Saturday 10th December 2022

[Stroud]

You could send a glass eye to sleep you insufferable bastard.

Wait until Sheffield Wednesday are to play at TNL, I have already created the text which will keep you awake grinding your teeth. That's a promise.

BTW Thanks for your reply that included the main points of my post: > El Glosico, Gloucestershire derby, lifeless Cheltenham. Cheers.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Blimey you've got a chip on your shoulder. Did a Stoke lad have his way with your missus?

I like Bristol as a city but I wouldn't want to live there. I live on the edge of the peak district and it's some of the most amazing countryside in the UK...not everybody who is from Stoke lives in a pot bank.

A city is made by its people and you couldn't find friendlier down to earth people than those from Stoke....even those with money. If you go to Clifton everyone thinks they're living in Knightsbridge or something.

I've always found Stokies to be friendly aside from the football fans but it is a bit of a shithole but is surrounded by absolute beauty in the peak district, Sheffield is similar.

 

[leedsvaliant]

I've always found Stokies to be friendly aside from the football fans but it is a bit of a shithole but is surrounded by absolute beauty in the peak district, Sheffield is similar.

No doubt about it....there are parts of Stoke which are a right dump. It's had a very hard time as a city and a chronic lack of investment. But equally there are parts of London, Manchester, Bristol, Sheffield and Birmingham that make Stoke look like Mecca. However it's surrounded by some really nice places. I'm about 6 miles from the roaches and the start of the peak district.

It was the poster's assumption that we all live in a coal tip and would rather be anywhere else.

 

[cookiemonster]

Wait until Sheffield Wednesday are to play at TNL, I have already created the text which will keep you awake grinding your teeth. That's a promise.

BTW Thanks for your reply that included the main points of my post: > El Glosico, Gloucestershire derby, lifeless Cheltenham. Cheers.
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Stroud, you are simply trolling other members now. And trolling we can do without.

 

[valefan16]

I am not from Stoke-on-Trent but obviously spent fair amount of time there and its alright, typical former industrial city but has changed a lot in the 20 years or so I have been going Vale with development and as said you have some absolutely stunning scenery around with the Peaks, Moorlands and Mow Cop, people are top notch and will chat to anyone... just don't mention football as its quite partisan.

Gets unfair stick for me, my nearest city is Leicester or Derby and both equally have dire areas and some decent places.

 

[Stroud]

Stroud, you are simply trolling other members now. And trolling we can do without.

On the contrary, they are trolling me. All I'm doing is responding and I offer no apology for doing so.

 

[Bartonyellow]

I am not from Stoke-on-Trent but obviously spent fair amount of time there and its alright, typical former industrial city but has changed a lot in the 20 years or so I have been going Vale with development and as said you have some absolutely stunning scenery around with the Peaks, Moorlands and Mow Cop, people are top notch and will chat to anyone... just don't mention football as its quite partisan.

Gets unfair stick for me, my nearest city is Leicester or Derby and both equally have dire areas and some decent places.

Derby is better for shopping food and bars though - Hanley is a dump. I worked there for a year and it was full of smackheads and beggars. Most places boarded up and no decent restaurants ( derby has friar gate and Sadler gate in the cathedral quarter )
Leicester I can’t comment on.
Stokies are pretty decent people though - hard working and honest.
Not as nice as us Burtonians though…

 

[valefan16]

Derby is better for shopping food and bars though - Hanley is a dump. I worked there for a year and it was full of smackheads and beggars. Most places boarded up and no decent restaurants ( derby has friar gate and Sadler gate in the cathedral quarter )
Leicester I can’t comment on.
Stokies are pretty decent people though - hard working and honest.
Not as nice as us Burtonians though…

No the centre isn't great in fairness, although its a quirky one as its basically a load of towns that merged to form the city.

Leicester always had virtually nothing going for it or any real historical significance but in fairness has seen a huge boost when they found Old Richard in the car park!

Let's be honest though very few Cities in England are great to look at, the price we paid for being the first Industrial super power I guess!

