Saturday 25th Matchday Thread

[EricSabin]

Just watched the 2 minute highlights of our game, we've battered them whilst playing some gorgeous football. Good stuff.

 

[Son of Cod]

Reflecting on the result yesterday, it's annoying that we played well for substantial parts of matches against arguably the best two teams in the division and only come out of the last three games with two points. Five points would have been a nice haul from that little run, but two just doesn't seem to do the effort exerted justice. Admittedly it sounded like we deserved nothing yesterday, so we only have ourselves to blame. Need to get our first home win under our belts against Yeovil next weekend but I think it will tricky match.

Think we’ll be appealing it because it’s never a red card.

Not sure we will, as it'll only be a one match ban and losing the appeal would bump it up to two I think.

 

[Brooksy]

Reflecting on the result yesterday, it's annoying that we played well for substantial parts of matches against arguably the best two teams in the division and only come out of the last three games with two points. Five points would have been a nice haul from that little run, but two just doesn't seem to do the effort exerted justice. Admittedly it sounded like we deserved nothing yesterday, so we only have ourselves to blame. Need to get our first home win under our belts against Yeovil next weekend but I think it will tricky match.


Not sure we will, as it'll only be a one match ban and losing the appeal would bump it up to two I think.

You have to appeal that one surely? Having had a look at the highlights it looked much less clear cut than it did live.

 

[Son of Cod]

You have to appeal that one surely? Having had a look at the highlights it looked much less clear cut than it did live.

If it's a three match ban then yeah I would appeal, but for a one match ban, I'm not sure I'd risk lengthening it. Thomas isn't match fit yet anyway so I reckon he'd have been on the bench next week and then starting next midweek in the Checkatrade for the first time anyway.

 

[PaulHaddock]

If it's a three match ban then yeah I would appeal, but for a one match ban, I'm not sure I'd risk lengthening it. Thomas isn't match fit yet anyway so I reckon he'd have been on the bench next week and then starting next midweek in the Checkatrade for the first time anyway.

It was a straight red so it would be 3 matches.

 

[Impish]

GG taking out SOC in true Golovkin style smart & concise beats jealous & bitter every time!

 

[Vanni]

I see your Crawley and raise you a Swindon.

That's a good shout actually, but I was thinking more of the mid-table/lower mid/bottom four sides. I mean, it's not really a surprise when Swindon beat a fellow top side as they do have a decent squad, while otoh Crawley's squad is only average on paper. Not that beating Bury at home is surprising in any way, but I find them lot totally unpredictable (as are loads of other L2 clubs tbf, but I reckon they're top of the pile for unpredictability).

 

[Son of Cod]

It was a straight red so it would be 3 matches.

Depends what it was for. Wan Bisakka had a straight red against Liverpool and is back next week.

 

[Vanni]

Just watched the Newport Grimsby highlights. No way is that a red card, even a yellow would've been harsh. Secondly, perhaps McKeown should've done better for Newport's goal?

 

[Deepcut Cobbler]

Disappointingly we were well off the pace today, but credit to Northampton too who looked decent. They were quicker to the ball, stronger, brushed us off with ease and threatening going forward. Should really have been two up by half-time, deserved the lead when it came and we never then created too much of note after the opening goal.

It was always going to happen after the other night!

What was all that about not giving the ball back after we had kicked it out for an injury and then the drop ball, kicking it into touch down by the corner flag instead of to our keeper? Doing something like that once, but twice? Embarrassing!

 

[PaulHaddock]

Just watched the Newport Grimsby highlights. No way is that a red card, even a yellow would've been harsh. Secondly, perhaps McKeown should've done better for Newport's goal?

Agreed and yes, McKeown has never done well with free kicks but I’d have expected him to at least make an attempt. About summed up our performance yesterday.

 

[PaulHaddock]

Depends what it was for. Wan Bisakka had a straight red against Liverpool and is back next week.

Didn’t know that. But if Rose managed to get a 3-game ban, I’d have expected Thomas to get the same. Though hopefully sense prevails and it’s overturned.

 

[pontoonlew]

I'm absolutely fine mate, couldn't be better. Loony pontoonlew says we're shit and overrated cos we drew one game. I suppose it's just 'banter' though...

If we get picked on expect us to gloat when we do well.

You lot might be the biggest babies in Internet forum history.

‘Grimsby fans say Lincoln played shite in a game in which Lincoln played shite and now it’s not fair cos you are picking on us waaaaaa’

For the record, as a club who spent a fairly lengthy period of time in the Championship, I wouldn’t ‘die’ to be top of league 2.

