Suits

[Saddlerrad]

Jessica's character is a little bit plain compared to the others, not sure whether it's the fact the writers never really reveal her weaknesses or get into her emotions, but she's a little bit cut off when compared to the other main cast. Harvey's still the man.

 

[Pyeman]

This was the best part of the season for me. Although Louis might seem like a bad guy, it is understandable. He makes one mistake, fixes it himself and still gets fired. Jessica definitely the worst for me, at least in the firm.

Interestingly, after I posted in the thread last night, I watched the next episode, essentially the aftermath of Louis coming back to the firm. I'm not sure how to feel about his utter hatred of basically everyone.

On the one hand I can see why he's so pissed off at Jessica, and to an extent everyone else. But also let's not forget that Louis was ready to lie to everyone else about his mistake, and the only reason he came clean was because he thought he was going to be caught.

I think it's understandable for him to be annoyed in the short term, but hopefully as the season goes on bridges are rebuilt. I'm not sure how much Mike and Harvey hating I'm ready for.

 

[Pyeman]

Just finished watching the final episode of the series. What I think is really interesting is how the show has changed and developed so much over the course of the season, yet I'm still enjoying it just as much as I always have.

The final scene was epic, albeit somewhat predictable. Very excited for the new series, whenever that comes around.

 

[Popeye]

Only just started watching Suits Jean finished season 2, fair to say that I have a fair lust for Donna, what a woman!

 

[Saddlerrad]

2 episodes into the new series and they have already announced on social media that Season 6 will start filming over the summer/fall and air in early 2016 I believe. Good. Fantastic show.

 

[Pyeman]

2 episodes into the new series and they have already announced on social media that Season 6 will start filming over the summer/fall and air in early 2016 I believe. Good. Fantastic show.

Where's the best place to find the new episodes?

 

[hodge]

I use couchtuner

 

[Saddlerrad]

I download mine, but try watchseries.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Not long caught last weeks episode. I like Harvey without Donna and Louis is one of the best, well acted characters on TV at the minute. I'm literally in bits laughing out loud at least once an episode with him. From what I gather 'Korsh has big plans to really twist things up'. I suspect that means Harvey leaving to own his own firm or something along those lines.

I just hope they don't persist with the Mike/Zane storyline where eventually, the dad finds out and causes all kinds of trouble etc. That would be rather predictable and boring. I like Mike, but he's turning into the new Jessica having such a background role.

Season 6 starts in early 2016 I believe, another 16 episodes. It comes marginally second in the ratings on it's channel in the US (USA Network I think) so I suspect they will keep it going for as long as it performs, which should be for the foreseeable future considering the high quality of the show so far.

 

[hodge]

I expect the twist things up will be to do with Mike, some interviews etc talk about how hard its becoming to keep Mike's secret under wraps etc his character will become stale and boring being at the level he is not being allowed to advance etc. The investment banking storyline should have gone on longer as it allowed more freedom with his character and the dynamic change between Mike and Harvey was interesting, it showed Mike more as an equal rather than an underling which is the role he has returned to. I can see Jessica leaving and Harvey being the managing partner, it a natural progression. Early in the show Jessica said she could see herself standing down in 10 years, well we're now half way there, her time is running out imo. Also I'd like to see more of Katrina again this season, badly underused character, have her starting to push on properly towards Junior Partner and move away from being under Louis.

Also won't Season 6 be this time of the year again, 6/7 episodes now, the last 5/6 in January time again.

Not a spoiler as such, just a returning character, put it in there in case no one wanted to know anything

Spoiler: Episode 4

Travis Tanner is back

 

[Saddlerrad]

Tanner is back tonight then, hopeful of another good episode - this Season has been excellent so far. I've seen a few images around on Twitter of Donna getting out of an empty bed...hope it's not Tanner as that won't go down. The whole Harvey/Donna storyline has been excellent, I hope they go full swing with it and almost turn them to enemies for a while until Harvey capitulates near the end of this series.

Anybody keeping up in real time?

Louis has been superb again, some of his one liners are quality!

 

[hodge]

I'd be happy for Esther to appear more on the show even as just a drop by to see Louis, very enjoyable character overall I thought.

Looking forward to Tanner's return though, great character and enjoy the episodes he's been in but feel we need to see him get a win for him to still be seen as credible opposition, Harvey can't just keep beating him and Tanner be seen as someone to be reckoned with.