 

[leedsvaliant]

Derby is better for shopping food and bars though - Hanley is a dump. I worked there for a year and it was full of smackheads and beggars. Most places boarded up and no decent restaurants ( derby has friar gate and Sadler gate in the cathedral quarter )
Leicester I can’t comment on.
Stokies are pretty decent people though - hard working and honest.
Not as nice as us Burtonians though…

Yeah. Hanley is a dump. Unfortunately they started coming up with ideas for a new shopping/eating complex to replace the old bus station at completely the wrong time. Just as physical retail was dying on its arse. Then big stores like Debenhams, Next, Marks and Spencer either went bump or moved to out of town retail. What you're left with now is a load of cheap shops, a shopping centre with very few shops in it and a load of smack heads. There's plans for an indoor arena and leisure area but we've been here before....the theatre is great though!

We've had investment in new hotels, car parks and office space, but very little has been done to attract people to the city for leisure. Meanwhile, places like Nottingham, Derby, Bristol had a progressive council that threw loads of money at it.

For some reason they've started work on a huge complex around the train station with eateries etc. It's 2 miles away from the city centre!

 

[Gassy]

Blimey you've got a chip on your shoulder. Did a Stoke lad have his way with your missus?

I like Bristol as a city but I wouldn't want to live there. I live on the edge of the peak district and it's some of the most amazing countryside in the UK...not everybody who is from Stoke lives in a pot bank.

A city is made by its people and you couldn't find friendlier down to earth people than those from Stoke....even those with money. If you go to Clifton everyone thinks they're living in Knightsbridge or something.

Ha I think he was just a bit of banter mate..

Bristol is a great city tbf but I’d probably prefer to live in Bath tbh. Only been to Stoke once to pick up a car many years ago, drove through and it was a dump - but it could have just been that area for all I know. Peak District is obviously fantastic though.

As for Clifton, no surprise.. have you seen the prices?!

 

[UppaTowen_ITFC]

El Glosico
While checking out the derby game between the two Gloucestershire League 1 teams on YouTube I came across this video of game by a Cheltenham Vlogger.

At 5min 8 seconds the Cheltenham crowd are ribbing a fan who was being evicted from ground, not realising he was one of their own who had infiltrated the FGR home area.
Actually it was a fair assessment of game and the Vlogger should be complemented.

Genuinely based on the video you linked... this looks like the shittest atmosphere for a derby I’ve ever seen. Even for the goal most of the FG fans are just standing there clapping bar a hundred of the kids behind the goal who at least gave it a proper celebration. It’s supposedly the biggest game FGR a will have and that’s the celebration? Piss poor from both teams and I’m now classifying the El Glossico (as if I’ve now used that poxy name) as the worst derby in English football.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Genuinely based on the video you linked... this looks like the shittest atmosphere for a derby I’ve ever seen. Even for the goal most of the FG fans are just standing there clapping bar a hundred of the kids behind the goal who at least gave it a proper celebration. It’s supposedly the biggest game FGR a will have and that’s the celebration? Piss poor from both teams and I’m now classifying the El Glossico (as if I’ve now used that poxy name) as the worst derby in English football.

It's not a derby, like Norwich v Ipswich isn't

 

[Laker]

For what it’s worth, my girlfriend (now wife) went to uni at Keele nearly 20 years ago and lived in Newcastle under Lyme and I visited loads. It was a great little town, I used to love walking around there. Dead cheap, loads of great little bars and shops. I went to Hanley a couple of times and didn’t think much of it.

I visited Bristol a couple of times as I had a mate at uni there who then stayed to work there afterwards. It had a cracking nightlife but that’s all I remember. Bath was nicer from memory but had the worst traffic system and the hill to the uni was a bitch.

 

[Laker]

It's not a derby, like Norwich v Ipswich isn't

I’ve just got to a stage where it’s easier to agree to disagree with this.

 

[Stroud]

Genuinely based on the video you linked... this looks like the shittest atmosphere for a derby I’ve ever seen. Even for the goal most of the FG fans are just standing there clapping bar a hundred of the kids behind the goal who at least gave it a proper celebration. It’s supposedly the biggest game FGR a will have and that’s the celebration? Piss poor from both teams and I’m now classifying the El Glossico (as if I’ve now used that poxy name) as the worst derby in English football.

Can't and won't disagree.

