The BELEAGUERED Carlisle Utd Thread

[Carver]

Coming to the end of November and we are rock bottom of League 2.

The league table doesn’t lie. The worst team in the football league.

13 points from 17 games, -15 goal difference. And some people think we’ll be too good to go down

At least we’re looking much better now than we were when a certain shit goalkeeper kept on starting.

Breeze coming in seems to have given the defence more confidence than that useless waste of a wage Lewis ever did.

There’s more hope now than before.

 

[hellogregory]

At least we’re looking much better now than we were when a certain shit goalkeeper kept on starting.

Breeze coming in seems to have given the defence more confidence than that useless waste of a wage Lewis ever did.

There’s more hope now than before.

There has definitely been an improvement over the last 3 games. No doubting that. But it was from a really low floor to be fair.

Just think it might not be enough looking at our fixtures over the next pivotal month. Crewe, Newport, chesterfield, Port Vale. Really need wins from these games to keep in touch with the teams above, otherwise the gap may be too big come January like last season. But realistically can you see many if any wins coming from these games? Probably not. Maybe Newport but that’s never an easy game for us regardless.

My big fear is like last season we’re pinning our hopes on January while not shifting our arses out of trouble before then. Then when january comes the damage is pretty much irreparable. We’ve fucked up too often in the easier games and left ourselves needing wins from the tougher games.

I think we’ll go down sadly.

 

[Carver]

There has definitely been an improvement over the last 3 games. No doubting that. But it was from a really low floor to be fair.

Just think it might not be enough looking at our fixtures over the next pivotal month. Crewe, Newport, chesterfield, Port Vale. Really need wins from these games to keep in touch with the teams above, otherwise the gap may be too big come January like last season. But realistically can you see many if any wins coming from these games? Probably not. Maybe Newport but that’s never an easy game for us regardless.

My big fear is like last season we’re pinning our hopes on January while not shifting our arses out of trouble before then. Then when january comes the damage is pretty much irreparable. We’ve fucked up too often in the easier games and left ourselves needing wins from the tougher games.

I think we’ll go down sadly.

Well we’ll just have to wait and see but I am more hopeful of our chances of staying up after these last few games and with January not far away I have more faith in Williamson and the new sporting director to bring in the right kind of players than what Simpson and Abbot signed by wasting money on Lewis, Armstrong, Vela and giving Kelly and Wyke ridiculous contracts.

 

[hellogregory]

Well we’ll just have to wait and see but I am more hopeful of our chances of staying up after these last few games and with January not far away I have more faith in Williamson and the new sporting director to bring in the right kind of players than what Simpson and Abbot signed by wasting money on Lewis, Armstrong, Vela and giving Kelly and Wyke ridiculous contracts.

Has Williamson won you over then? As you were an advocate for getting more of a fire fighter in like Pete Wild rather than someone who will change the whole footballing philosophy.

 

[Carver]

Has Williamson won you over then? As you were an advocate for getting more of a fire fighter in like Pete Wild rather than someone who will change the whole footballing philosophy.

He’s mixing things up a bit more now tactically and as I said before, dropping Lewis was the correct thing to do and proved to be a significant change to the confidence of the team as there is more of a fight about them now since that Wigan match.

I’m willing to give Williamson more of a chance after recent improvements. I think a sporting director finally coming in looks to have helped too.

 

[hellogregory]

He’s mixing things up a bit more now tactically and as I said before, dropping Lewis was the correct thing to do and proved to be a significant change to the confidence of the team as there is more of a fight about them now since that Wigan match.

I’m willing to give Williamson more of a chance after recent improvements. I think a sporting director finally coming in looks to have helped too.

It was mixed up at Salford, but last week at Bromley and yesterday i thought we were definitely trying to play a lot when we had the ball. The players seem to be adapting to it now, making decisions quicker and more subconsciously. Breeze over Lewis is making a positive difference.

Still think the lack of quality in certain positions is an issue that may well cost us.

 

[Carver]

It was mixed up at Salford, but last week at Bromley and yesterday i thought we were definitely trying to play a lot when we had the ball. The players seem to be adapting to it now, making decisions quicker and more subconsciously. Breeze over Lewis is making a positive difference.

Still think the lack of quality in certain positions is an issue that may well cost us.

If we can keep up this solid unbeaten kind of form where we’re grinding out results it should be enough to pull us away from the bottom two because I really can’t see Swindon and Morecambe improving in January. Plus there’s always the chance of other clubs getting dragged into it, just look at how poor Bromley were and I wouldn’t bet against Barrow dropping like a rock down to where we are.

 

[Moonie]

If we can keep up this solid unbeaten kind of form where we’re grinding out results it should be enough to pull us away from the bottom two because I really can’t see Swindon and Morecambe improving in January.