 

[GodsGift]

You lot might be the biggest babies in Internet forum history.

‘Grimsby fans say Lincoln played shite in a game in which Lincoln played shite and now it’s not fair cos you are picking on us waaaaaa’

For the record, as a club who spent a fairly lengthy period of time in the Championship, I wouldn’t ‘die’ to be top of league 2.

That's all you've got though, isn't it? Your history? Right now you'd love to have our momentum and fanbase, admit it. Let's be honest you'll never experience such unity with John Fenty in charge, that must be hard to take.

 

[Son of Cod]

That's all you've got though, isn't it? Your history? Right now you'd love to have our momentum and fanbase, admit it. Let's be honest you'll never experience such unity with John Fenty in charge, that must be hard to take.

Fucking hell. Give us a list of everything you want us to admit to then, we'll do it all in one go and then you can stop asking us.

With regards to lack of unity with Fenty in charge, not really hard to take because we've been lumbered with him for so long. We know the craic. Things were great the season we went up, despite Fenty being there and despite not having a particularly great fan/manager relationship. The relationship between the players and fans though was superb. Couple that with how the fans rallied together after the Bristol Rovers defeat and it's clear to see that while a fully harmonious club is a great thing, it's not essential to achieving success. I'd genuinely rather have that positivity back than what you've got, as it was more of a fan initiated DIY build up of momentum. The only problem with that, as we discovered, is that it all comes tumbling down way too easily. What we had was a passionate whirlwind romance, whereas Lincoln have a more stable marriage kind of thing going on.

 

[wangle]

This thread is hilarious. Lincoln aren’t the nicest of teams to play against, so what!? Id rather watch a physical team that battles rather than one that doesn’t try. God knows we’ve had a lot of crap to watch. Yes lincoln are doing well, yes we’re doing well by our rather shoddy history, so why would you not expect lincoln fans to be happy. Yes other teams have a more successfully history than us. Yes lincoln fans love the Cowleys, but they are the most successful management team. Yes we’ll be shit again in a few seasons and decent whack of the fans will leave. Out of interest how do Grimsby’s attendance compare to when they were in the championship.

People are often a bit touchy on the internet. The whole point of this forum is to engage with fans from other teams and enjoy/debate each other’s opinion. Have a bit of banter and fun. Some posters are very hypocritical and mainly just need to chill out.

 

[Son of Cod]

This thread is hilarious. Lincoln aren’t the nicest of teams to play against, so what!? Id rather watch a physical team that battles rather than one that doesn’t try. God knows we’ve had a lot of crap to watch. Yes lincoln are doing well, yes we’re doing well by our rather shoddy history, so why would you not expect lincoln fans to be happy. Yes other teams have a more successfully history than us. Yes lincoln fans love the Cowleys, but they are the most successful management team. Yes we’ll be shit again in a few seasons and decent whack of the fans will leave. Out of interest how do Grimsby’s attendance compare to when they were in the championship.

That's all fair enough, but not what my issue is with the Lincoln fans is. Worth noting that this whole exchange came about after GG made a bit of a salty comment.

Our averages don't really fluctuate too widly. Probably works out around the 6,000 mark throughout the 90s when we were in the second tier for the majority of the decade.

 

[Gladders]

Out of interest how do Grimsby’s attendance compare to when they were in the championship.
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Since football started in 1992 in the then Championship our average was 6898 (which was our first season back), during our last season in 03 was 5700. With Averages around 4500 during our seasons in League 2 days before non league and last 2 seasons was 5269 and 4658. So not a huge difference and most would probably be the bigger away fans in the Championship

 

[pontoonlew]

I think our away attendances got better the shitter we got. It is comforting to know should things ever get bad again, our fan base wouldn’t just swan off to watch somebody else.

 

[wangle]

Since football started in 1992 in the then Championship our average was 6898 (which was our first season back), during our last season in 03 was 5700. With Averages around 4500 during our seasons in League 2 days before non league and last 2 seasons was 5269 and 4658. So not a huge difference and most would probably be the bigger away fans in the Championship

Hats off to all the fans for sticking with it! I was expecting you to have double the attendances of now, though I guess you were limits by the size of BP.

 

[pontoonlew]

That's all you've got though, isn't it? Your history? Right now you'd love to have our momentum and fanbase, admit it. Let's be honest you'll never experience such unity with John Fenty in charge, that must be hard to take.

Has somebody stolen your password, you’re being a big odd.

As said above, our fan base has remained loyal. The vast differences in your attendances over the past few years show me that when the going gets tough, the badwagon will get going, back to Forest.