 

[Stroud]

Cheltenham v FGR is a local game - at the moment it is the closest thing Cheltenham fans have to a local derby/rivalry so the younger ones have latched onto it. To anyone around my age and have been following the club for the last 25-30 years, it is simply a local game. Our derby is Gloucester City for more reasons than I care to get into again, but the short and long of it is that it runs deeper than football. Whilst we're not a same-city derby, the two conurbations are so close to pretty much be one. As many people in Gloucester travel to Cheltenham for work, etc... and vice-versa.

Before Dale Vince, myself and a number of other Cheltenham fans used to travel over to FGR to watch them if we couldn't make the Cheltenham game that day (if they were away and I had plans in the evening, for example). I cannot hate a team that I used to wish well and, not only that, actually own a shirt of (the green Smiths one from the 07/08 season). I don't hate FGR, they are not our big derby, no matter how much you want it to be so. I didn't go yesterday, and have no intention of attending a game at TNL any time in the near future. If we're playing Gloucester though, I'm there like a shot - that's the difference.

That FGR couldn't even muster 3,000 home fans for a "derby" indicates that a lot of their fans don't consider it one either.

Forget anything Wade Elliott says, it's irrelevant to the conversation. He's been at Cheltenham 2 and a half years and probably knows nothing about Gloucester City and our traditional rivalry with them.

Finally, as you keep mentioning it, don't forget the origins of :sigh: El Glosico :sigh: - it was for an FA Cup game between FGR and Gloucester City. That it stuck for a completely different game is embarrassing to everyone - even Jon Palmer apologised to me on our podcast for his use of it.

That's it now - I'm done on the matter. I will say no more other than to talk about the game itself in April.

Si,
You are a King Canute type figure trying to turn back the clock. El Glosico is now embedded in football folklore as match between Forest Green Rovers and Cheltenham Town. To claim otherwise, as you regularly do, is hogwash and reason for my passion that your negative vibes are dismissed.
As you said your own reporter reported the game as El Glosico until you bullied him into cease doing so as you are also trying to bully me for same reason.

I’m not sure how the name El Glosico originated but know it was made in homage to El Clasico: - Barcelona v Real Madrid. According to Si FGR may have been late getting to the party but they have a better than excellent reason to have El Glosico attached to its name concerning the derby match against Cheltenham – below is the FGR club badge b4 2011, probably adapted from Barcelona (right).

 

[denzel ecfc]

I’ve just got to a stage where it’s easier to agree to disagree with this.

Or ignore it

 

[Si Robin]

EDIT: Ignore

 

[leedsvaliant]

For what it’s worth, my girlfriend (now wife) went to uni at Keele nearly 20 years ago and lived in Newcastle under Lyme and I visited loads. It was a great little town, I used to love walking around there. Dead cheap, loads of great little bars and shops. I went to Hanley a couple of times and didn’t think much of it.

I visited Bristol a couple of times as I had a mate at uni there who then stayed to work there afterwards. It had a cracking nightlife but that’s all I remember. Bath was nicer from memory but had the worst traffic system and the hill to the uni was a bitch.

Yeah. I used to work in Newcastle under Lyme and had some good nights out there. That place has seriously declined too though now unfortunately.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Si,
You are a King Canute type figure trying to turn back the clock. El Glosico is now embedded in football folklore as match between Forest Green Rovers and Cheltenham Town. To claim otherwise, as you regularly do, is hogwash and reason for my passion that your negative vibes are dismissed.
As you said your own reporter reported the game as El Glosico until you bullied him into cease doing so as you are also trying to bully me for same reason.

I’m not sure how the name El Glosico originated but know it was made in homage to El Clasico: - Barcelona v Real Madrid. According to Si FGR may have been late getting to the party but they have a better than excellent reason to have El Glosico attached to its name concerning the derby match against Cheltenham – below is the FGR club badge b4 2011, probably adapted from Barcelona (right).
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Someone stop this c***, I'll pay good money, honest money, shouldn't be too difficult, he's likely mid 60s, lives in his mums house though she's dead in the chair she's been in since 2009 but he still calls her mother. He will likely be wearing a cardigan and corduroy trousers with his Wynsor cheap shoes.