There are others who I think may get dragged into the battle too, even if some of them seem clear of danger for now:

Bromley, Colchester, Accrington, Harrogate, Newport, Salford, Barrow.

Also, Tranmere have only scored 10 in their 15 games thus far. They're averaging fewer goals per game than we are. Think they'll pull away though. Fleetwood are stuttering but I don't think they'll fall much further than they have already.

 

[Carver]

There are others who I think may get dragged into the battle too, even if some of them seem clear of danger for now:

Bromley, Colchester, Accrington, Harrogate, Newport, Salford, Barrow.

Also, Tranmere have only scored 10 in their 15 games thus far. They're averaging fewer goals per game than we are. Think they'll pull away though. Fleetwood are stuttering but I don't think they'll fall much further than they have already.

With our resources it would be absolutely ridiculous if we went down. I think our team just needed confidence, belief and a bit more of a clear game plan to stop that awful run we were on of losing nearly every match and showing no fight.

So looks like we’ve finally turned it around.

Williamson will know more now about the players than when he first came.

 

[hellogregory]

Every time I’ve watched Accrington this season they’ve looked half decent. I’d be surprised if they end up down.

As for us, it’s a big month ahead. If we can stay in touch with the pack above, then we may have a chance of staying up if we get January right.

BIG fucking if though as our previous 3 transfer windows have been a disgrace. Hopefully the new SD will bring different outcomes, but I’m not holding my breath. We need to strengthen in so many areas. It stinks of last season.

At the moment we’re going down. We are the worst team in the football league and are deservedly bottom. We’ve been saying all season we can get out of it, yet here we are still in the same position. Too many gaping holes in our team/squad and drop offs in quality. If we aren’t too far adrift come middle of Jan, then we’ll have a chance with a good window. But at the moment it’s all pointing one way.

 

[Carver]

Every time I’ve watched Accrington this season they’ve looked half decent. I’d be surprised if they end up down.

As for us, it’s a big month ahead. If we can stay in touch with the pack above, then we may have a chance of staying up if we get January right.

BIG fucking if though as our previous 3 transfer windows have been a disgrace. Hopefully the new SD will bring different outcomes, but I’m not holding my breath. We need to strengthen in so many areas. It stinks of last season.

At the moment we’re going down. We are the worst team in the football league and are deservedly bottom. We’ve been saying all season we can get out of it, yet here we are still in the same position. Too many gaping holes in our team/squad and drop offs in quality. If we aren’t too far adrift come middle of Jan, then we’ll have a chance with a good window. But at the moment it’s all pointing one way.

We’re not going down because we’re just too good to go down and making the play offs is still a realistic possibility.

 

[hellogregory]

We’re not going down because we’re just too good to go down and making the play offs is still a realistic possibility.

If you genuinely believe that… Can you explain why we are bottom of the football league, if we’re that good?

 

[Carver]

If you genuinely believe that… Can you explain why we are bottom of the football league, if we’re that good?

We are bottom because of everything that happened before, but things are now taking a positive turn and the future’s bright.

 

[hellogregory]

We are bottom because of everything that happened before, but things are now taking a positive turn and the future’s bright.

Every single team in the football league is in their current league position because of everything that happened before now. That’s stating the absolute obvious.

17 games in we are bottom with one of the worst starts to a season in our history. The league table doesn’t lie, we are the worst team in the football league. And now suddenly after a win and a couple of draws you’re talking about playoffs. Its pure fantasy land.

 

[GTFCfish]

And now suddenly after a win and a couple of draws you’re talking about playoffs. Its pure fantasy land.

I presumed he was joking.

 

[GTFCfish]

Simpson and Abbot signed by wasting money on Lewis, Armstrong, Vela and giving Kelly and Wyke ridiculous contracts.

Carver - The gift that keeps on giving.

Why would we be? And by the way you are struggling without Harry Lewis now not just for his goalkeeping skills but his character too.

Well we signed Luke Armstrong AND YOU DIDN'T!

And from what we have seen of him since he came here is he's shown that he's the best player outside of the Championship.

We're live on Skysports at Derby 12.30 kick off today and you can expect to see what supreme quality we'll bring to L2 next season .

So look out for our exceptional goalkeeper Lewis who Bradford still lose sleep over losing to us, a rock solid defence and a blistering attack led by the serious goal threat that is Luke Armstrong who Wrexham still can only think, what if?

I'm sure some players such as Armstrong, Lewis and possibly a couple of others will up their game with new better players and characters around them like Aaron Hayden etc.

you stupidly released your best defender on a free who we then signed and also missed out on Armstrong to us who is a proper marquee signing,

We ended up paying something between 200 - 250k for him.

He's been good though, I like Armstrong. Just hasn't been getting enough service but hopefully that will change now that we have Jordan Jones.

 

[lordofthepies]

Luke Armstrong - best player outside the Championship is a sensational claim, even at the time.

