Tuesday 9th August

[Master D]

Coops cracking already then.

 

[DontBringBertie]

Am surprised they didn't go into the FL nearer to Essex TBH.

I doubt they had the opportunity after only 1 season in the Conference - think if Cowley had been offered a FL job he would have taken it.

If you get to the playoffs this year I think a few league clubs would be willing to take a gamble on the Cowleys though.

 

[Bluandwite]

Vine of Durrell's goal for us, outstanding volley - https://vine.co/v/5brpgH3Ytti
https://vine.co/v/5brpgH3Ytti
He was great last night, busy up and down the wing. Not sure where he was used at Wrexham?

 

[Steve_Wafc]

Vine of Durrell's goal for us, outstanding volley - https://vine.co/v/5brpgH3Ytti
He was great last night, busy up and down the wing. Not sure where he was used at Wrexham?

We said he'd be a good signing for you. He played on the left or right wing for us but was never fully fit, who's fault that was is a mystery. I would have liked to have played him as a no.10, but we never saw him there. Considering he was meant to be some free kick specialist as well, I don't think we saw him take one.

 

[EnglishRed]

Durrell started under Wilkin as a number 10. He showed flashes of ability but games seemed to pass him by like he didn't know how to play that role. He was a little unlucky as I remember him repeatedly hitting posts. Then Wilkin had his crisis of confidence and we started playing more defensively and Durrell had no role, amd never fitted in where he was tried. I always thought there was a decent player there somewhere, just needed persevering with. A good buy by Chester IMO.

 

[Murphy]

Vine of Durrell's goal for us, outstanding volley - https://vine.co/v/5brpgH3Ytti
He was great last night, busy up and down the wing. Not sure where he was used at Wrexham?

That is a disgusting goal.

You join the long list of clubs to have scored absolute belters against us.

 

[FrankTheTank]

Well there were some good signs on Tuesday.
Our defence looked better with a back four. KMB still needs match fitness but showed some good signs, Tubbs movement is a cut above (even if a couple of admittedly very tough chances went astray).
But we won't win this league with three attacking midfielders that can only win 10% of 50/50s - we'll get bullied and kicked out of games like Sutton did and weak referees will let teams get away with it.
Plus this Fabien Robert looks exactly the luxury player that Swindon fans have warned us about.

 

[Mark kavanagh]

Well there were some good signs on Tuesday.
Our defence looked better with a back four. KMB still needs match fitness but showed some good signs, Tubbs movement is a cut above (even if a couple of admittedly very tough chances went astray).
But we won't win this league with three attacking midfielders that can only win 10% of 50/50s - we'll get bullied and kicked out of games like Sutton did and weak referees will let teams get away with it.
Plus this Fabien Robert looks exactly the luxury player that Swindon fans have warned us about.

Be quite funny seeing fgr getting kicked out of matches after the way they played at pp last year

 

[JaredSUFC]

Especially when they were just as bad as doing it on Tuesday......

 

[The Reverend Skyblue]

Well there were some good signs on Tuesday.
Our defence looked better with a back four. KMB still needs match fitness but showed some good signs, Tubbs movement is a cut above (even if a couple of admittedly very tough chances went astray).
But we won't win this league with three attacking midfielders that can only win 10% of 50/50s - we'll get bullied and kicked out of games like Sutton did and weak referees will let teams get away with it.
Plus this Fabien Robert looks exactly the luxury player that Swindon fans have warned us about.

We had Fabien Robert on trial recently and Mowbray said exactly the same, a luxury player who puts little effort into it, so decided not to sign him thank the lord

 

[Chris FGR]

Especially when they were just as bad as doing it on Tuesday......

Eh? What game were you watching. All the physical stuff was coming from your lot, which the ref completely ignored whilst giving free kicks to you everytime any of our players sneezed. No wonder Coops was unhappy with the ref.

 

[FGRJC]

Be quite funny seeing fgr getting kicked out of matches after the way they played at pp last year

Still mad

 

[JaredSUFC]

Eh? What game were you watching. All the physical stuff was coming from your lot, which the ref completely ignored whilst giving free kicks to you everytime any of our players sneezed. No wonder Coops was unhappy with the ref.

Ha! No wonder you have a reputation on this board.
Ask our goalkeeper Ross Worner after Moore two footed assaulted him on Tuesday about FGRs physicality, for which Moore received a yellow card when he should have been sent off. Or Bedsente Gomis who was cynically fouled for our penalty. Or literally just before the penalty when Burge was hacked at not once, not twice but three times, yet always managed to retain the ball. Or Ross Stern who got plenty of kicks to the legs in the first half at least. Are we physical side? Yes, I'd never deny an obvious truth. But there is an imbecilic naïveté from a large section of FGR supporters about their own teams fouling the other night. Childlike even. On a Sutton perspective (not one I 100% agree with as it happens) the ref seemed to blow his whistle every time a FGR player went down or a Sutton player looked at an FGR player funny. And some of his other decision making was baffling. Conclusion he was poor for both teams.
As for Cooper he's trying to cover himself after a perceived poor start. Perceived as poor by the ignorant and disrespectful

If if only Dickson managed to make proper contact with Burge's last few seconds cross then the FGR meltdown would have been even more epic

