Saturday August 5th Fixtures

[Casey]

What about yellow cards for nudging the ball away at free kicks? Many of them?

We had two, possibly three ( he committed the foul) booked for kicking the ball away.

As I said in my match thoughts. Good. Long may it continue for both sides

I can understand getting in front of the ball and walking back, I can understand a throw into the ground in frustration. Kicking the ball away after the ref has spotted it deserves a yellow.

Casey

 

[Gunit]

Officially around 1800 home fans there, about 300 down on our average from the last couple of seasons, but tbh it didn’t even look that many.

Results haven’t helped obviously, but the general lack of communication with fans plus iffy at best ticketing system means a number of people aren’t bothering. If you make buying a ticket a pain in the arse, and you lose every week people will stop coming. The problem is you often get the impression Vince/the board don’t give a shit about the average fan, it’s all about the VIP/corporate areas plus advertising the parent company/ethics/politics.

Is he still interested enough to build the new stadium? Has work started yet?

 

[Chris FGR]

Is he still interested enough to build the new stadium? Has work started yet?

Progress is pretty slow…

 

[Gunit]

Looks good to go. Main stand needs a lick of paint and you’re done.

 

[Indian Dan]

You’ve already got 25% of Oxford’s ground

 

[The Jovial Forester]

All that wood we need doesn't grow on trees, you know.

 

[Ellis]

Progress is pretty slow…

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The shed in the picture will house all of you nicely with plenty of room.

 

[PuB]

Progress is pretty slow…

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Nice little cricket style pavilion on the right there

I love it

 

[Greenacres]

Looks good to go. Main stand needs a lick of paint and you’re done.

Maybe...but I would be a bit worried that someone might fall off the edge of the pitch when they try to take a corner!

 

[Indian Dan]

Is it easy enough to get home tickets for our game? Looks like I’ll miss out.

 

[Tinpot and proud]

For the first time yesterday I heard a number of people saying "Just stop Dale"...I know he isn't everyone's cup of tea, most fans seem to generally tolerate his antics, but is is the first time I have heard anything like that vocalised...it could be that there is now a concern amongst some that his behaviour, and public backing for groups like JSO, risks damaging the club.

Risk damaging the club risk ?? It’s irreversible now.

 

[saddler78]

Sadly as yourselves and the Northampton fans said he’s a bag of shit, tbh I try to give everyone a chance and not take too much notice of previous clubs comments. But from pre season it’s been pretty obvious it was a complete dud signing. I’m surprised our head of recruitment isn’t having serious questions asked of him.

Anyone that cries off a club after 6 months, feigning an illness that at the time was killing off people in the hundreds daily, before popping up at another club and playing days later, then poking fun at that club and the fans that had watched him be completely shit during his time, reaps what he sows.

 

[Less than a mile (WAFC)]

Its almost like globetrotting for your pre season isn’t great preparation for a bunch of 4th division footballers

Bickerstaff who came on for us on Saturday wasn't even on the tour. That says it all about the farce that was a our prep for this campaign. Big humbling for us. MK looked quality.

 

[Chris FGR]

Risk damaging the club risk ?? It’s irreversible now.

We own our ground, core support is clearly up on where it was 10 years ago and we have spent the last 6 years in the football league. So I don’t see a lot of irreversible damage to the club, the biggest issue is the relationship between ownership and fans. If that carries on getting worse then things will get difficult.

Personally I wouldn’t be against Vince walking away provided he doesn’t leave us in debt and a group of fans could take over. I know a few of our ex board members had some thought about putting together a consortium a few years back, when Vince was threatening to walk if the board at the time (who back then weren’t mainly Green Britain Group/Ecotricity board members). didn’t accept his changes to the share/voting structure at the club. Might mean relegation back to the National League but I genuinely think with the better community engagement and a bigger fan base than we had before we could now be sustainable and competitive at that level, which we weren’t really before the takeover.

 

[Tinpot and proud]

We own our ground, core support is clearly up on where it was 10 years ago and we have spent the last 6 years in the football league. So I don’t see a lot of irreversible damage to the club, the biggest issue is the relationship between ownership and fans. If that carries on getting worse then things will get difficult.

Personally I wouldn’t be against Vince walking away provided he doesn’t leave us in debt and a group of fans could take over. Might mean relegation back to the National League but I genuinely think with the better community engagement and a bigger fan base than we had before we could now be sustainable and competitive at that level, which we weren’t really before the takeover.

Outside of the clubs own fan base( and to be fair you are a decent bunch) dale is destroying any reputation the club had weekly.
And he will leave you with an irreversible bad rep all to fluff his wilting irrelevance and ego.

I’d be terrified to have an owner like him.

 

[Indian Dan]

We own our ground, core support is clearly up on where it was 10 years ago and we have spent the last 6 years in the football league. So I don’t see a lot of irreversible damage to the club, the biggest issue is the relationship between ownership and fans. If that carries on getting worse then things will get difficult.