Sadderrad as for the Donna pic I read this

Spoiler: Donna Pic

Apparently its part of a dream sequence that Harvey and the therapist talk about

I know they're friendly atm but sometime next season I want to see Mike vs Katrina in a case.

 

[Saddlerrad]

I'd be happy for Esther to appear more on the show even as just a drop by to see Louis, very enjoyable character overall I thought.

Looking forward to Tanner's return though, great character and enjoy the episodes he's been in but feel we need to see him get a win for him to still be seen as credible opposition, Harvey can't just keep beating him and Tanner be seen as someone to be reckoned with.

Sadderrad as for the Donna pic I read this

Spoiler: Donna Pic

Apparently its part of a dream sequence that Harvey and the therapist talk about

I know they're friendly atm but sometime next season I want to see Mike vs Katrina in a case.

Makes sense regards to the spoiler. I think Tanner has been relatively tough opposition for him in the passed, it would be nice for someone to have Harvey completely on his arse and only just escape with it later down the line. I'm sure they will have quite a bit up their sleeves to fill another 10 episodes in this series and 16 more next year. I'd imagine Season 6 will be the last, although ratings talk.

I was actually thinking they might pair Katrina/Mike together as part of Robert Zane testing that Mike is good enough for his daughter but the end of last weeks episode made me think that may be the last we see of him/her for a while. That won't be the end of her though. She's quite attractive.

 

[hodge]

Yeah like I said before I think Katrina was very underused while at the firm, would have been good for her to be Mike's rival at the firm in terms of ability etc like Louis and Harvey we always similar. Mike needs a rival at the firm, he's supposedly a law prodigy so needs some competition. We have to have Mike vs Robert Zane at some point though.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Yeah like I said before I think Katrina was very underused while at the firm, would have been good for her to be Mike's rival at the firm in terms of ability etc like Louis and Harvey we always similar. Mike needs a rival at the firm, he's supposedly a law prodigy so needs some competition. We have to have Mike vs Robert Zane at some point though.

There will become a point when Mike and Rachel nearly split up again, there's no way the attention of the storyline can be continually on Donna/Harvey forever, unless they have Harvey turn his back up at her and treat her like an enemy which could drag things out. It's suffice to say before the show ends we will have Harvey/Donna together and Mike/Rachel married. I'd like the show to go 'out there' at some point. Have Donna find herself a man, split Mike and Rachel up completely permanently. Just to see how things went with a few extra outsiders. Whilst the dynamic is great between the main 6 characters, eventually progression will need to be made.

 

[hodge]

I felt that Rachel should have gone to Stanford which split her and Mike up, have her appear occasionally in the first half of seasons which air around now ie university holidays so Rachel would be back around New York area, but missing during term time. I'd have the liked to see Mike and Katrina together for a while (a season or so maybe), maybe even Lola Jensen, would have been an interesting relationship given she knows his secret already, maybe even a return of Jenny. Such a good friend that Mike never sees her again after they break up it seems.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Well, that's the 5th episode so far this series that has seen me absolutely hooked, I didn't move an inch through the entire 40 minutes. Slightly surprised they they've had Tanner wind down his character a little as it will hard for him to go up against Harvey again in future. Don't be surprised to see the writers have Harvey and Tanner begrudingly work together on a case in the future. You can imagine them hating the idea and then it ending up with Harvey telling Tanner 'he's alright' after they crack it with each other.

Not enough Donna in this weeks episode though. I think they may have made Mike marginally too arrogant and above his station so far this series and that would be my only real critic so far.

Excellent series, I just wish there was a way to watch them all at once. Hate waiting a week between episodes.

 

[hodge]

I'd agree with that generally, also don't like the change to Tanner, his character was fine as it was. The epiphany of not wanting to work that way anymore didn't fit with him imo, hopefully they go deeper in a future episode as to why, Tanner coming to work at the firm down the line could be fun as you say if they work together and end up getting on a bit, mutual respect style.

Thing is if you were Mike in his situation, how he's done in such a small amount of time it could easily cause some arrogance, I expect him to get sat down by Robert Zane at some stage this season though.

My prediction for end of season is Jessica leaving the firm, with Harvey and Louis appearing to take on more and more I reckon she will either walk or be shoved by Harvey returning to his season 3 style of wanting to be top dog.

I don't know what it is but the Jack Soloff character bores me a bit, probably the character's portrayal more than anything as I like the idea of a senior partner making a move.