 

[GTFCfish]

Hats off to all the fans for sticking with it! I was expecting you to have double the attendances of now, though I guess you were limits by the size of BP.

I remember when I was 12 or 13 we played West Ham here in the league on a Tuesday night and on a great run (part of the 6 or 7 games Dave Beasant was here) and over 9000 were there and I said to my Dad how great it was that finally our fans were turning out in numbers.
He just looked at me and said, it’s only because we’re playing West Ham Son.
Next home game our attendance was back around our normal 6000 or so, and my Dad was proved right.

 

[Imp in Branston]

Has somebody stolen your password, you’re being a big odd.

As said above, our fan base has remained loyal. The vast differences in your attendances over the past few years show me that when the going gets tough, the badwagon will get going, back to Forest.

We were often slated at SB for only averaging 2000+ in our six or so seasons in the NL whilst never finishing above half way until the Cowleys turned up. The going get very tough having to watch that shite. Grimsby had a far higher finishing position in the NL in a similar timeframe but only averaged 3000+ so that is not much better support than what we got in our more recent histories?

 

[GodsGift]

Has somebody stolen your password, you’re being a big odd.

As said above, our fan base has remained loyal. The vast differences in your attendances over the past few years show me that when the going gets tough, the badwagon will get going, back to Forest.

Just got bored and thought I'd throw out a few grenades. We had to put up with it all summer from your lot so thought it would be a good idea to give a bit back. It's surprisingly fun.

 

[pontoonlew]

Just got bored and thought I'd throw out a few grenades. We had to put up with it all summer from your lot so thought it would be a good idea to give a bit back. It's surprisingly fun.

You’re bad at it and it doesn’t suit you.

 

[GTFCfish]

Wes Thomas red card upheld (complete fucking joke) yet ban reduced by 1 game.
If a challenge like that is deemed a sending off then I worry for the future of the game, pathetic yet again from the FA upholding that.

 

[Posh Harry]

Wes Thomas red card upheld (complete fucking joke) yet ban reduced by 1 game.
If a challenge like that is deemed a sending off then I worry for the future of the game, pathetic yet again from the FA upholding that.

Completely. They have basically decided to back a new ref so his confidence is not destroyed early in his career. Doesn’t matter about the player and the club.

One of the biggest bottle jobs I have seen by the FA. Absolutely pathetic. I am fuming about this.

 

[pontoonlew]

Absolutely staggering decision, dangerous precedent set by the FA. Essentially admitting they were wrong but not wanting to admit it so giving us a token gesture.

 

[GTFCfish]

And the extra game he’s now available for is........
The Checkatrade fucking Trophy!

 

[Roger Stone]

Wes Thomas red card upheld (complete fucking joke) yet ban reduced by 1 game.
If a challenge like that is deemed a sending off then I worry for the future of the game, pathetic yet again from the FA upholding that.

Not surprised at all.
As I understand it the red card doesn’t get removed from a players record regardless of the FA panel decision. Dan Butler got a straight red last season v Notts County. Cheating little fucker Tootle went down like a sack of shit after little contact from Butler, we appealed and the auto 3 game suspension was removed. Red card stays on his record and Fair Play table.
The FA panel can do as they wish and meet to decide mainly on the suspension length. They can remove / reduce the suspension, increase it or leave it the same.
The fact of the matter from Saturday was that Thomas’ foot was high and it made contact with Forbes’ head, right in front of the ref who went straight to his pocket. Foot doesn’t need to be at head height and obviously a dismissal can be warranted even if the injured player is not in the eye line of the offender. I don’t think the angle the Grimsby fans had on the day or the one shown in the highlights gave the full picture.
Forbes wasn’t behind Thomas, he came in from the side and it’s reasonable to assume, from the panels perspective, that he was in Thomas’ peripheral and / or being reckless.
Not a terrible career ending challenge by any means but in today’s game refs will give a red.
I have some sympathy with the Grimsby fans but that’s more to do with the direction that the governance of our beautiful game is going - game is more like basketball at times not that I want 22 Rheads hammering shit out of each other either.
At the moment it would appear that Grimsby are being a bit dull. 3 reds in 4 league games. Welsh could’ve received a straight red on Saturday too for the 2 footed challenge on Bakinson who was giving him the run around. Seen worse get a red card. The Thomas and Welsh challenges give refs a chance to make a decision. Grimsby need to be more savvy.
Anyway pob lwc for the rest of the season. I’m sure we’ll get a warm welcome in the reverse fixture.