The BELEAGUERED Carlisle Utd Thread

[Carver]

I said a month ago that it’s the worst Carlisle United team I’ve ever seen.

11 new signings later and it’s still the worst I’ve ever seen. There’s a good argument that it’s getting worse. Results certainly are.

Maybe just maybe the head coach is the problem.

He's too bloody soft on 'the boys' and gets no fight or spirit out of them at all.

Everyone laughed at Holloway getting the job at Swindon but look what he's done for them, simple football and a bit of spirit gets results.

 

[hellogregory]

It’s a bit like being on death row this.

We know our fate, we know how it’s going to end, but we have the misery of watching it all play out leading to when the inevitable day arrives.

 

[Super_horns]

Letting in two goals after having a man sent off in injury time isn’t a good sign .

You’d at least expect to try and see out the game avoiding any more damage ?

 

[LS Bantam]

What’s the size of the playing squad after so many incomings? Will there be an exodus between now and tomorrow to at least try and balance the numbers?

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Squad size is about the same as man united, the plan is putter no 15 of them in wigs and calling it our ladies team.

The more worrying aspect is how many wastes of time are on horrible expensive long term contracts……similar issue I seem to remember Bradford had a couple of seasons back.

But all the players signed have previous history of being ok so if maybe they could find a manager able to install some effort, confidence and form into them we may not need a third clear out.

But Williamson has to go

 

[hellogregory]

What’s the size of the playing squad after so many incomings? Will there be an exodus between now and tomorrow to at least try and balance the numbers?

Quite a few have gone.

9 have gone, 11 have come in.

I’d expect one or two more to go tomorrow and maybe one more in.

At the moment our squad is at 32, plus a few first year pros.

There’ll definitely be some players that will have to be unregistered when we submit our squad of 25 to the EFL.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Let’s be honest HG it is irrelevant at present who goes and who comes in playing wise.

They just need to remove the manage and admit it didn’t work and realise we need a short term stabilizer then in year and a half they can maybe look at a project.

To have done a madcap project with a team with zero morale and a fanbase who has hated the whole thing from minute one has been madness.

We have had 3 entire full squads tried in the last 18 months to stop the rot, what we need now is one of them short term bosses who do very little long term and frankly you do t keep but you have for 12 months to just get things back organised, working hard and basic……something to build on.

Not an easy ask mind most options have gone, I’d feel very sorry for Morecambe here as they 100% deserve to survive more than us and it would finish them off, but thinking Adam’s may be the best managerial appointment for us right now.

 

[Optipez]

Forest Green signed loads of players and went through three managers last season, we did the same when we went down.
It's like the club just spins out of control with bad decision after bad decision.
Williamson did well at Gateshead and got MK straight into the playoffs after a good run. He's not a Muppet but when things aren't going well it takes a lot to turn things around.
Sam Allardyce was successful everywhere but took Notts down despite half a season and only 4-5 point deficit to pull back. Took us back up the next season though.
Swindon and Holloway are the exact opposite, everything has come off for him and them, yet Grimsby fans will tell you he was a disaster for them, which he was.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Am shocked it’s nearly 10 on Monday and he’s STILL in charge, surely they are not letting this circus continue.

Doesn’t matter how much is being spent if they don’t watch out the fans will very soon turn on the owners

 

[Stocky]

Sounds like he's gone.

Great stuff from the Carlisle owners, back him to the hilt, 11 new signings and then sack him on deadline day.

 

[jacobncfc]

That’s basically relegation confirmed IMO. You either sack him a month ago or you have to give him the season, can’t let the guy sign a whole new team and then do it. Horrible from whoever is running things up there.

 

[DippyDon]

Sounds a lot like the Piatek's have more money than sense, in the hiring him aspect, backing him aspect and sacking him aspect.

 

[valefan16]

Mad decision sacking him today on deadline day after letting him sign a whole squad, its as bad as us sacking Crosby 2 days after it shut last season and hiring Moore when he couldn't do any movement.

Hard to see how they will turn things around now as a new manager, plus 11-12 new players, working a new style and methods, usually need a pre season to get all that together so probably more weeks lost for Carlisle... and that doesn't include any time to find a new manager.

 

[kieran_vale]

Carlisle must be making some wild losses on this season with some of the throw shit at a wall and hope it sticks type of spending. Fair play to their owners if they can cover it but even so..

Best thing Carlisle could do and some might hate it is see if they can poach someone like Derek Adams. Someone like that is right for the situation.

 

[BarraMatt]

Would Evatt make the drop down? Still imagine he fancies himself at League One but it seems the Carlisle owners would have plenty of money to throw at him given the money they have spent so far this season...

 

[GTFCfish]

Whoever would have guessed that playing tippy tippy football in a League 2 relegation battle with a team full of losers wouldn’t work?

