed when results did. There are countless examples of managers from PL down who say it like it is when they are doing well. Tyler think back to past Vale managers and I bet you can name an easy Top 5 that when you got back in the car, and heard the manager put a big spin on what you’d just seen at Vale Park.

Unfair to judge Aspin this early Cos he’s done so well so far.

As for Super Kev, whilst he’s performing near miracles with this limited squad and turning up trees he can say what he likes afterwards. What he tells the players post match compares to what he tells the press / fans I expect is very different especially after a fortunate draw or deserved defeat.

It’s what he does on the training ground and behind the scenes is what I’m bothered about.

Personally, although far too early to be sure I think he’s a special manager. His time at Notts to date has been incredibly impressive that even the idiot doomsayer know it all Notts fans are hardly making an appearance in recent times

I completely agree. Just felt like a whinge and let off a bit of steam

I liked Kevin Nolan as a player and he's obviously doing very well as a manager early on in his new career. Good luck to the bloke.

 

[GTFCfish]

Under Aspin we're the equal of teams such as Luton.

No, you are not, nobody in this league is.

You beat them in a one off game, well done, but they are in a different league to everyone else in league 2.

 

[valefan16]

No, you are not, nobody in this league is.

You beat them in a one off game, well done, but they are in a different league to everyone else in league 2.

To be fair we’ve taken not far off their points total in the same period but I think he means we can compete and beat them, whereas we couldn’t beat an Egg under Brown. (Apart from Crawley)

Beat two and unfortunately not to get a point out of the other team in the top 3 in 3 games shows the improvement.

Now we will balls up against FGR and Yeovil because we’re Port Vale and it happens regardless of what side of year it is!

 

[GTFCfish]

To be fair we’ve taken not far off their points total in the same period but I think he means we can compete and beat them, whereas we couldn’t beat an Egg under Brown. (Apart from Crawley)

Beat two and unfortunately not to get a point out of the other team in the top 3 in 3 games shows the improvement.

Now we will balls up against FGR and Yeovil because we’re Port Vale and it happens regardless of what side of year it is!

Yeah I think we played you at a good time before Aspin had a proper chance to change things, your turnaround with pretty much the same players is pretty remarkable to be honest.

 

[valefan16]

Yeah I think we played you at a good time before Aspin had a proper chance to change things, your turnaround with pretty much the same players is pretty remarkable to be honest.

Although faith was tested the squad was never bad, I don’t think it’s a case of a miracle as Whitfield is one of the best players at this level, Montano, Harness, Worrall, Pope, Kay, Pugh, Smith all more than capable of holding their own in the division above, Brown just didn’t have a clue how to set us up, we play a similar system but have higher support for Pope which transformed our scoring abilities, fitness seemed a big issue which he improved and well lots of talk players weren’t playing for Brown.

Brown just couldn’t do the basics in terms of tactics and motivation.