Things We Hate

[Aber gas]

I'm just a jealous, bitter chef who wishes I could be having a laugh with Phil and Holly or shout at morons for a living. I was on the news once doing some cooking but I'm not even famous in my own front room. So yes I agree bobbin celebrity chefs are terrible bastards.

 

[mowgli]

It's all very well for celeb chefs to tell us to eat well but that's down to money and what appliances you have in your kitchen.I got a cooker in January but had 3 years without one as i couldn't afford it.It's easy to spout shite when you're financially well off.

 

[T.A]

Not sure a tax is going to work. Sweets and chocolate have been rising in price and in some cases getting smaller in size for years. It doesn't stop people buying it.

Money being spent on education about how sugar can be as bad alcohol and cigarettes would probably be a better idea.

 

[smat]

He wants to incease tax on sugary soft drinks. I don't think it's a bad idea.

It's a poor tax.

The goal is to reduce obesity, but poor people are fat all over the developed world, regardless of how much they are taxed. Recent research showed there is very limited evidence to suggest that taxes affect consumption of food. Basically, if you want a Coke, you'll buy a Coke whether it's 49p or 59p. And that's common sense. If budget decided consumption, poor people would drink less Coke than rich people. But they don't, they drink more.

The thing is, sugary drinks are only one small part of the obesity problem. Poor people are fatter than rich people for a number of reasons. They're working too much to exercise, or they can't afford to join the gym, or they can't afford childcare so they're having to run around after their kids, or they're depressed and anxious, or they simply don't have the confidence - or the knowhow - to design a balanced menu.

I also read an interesting thing recently about pregnant women in poverty. The theory is that if mum is stressed, her foetus picks up on this and - essentially - develops as though it is expecting a struggle in the big bad world, which partly involves retaining bodyfat with a bit more zeal than rich babies. When food turns out, in fact, not to be scarce at all (the stress of being poor not usually having much to do with actual hunger) the kids simply get fat more easily.

So it's some nature, some nurture. And nothing to do with tax.

 

[Stagat]

or they can't afford childcare so they're having to run around after their kids

Well that should help them lose weight if anything.

 

[Stevencc]

Where the hell is Smat buying his Cokes for 49p!?

 

[Aber gas]

It's a poor tax.

The goal is to reduce obesity, but poor people are fat all over the developed world, regardless of how much they are taxed. Recent research showed there is very limited evidence to suggest that taxes affect consumption of food. Basically, if you want a Coke, you'll buy a Coke whether it's 49p or 59p. And that's common sense. If budget decided consumption, poor people would drink less Coke than rich people. But they don't, they drink more.

The thing is, sugary drinks are only one small part of the obesity problem. Poor people are fatter than rich people for a number of reasons. They're working too much to exercise, or they can't afford to join the gym, or they can't afford childcare so they're having to run around after their kids, or they're depressed and anxious, or they simply don't have the confidence - or the knowhow - to design a balanced menu.

I also read an interesting thing recently about pregnant women in poverty. The theory is that if mum is stressed, her foetus picks up on this and - essentially - develops as though it is expecting a struggle in the big bad world, which partly involves retaining bodyfat with a bit more zeal than rich babies. When food turns out, in fact, not to be scarce at all (the stress of being poor not usually having much to do with actual hunger) the kids simply get fat more easily.

So it's some nature, some nurture. And nothing to do with tax.

That's a great post smat. I think you're right about it being a poor tax ( I've changed my mind) . I also agree with you about people not having the skills or confidence to eat well. I've talked about a scheme I'm starting in the new year( in the meaty issues thread) im hoping its successful and can be rolled out to more food banks.

 

[GodsGift]

Where the hell is Smat buying his Cokes for 49p!?

Pub toilets.

 

[smat]

Where the hell is Smat buying his Cokes for 49p!?

I'm completely out of touch with the common people. How much does a pasty cost? I don't know, about £100?

That's a great post smat. I think you're right about it being a poor tax ( I've changed my mind) . I also agree with you about people not having the skills or confidence to eat well. I've talked about a scheme I'm starting in the new year( in the meaty issues thread) im hoping its successful and can be rolled out to more food banks.

Sounds really good, hope it goes well. I work for a Home-Start scheme, which provides practical support to families with kids under 5, and our impact on parents' nutritional awareness and culinary confidence is a really important outcome for many families.

 

[Martino Knockavelli]

I work for a Home-Start scheme, which provides practical support to families with kids under 5, and our impact on parents' nutritional awareness and culinary confidence is a really important outcome for many families.

 

[smat]

hahahaha i knew sincerity wouldn't fly with my cool friends

 

[Stagat]

Or Martino

 

[appletablepenny]

Independence NOW

Wind up shirley? Justin Fletcher is Mr Tumble isn't he?

 

[BlueBee]

People need to get out more and do some exercise not slob out in front of the tv or computer. When i was young i was made to go out so we played football or climbed trees. As for taxes on fizzy drinks what next,full fat milk,butter and chips? It's just another way for the government to make even more money from the British public. Lager is a fizzy drink so do we put the price of that up to £4 a pint everywhere? We are the most taxed nation in Europe as it is so we shouldn't be indirectly taxed even more.