 

[Tallow]

I'm predicting we'll finish 15th.
Which will be brilliant, given the start to the season we had.
I've got massive faith in Mike Williamson getting us up to L1 in time.

 

[Carver]

Every single team in the football league is in their current league position because of everything that happened before now. That’s stating the absolute obvious.

17 games in we are bottom with one of the worst starts to a season in our history. The league table doesn’t lie, we are the worst team in the football league. And now suddenly after a win and a couple of draws you’re talking about playoffs. Its pure fantasy land.

Yes and after a win and a couple of draws with obvious signs of improvement you still bang on about how we’re the worst team ever and we’re on our way down as if nothing has changed in terms of performances and results.

Sure when we were hopeless losing every game I don’t blame any fan for looking down but there’s hope now so you can start to look up a bit more.

 

[DippyDon]

I'm predicting we'll finish 15th.
Which will be brilliant, given the start to the season we had.
I've got massive faith in Mike Williamson getting us up to L1 in time.

I can completely understand the optimism given we had it last season too... but that last statement made me laugh a lot.

Until MW can prove he has the bottle for the big games, he's not getting anybody up.

 

[BlackHaddock]

I believe the two teams at the foot of the table after 10 games usually get relegated, but I think Swindon and that idiot Holloway might change that stat this season. Carlisle will be safe this time.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

It is extremely rare to find teams who are this poor in the first half of season to rise back up the leagues second half…..can only really remember Donny last season and Blackpool all the way back in 2001. It’s madness to even think of play offs currently, getting to that 45-50 point mark is the target.

That being said you can usually always guarantee that one, maybe even 2-3 sides who currently sit comfortable in mid table or even top half will completely collapse in the second half of the season that almost always happens.

Is hope there still for morecamebe and Carlisle to overtake someone come the end of season

 

[hellogregory]

Yes and after a win and a couple of draws with obvious signs of improvement you still bang on about how we’re the worst team ever and we’re on our way down as if nothing has changed in terms of performances and results.

Sure when we were hopeless losing every game I don’t blame any fan for looking down but there’s hope now so you can start to look up a bit more.

I said worst team in the football league, i didn’t say worst team ever.

We’re bottom of the league over a third of the way into the season. So I’m perfectly within my rights to class us as the worst team. The league table isn’t lying.

If we can prove that we can string a few wins together, I’ll maybe reassess this view. Until that happens I can only go on what this team has proven so far and that is that is that based on how the season is going we are heading down to the conference. So far I’ve seen no where near enough to credit these shooting up the table and playoff claims of yours.

 

[GTFCfish]

So far I’ve seen no where near enough to credit these shooting up the table and playoff claims of yours.

Be careful using the words 'shooting up' to Carver as he's been clean since he last got out of prison but seeing you put that might cause a relapse for him.
If he ends up back in the gutter laid in a pile of his own piss then it's on you HG.

 

[Carver]

Be careful using the words 'shooting up' to Carver as he's been clean since he last got out of prison but seeing you put that might cause a relapse for him.
If he ends up back in the gutter laid in a pile of his own piss then it's on you HG.

Of course you’d know all about being in gutters and laying in piles of piss knowing what depressive town you come from.

 

[GTFCfish]

Of course you’d know all about being in gutters and laying in piles of piss knowing what depressive town you come from.

Great comeback mate didn’t see that one coming.

 

[hellogregory]

I’m enjoying being out of the relegation zone.

Got a feeling Swindon and/or Morecambe will pick up at least a point on Tuesday to leapfrog us. But while it’s here i urge all Carlisle fans to enjoy it, suck it all in, live these moments, as we never know when they’ll come round again.

 

[Moonie]

I’m enjoying being out of the relegation zone.

Got a feeling Swindon and/or Morecambe will pick up at least a point on Tuesday to leapfrog us. But while it’s here i urge all Carlisle fans to enjoy it, suck it all in, live these moments, as we never know when they’ll come round again.

The form table for November has us in 6th place. Could easily have been top of it, but for a couple of daft challenges and a relatively tight offside.

Long ways to go, but I feel a bit calmer about things than I did 5 or 6 weeks ago.

 

[hellogregory]

The form table for November has us in 6th place. Could easily have been top of it, but for a couple of daft challenges and a relatively tight offside.

Long ways to go, but I feel a bit calmer about things than I did 5 or 6 weeks ago.

This weekend keeps on getting better and better. 6th in the November table. Up to 3rd bottom.

Enjoy these moments, breathe it all in, milk it all as you never know what’s round the corner.

 

[hellogregory]

It’s been a wonderful few days. I’ve loved being out of the relegation zone, I’ve embraced it and throughly enjoyed it, but all good things must come to an end, and back in to the bottom two we go.

Hopefully we get another chance to be out of it, but if not then I’ll always have those 3 days and will treasure the memories