 

[Saddlerrad]

It just seems to make no sense at all unless they are planning on bringing Tanner into the firm at some point - which I actually wouldn't mind. I always find Harvey to be most entertaining when he has someone to come up against that can give him a run for his money, Tanner is normally the one. Perhaps they will, otherwise it makes no real sense to make a real threat look so weak, it gives him no credibility whatsoever if they come up against each other down the line.

Possibly, but I didn't like the way he charges into Jessica's office in episode 4 after Robert Zane had decided to settle with her. He then compared himself to Harvey and although they have alot of similarities, Harvey is still senior and supposedly years ahead of him. Keep him level.

I can see Jessica leaving, she's a bit part character really and since Jeff left she doesn't really have much of a say in anything until there's a problem that needs solving. I actually like Soloff, he looks smarmy enough to give people a run for his money and the character has played him very well so far. I don't think that will be the end of any issues between him and Louis.

PS - Being a suits lover Hodge. I was the number one showing tweet on Meghan Markle's twitter about 9 months ago having congratulated her on a Season 5 renewal, she favourited me and then didn't use twitter for a week or so! How's that.

 

[hodge]

Not talking to you any more

(about the PS)

 

[hodge]

Great episode, its been a fantastic season so far and this episode was the best of the lot. Just a case of judging what was in the promo for next week, hopefully it doesn't take too long.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Yep, probably episode of the series so far last week. The longer the series goes, the more I can see the big change at the end of the season being Harvey leaving the firm either to start up his own, or to take time away from being a lawyer. Ideally you'd expect him to ignore Donna/Louis after this weeka and blame Donna for Louis finding out about him and esther. It's been quality either way, so glad they have already renewed for another series, I suspect 6 may be the last, no reason why as viewing figures are excellent - but all good things come to an end etc.

I need the entire season to come online at once, not just in weekly episodes!

 

[hodge]

They need to sort out what to do with Mike though, as his character's point was completely right about the offer.

Big change from me last week, this week I really liked the Jack Soloff character, kind of want to see him work with Mike/Harvey more, think him and Louis would be a bad on screen combo.

 

[RavenBish]

Louis being put through a table is my favourite Suits moment ever I reckon.

Agree on Mike and Rachel, the whole thing was resolved at the end of Season 1, which at the time was cool but in reality it should've lasted a lot longer if they wanted a happy ending. A wedding's gonna happen at some point relatively soon and I guess there's a good chance of that not going to plan however. Bit bored of mopey Harvey too.

 

[Saddlerrad]

Well, that went completely off in a direction I didn't expect this week. I'm surprised they are coming after Mike and his big secret AGAIN - kind of stinks of repetitive storylines with Mike. I wonder if there's going to be a big fallout at the end of the season when Mike is found out by Robert Zane, they don't get married and Mike/Harvey leave to build a firm of their own - just gesticulating of course but Korsh has said that something big is happening at the end of the season and that would be big enough to replicate a comment like that.

Still a thoroughly enjoyable episode - but I wanted to see something less mellow for the resolution of Harvey/Louis.

 

[RavenBish]

Harvey forming his own firm has been on the cards since Season 1 tbh, it's the whole modern day Don Draper thing he's got going on.

 

[hodge]

I think the Mike storyline will come to a head at the end of the series, also getting a bit tired of face palming at Louis' actions at least once per episode.

 

[TractorBoys]

I'm up-to-date now. Harvey's character has persistently pissed me off throughout this season. He's still brilliant, but what an asshole.

Return of Mike & his secret, I suppose it's always going be a repeated storyline but hope they aren't just rehashing old ideas and dressing it up in a different suit (excuse the pun).

 

[RavenBish]

Someone finds out but they promise to keep it a secret eventually etc...

Yeah, as someone said higher up, I think it comes to a head fairly soon if the right person finds out - guessing that would be Robert Zane or Daniel Hardman. Hardman uses the info to take over the firm or something - which would also mean Harvey goes and starts his own firm etc... so many Mad Men parallels.

 

[hodge]

Hardman finding out would be fantastic, uses knowing the secret to make Mike stay at the firm as opposed to going with Harvey and pit Mike vs Harvey (yes we had it in season 4 but that was less about Mike being a lawyer). Harvey unable to use knowing the secret against him as he's the one who hired him so a straight head to head as a lawyer.