£4 a pint? Tell me more.

 

[Pliny Harris]

Wind up shirley? Justin Fletcher is Mr Tumble isn't he?

Unbelievably, it's an OFSTED poster for children towards the bottom of this "British Values" article: https://www.childcare.co.uk/information/teaching-british-values

Honestly I'm no different to the next person in having a moral code, but I also have to nominate "British Values" for this thread. Vague, strange, jingoistic and not too tidy an idea to force upon anyone. I suppose it's a paper of appeasement waved towards the more xenophobic corner of the right to mollify them. I reckon that rendering of the Union Jack will annoy a few, though.

 

[r1ch1e]

Pens that smudge. Why do they still exist!?

 

[Aber gas]

Unbelievably, it's an OFSTED poster for children towards the bottom of this "British Values" article: https://www.childcare.co.uk/information/teaching-british-values

Honestly I'm no different to the next person in having a moral code, but I also have to nominate "British Values" for this thread. Vague, strange, jingoistic and not too tidy an idea to force upon anyone. I suppose it's a paper of appeasement waved towards the more xenophobic corner of the right to mollify them. I reckon that rendering of the Union Jack will annoy a few, though.

My wife is currently trying to work out how to teach this nonsense to 6 year olds.

 

[Reginald Fodstain]

Food poisoning

 

[HertsWolf]

Windows 10

 

[HertsWolf]

I wonder how many people with Windows installed on their computers realise that when agreeing to the EULA, they "grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content"?

 

[Pagnell]

I wonder how many people with Windows installed on their computers realise that when agreeing to the EULA, they "grant to Microsoft a worldwide and royalty-free intellectual property license to use Your Content"?

Not many. And even fewer will know that with less than ten minutes of tinkering you can opt out of all of that and remove every bit of spyware they have inserted.

 

[Pagnell]

eBay's website. What a fucking mess.

 

[HertsWolf]

Not many. And even fewer will know that with less than ten minutes of tinkering you can opt out of all of that and remove every bit of spyware they have inserted.

Interested to know how you opt out of a EULA.

And Microsoft officials have publicly admitted you can't disable all spyware they have installed.

 

[Pagnell]

Interested to know how you opt out of a EULA.

And Microsoft officials have publicly admitted you can't disable all spyware they have installed.

They mean through official means, but you can edit your host file (or use an automated application to do it for you) which will prevent your pc from connecting to every website the spyware reports to. And I'm not referring to opting out of the EULA, I'm talking about opting out (or stopping) them being able to take your material and use it as intellectual property. The following applications offer means of doing it all, including the removal of parts of Windows that you wouldn't be able to normally.

http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/destroy_windows_10_spying.html
http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/

And another site on it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Windows10/comments/3f38ed/guide_how_to_disable_data_logging_in_w10

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Yeah, Windows 10 is fucking awful. I have a touchpad driver on 7 which works perfectly fine, Acer aren't fully supporting windows 10 for my laptop, it says it's fully compatible with it though, got it, couldn't make the touchpad work (installed and uninstalled about 8 drivers...), I uninstalled and went back to 7.

 

[Pagnell]

I find Windows 10 runs far better on my four year old Samsung i5 than Windows 7 ever did, despite it being optimised for the latter OS.

Windows 10 is by far the best version so far in my view, it just needs a few adjustments to remove Microsoft's attempts at spying as discussed in my previous mail. I can imagine manufacturers not bothering to update essential drivers would make things annoying for those that attempted to upgrade. But, as much as I loathe to defend M$, it's not their fault.

 

[SALTIRE]

Food poisoning

Had a bout of that the other week, not good.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

I find Windows 10 runs far better on my four year old Samsung i5 than Windows 7 ever did, despite it being optimised for the latter OS.

Windows 10 is by far the best version so far in my view, it just needs a few adjustments to remove Microsoft's attempts at spying as discussed in my previous mail. I can imagine manufacturers not bothering to update essential drivers would make things annoying for those that attempted to upgrade. But, as much as I loathe to defend M$, it's not their fault.

Not blaming them, it's just annoyed me that I can't get it to work properly, my manufacturer is Acer though, and to be totally honest, I've had nothing but trouble with their laptops, won't ever purchase another acer if I can help it to be honest. They overheat and seem to murder HDD's like nobody's business. This is from experience of my 3 previous machines, including the one I'm on now. This is optimised for Windows 8.1 but fortunately, I've managed to find drivers and crap for 7 which is the only copy of windows I own, this may be part of the problem though to be honest. Most of the drivers I'm running are 8.1 ones anyway which work for 7 fortunately, but refuse to work on 10.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Another thing I can think of is that this install is on Legacy, not UEFI and I can't make it work on UEFI even when I install 10, it's bloody frustrating.

 

[Pagnell]

UEFI is the future, there will be no such things as a BIOS soon which will cause issues with a lot of old legacy hardware.