A - Everybody, except Carlisle’s board.

 

[spireite]

Awful decision making. Unless it's one of those situations where he isn't signing the players anyway, like the thing County do. That might be crediting the owners with planning skills where there are none though

 

[jacobncfc]

Awful decision making. Unless it's one of those situations where he isn't signing the players anyway, like the thing County do. That might be crediting the owners with planning skills where there are none though

Three quarters of them have played for Gateshead at some point, it must be him signing them.

 

[DippyDon]

Awful decision making. Unless it's one of those situations where he isn't signing the players anyway, like the thing County do. That might be crediting the owners with planning skills where there are none though

At least 2 that I know of were MK players/targets in the summer, so he definitely had some say.

Then there’s his old newcastle friend too in Dummett… I doubt he appeared on any scouting database.

 

[jojo]

This seems relegation nailed on especially on Deadline Day, absolute madness Sacking when they've brought so many in why not sack sooner in January which is so stupid, the New Manager has an uphill battle and I hope Carlisle are back in the EFL as soon as possible if you're relegated.

 

[hellogregory]

We’re down anyway. Anyone who has seen this team play can see that there’s no hope. Its about getting things in order and laying foundations for the national league next season.

 

[Big Bird]

Shame for Carlisle. Brilliant club. Looked pretty doomed on Saturday - we weren't great ourselves.

 

[hellogregory]

Awful decision making. Unless it's one of those situations where he isn't signing the players anyway, like the thing County do. That might be crediting the owners with planning skills where there are none though

The sporting director is responsible for signings. Williamson will have had an input but the signings are made with the sporting directors style of football in mind - same goes for him recruiting the next head coach.

 

[hellogregory]

It had to be done though, even if the timing isn’t good. 99% of the fans were done with him. Saturday was so toxic. They had no choice.

 

[Carver]

Yeah we're f*cked

I'm glad Williamson is finally gone, absolute fraud of a head coach, but he should never have been appointed in the first place and yeah should have been sacked a lot earlier. If only our owners had listened to MK Dons fans at how shit he was.

We're the absolute laughing stock of the football league right now and deservedly so.

There's a lot of deadwood that needs clearing out at our club which the new owners should have done when they first took over, can only hope they finally make a right decision in appointing our next manager otherwise it's God knows how long in the non-league for us..

 

[Tinpot and proud]

Would Evatt make the drop down? Still imagine he fancies himself at League One but it seems the Carlisle owners would have plenty of money to throw at him given the money they have spent so far this season...

Would that be a good appointment though? Very similar styles of setup…. The squad isn’t doing the job already with that.
Hes a name now for league 2 but not sure it’s a good fit.

 

[Carver]

Would that be a good appointment though? Very similar styles of setup…. The squad isn’t doing the job already with that.
Hes a name now for league 2 but not sure it’s a good fit.

To be honest it's not the style that was the main problem for Williamson it was the fact that he never changed formations or anything, he always stubbornly stuck with a 541 and never tried going with just 4 at the back playing 443 or 451 etc. It was clear that he had no way of motivating the players and just over complicated everything, had zero personality and no nous about him at all.

They would always give up after we went a goal down and because he never changed anything we were so predictable for other teams to work us out.

 

[DippyDon]

To be honest it's not the style that was the main problem for Williamson it was the fact that he never changed formations or anything, he always stubbornly stuck with a 541 and never tried going with just 4 at the back playing 443 or 451 etc. It was clear that he had no way of motivating the players and just over complicated everything, had zero personality.

They would always give up after we went a goal down and because he never changed anything we were so predictable for other teams to work us out.

This sounds very familiar...

 

[Dirk Diggler]

Yeah we're f*cked

I'm glad Williamson is finally gone, absolute fraud of a head coach, but he should never have been appointed in the first place and yeah should have been sacked a lot earlier. If only our owners had listened to MK Dons fans at how shit he was.

We're the absolute laughing stock of the football league right now and deservedly so.

There's a lot of deadwood that needs clearing out at our club which the new owners should have done when they first took over, can only hope they finally make a right decision in appointing our next manager otherwise it's God knows how long in the non-league for us..

No idea who your defenders were on Saturday but have a look at the total "non-effort" they showed for the third and fourth goals

 

[Gi Dalor]

I think it has to be Leam Richardson. Has a really good relationship with your club captain. Maybe even have Wyke as his assistant, if Richardson doesn't have his own guy. I'm not sure if Wyke is needed as a player. He couldn't really be on both sides. Maybe Wyke is the problem from a club culture side, but i doubt it.

It's a crisis. You need someone who can find out what's wrong and fix it.

Will Richardson want it though? It is a bit of a poisoned chalice given the probability of relegation no matter who comes in.