Personally I wouldn’t be against Vince walking away provided he doesn’t leave us in debt and a group of fans could take over. I know a few of our ex board members had some thought about putting together a consortium a few years back, when Vince was threatening to walk if the board at the time (who back then weren’t mainly Green Britain Group/Ecotricity board members). didn’t accept his changes to the share/voting structure at the club. Might mean relegation back to the National League but I genuinely think with the better community engagement and a bigger fan base than we had before we could now be sustainable and competitive at that level, which we weren’t really before the takeover.

Looking at The Price of Football review of L2 clubs more than half your income comes directly from Vince either directly or indirectly.

 

[Chris FGR]

Very true, but even 40% of our current income would allow us to compete with the more traditional National League teams like Altrincham, Woking, Wealdstone & Maidenhead I reckon, provided we can keep a core support of around 1200.

 

[Indian Dan]

How about sustaining you in the EFL though?

 

[DippyDon]

Our match is a good lesson in why stats don't always mean a great deal. On paper it looks like we had the upper hand. But the reality is the complete opposite.

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Last season we didn't have too many consecutive poor performances. So hopefully we can start to put things right midweek and be stronger at the weekend.

Yeah the stats look like you battered us, but we were really comfortable I thought. We got the 2 goal advantage three times and then seemed to accept the pressure that you were throwing forwards, and it was pretty rare one of those 23 shots worried me, though the 2nd and 3rd goal you scored where good finishes.

You'll be more than fine this season. Saturday seemed more like a mix of everything (expectant occassion, wrong team, poor individual performances) along with us being excellent pretty much all over the pitch.

 

[Indian Dan]

Sounds like Stockport last year. Useless til Xmas and the Jan window then came on strong.

 

[dedwardp]

Sounds like Stockport last year. Useless til Xmas and the Jan window then came on strong.

Stockport were good from October.

 

[Chris FGR]

How about sustaining you in the EFL though?

Not sure we would, although I suppose Accy, Morecambe etc seem to manage it.

 

[Casey]

Looking at The Price of Football review of L2 clubs more than half your income comes directly from Vince either directly or indirectly.

We're so poor we don't even get on that!

Casey

 

[EnglishRed]

Very true, but even 40% of our current income would allow us to compete with the more traditional National League teams like Altrincham, Woking, Wealdstone & Maidenhead I reckon, provided we can keep a core support of around 1200.

Remember that when you're outside the EFL you get something like 1m less (solidarity payments), no academy funding etc.

Really hard to sustain yourself as a full time club on gate receipts (including a reduced away gate) , 5th level sponsorship and merchandise sales alone.

 

[EnglishRed]

Yeah the stats look like you battered us, but we were really comfortable I thought. We got the 2 goal advantage three times and then seemed to accept the pressure that you were throwing forwards, and it was pretty rare one of those 23 shots worried me, though the 2nd and 3rd goal you scored where good finishes.

You'll be more than fine this season. Saturday seemed more like a mix of everything (expectant occassion, wrong team, poor individual performances) along with us being excellent pretty much all over the pitch.

Absolutely. You'd have to be extremely one eyed to argue that Wrexham should have got anything out of that game. You were well deserved winners.

A mix of the occasion, poor preparation (US tour) and some unfortunate defensive injuries put us on the back foot. O'Connor in defence (needed him in midfield) and Palmer not starting were wrong decisions in hindsight.

I get the impression with MK Dons it's depth which might trip you up - there is a lot of quality in the first XI still. Eisa and Leko were brilliant. Williams too - annoying as he's a North Wales lad and ex Wrexham youth!

 

[Master D]

When we were losing to Grimsby in the National League playoff last year, MK Dons were 1 point from being in the Championship. We certainly underestimated just how much quality they've got.

Yes, I'm doing everything I can to justify our thrashing on Saturday.

 

[PuB]

When we were losing to Grimsby in the National League playoff last year, MK Dons were 1 point from being in the Championship. We certainly underestimated just how much quality they've got.

Yes, I'm doing everything I can to justify our thrashing on Saturday.

I heard Disney told you to do it to keep selling the brand under an underdog premise, before you rip the league a new one and win every single other match on the way to glory.

Fairytale stuff really.

 

[DearneValleyRover]

When we were losing to Grimsby in the National League playoff last year, MK Dons were 1 point from being in the Championship. We certainly underestimated just how much quality they've got.

Yes, I'm doing everything I can to justify our thrashing on Saturday.

To be honest it might be a blessing. A bit of realism can temper expectations

 

[DippyDon]

Absolutely. You'd have to be extremely one eyed to argue that Wrexham should have got anything out of that game. You were well deserved winners.

A mix of the occasion, poor preparation (US tour) and some unfortunate defensive injuries put us on the back foot. O'Connor in defence (needed him in midfield) and Palmer not starting were wrong decisions in hindsight.

I get the impression with MK Dons it's depth which might trip you up - there is a lot of quality in the first XI still. Eisa and Leko were brilliant. Williams too - annoying as he's a North Wales lad and ex Wrexham youth!

Depth is definitely our issue at the moment, but that should be rectified soon with 5 loan spaces left along with what should still be a competitive play off level budget for.

 

[Conker]

MK will definitely be up there, I think the opening fixtures will serve Wrexham and County well in the long term. The hardest thing will be coping defensively because it’s a better step up than people believe.

It can be difficult to get going, Stockport struggled a bit last season at the start.