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Ha! No wonder you have a reputation on this board.
Ask our goalkeeper Ross Worner after Moore two footed assaulted him on Tuesday about FGRs physicality, for which Moore received a yellow card when he should have been sent off. Or Bedsente Gomis who was cynically fouled for our penalty. Or literally just before the penalty when Burge was hacked at not once, not twice but three times, yet always managed to retain the ball. Or Ross Stern who got plenty of kicks to the legs in the first half at least. Are we physical side? Yes, I'd never deny an obvious truth. But there is an imbecilic naïveté from a large section of FGR supporters about their own teams fouling the other night. Childlike even. On a Sutton perspective (not one I 100% agree with as it happens) the ref seemed to blow his whistle every time a FGR player went down or a Sutton player looked at an FGR player funny. And some of his other decision making was baffling. Conclusion he was poor for both teams.
As for Cooper he's trying to cover himself after a perceived poor start. Perceived as poor by the ignorant and disrespectful

If if only Dickson managed to make proper contact with Burge's last few seconds cross then the FGR meltdown would have been even more epic

Would disagree about Moore, he was entitled to challenge for that IMO but your keeper was brave. Didn't arrive late though, Moore.

 

[EnglishRed]

Ha! No wonder you have a reputation on this board.
Ask our goalkeeper Ross Worner after Moore two footed assaulted him on Tuesday about FGRs physicality, for which Moore received a yellow card when he should have been sent off. Or Bedsente Gomis who was cynically fouled for our penalty. Or literally just before the penalty when Burge was hacked at not once, not twice but three times, yet always managed to retain the ball. Or Ross Stern who got plenty of kicks to the legs in the first half at least. Are we physical side? Yes, I'd never deny an obvious truth. But there is an imbecilic naïveté from a large section of FGR supporters about their own teams fouling the other night. Childlike even. On a Sutton perspective (not one I 100% agree with as it happens) the ref seemed to blow his whistle every time a FGR player went down or a Sutton player looked at an FGR player funny. And some of his other decision making was baffling. Conclusion he was poor for both teams.
As for Cooper he's trying to cover himself after a perceived poor start. Perceived as poor by the ignorant and disrespectful

If if only Dickson managed to make proper contact with Burge's last few seconds cross then the FGR meltdown would have been even more epic

FGR are NOT a dirty side. Definitely not.

 

[Mark kavanagh]

Still mad

After looking at the direction both teams have gone in since, one playing football, one hoofing the opposition im not at all mad mate. With our boardroom leadership all is looking rosy mate xxxx

 

[JaredSUFC]

Would disagree about Moore, he was entitled to challenge for that IMO but your keeper was brave. Didn't arrive late though, Moore.

Maybe in the 1950s he would have been entitled to challenge like that, but in the 21st century that's considered dangerous play. Add to the fact that Worner had the ball both in his hands and under control before Moore's feet made contact with him. I'm not saying Moore went out to deliberately hurt anyone, but his actions were dangerous and it was good fortune that Worner wasn't seriously hurt.

 

[FrankTheTank]

I agree that our players committed quite a few fouls as well, but none we're of the "I'll kick your players out of the game variety", more "oh shit I've given the ball away but I'm a fancy boy who can't tackle properly so will mis-time this tackle and trip you up, or clip your heals cynically" variety.

The point I was making is that quite a few of Sutton's fouls were deliberately physical and intended to intimidate (though some were just mistimed as well); and I'm not sure our fancy ball-players will be able to handle that if the referees don't hand out cards.

Be quite funny seeing fgr getting kicked out of matches after the way they played at pp last year

Agree that was our most cynical, overly-physical display last year but not a true reflection of the team.

Ha! No wonder you have a reputation on this board.
Ask our goalkeeper Ross Worner after Moore two footed assaulted him on Tuesday about FGRs physicality, for which Moore received a yellow card when he should have been sent off.

Disagree completely, it was a 50/50 and he was entitled to go for the ball. It was the keepers choice to dive on the ground and use his hands for a 50/50 ball, he could have gone with his feet and block-tackled. That's not taking away from the bravery of your and other keepers that do that, but I cannot accept that keepers should get special protection, it's their choice to go with their hands. If he'd gone with his foot, the fact Moore got the ball at the same time the keeper touch it would mean if wasn't even a foul, but because he went with his hands....

 

[JaredSUFC]

I agree that our players committed quite a few fouls as well, but none we're of the "I'll kick your players out of the game variety", more "oh shit I've given the ball away but I'm a fancy boy who can't tackle properly so will mis-time this tackle and trip you up, or clip your heals cynically" variety.

The point I was making is that quite a few of Sutton's fouls were deliberately physical and intended to intimidate (though some were just mistimed as well); and I'm not sure our fancy ball-players will be able to handle that if the referees don't hand out cards.


Agree that was our most cynical, overly-physical display last year but not a true reflection of the team.



Disagree completely, it was a 50/50 and he was entitled to go for the ball. It was the keepers choice to dive on the ground and use his hands for a 50/50 ball, he could have gone with his feet and block-tackled. That's not taking away from the bravery of your and other keepers that do that, but I cannot accept that keepers should get special protection, it's their choice to go with their hands. If he'd gone with his foot, the fact Moore got the ball at the same time the keeper touch it would mean if wasn't even a foul, but because he went with his hands....

Mate. Worner had the ball under control when Moore made contact. Fully under control in his hands, we were 1 down and he needed to make the situation safe, doing his job. I'm not disputing that attackers have the right to challenge for the ball but to go feet first when you see a goalkeeper is heading to the floor is at best reckless and at worst dangerous. Goalkeepers do need some degree of extra protection, it's a bloody dangerous job.
It's interesting to note that 'challenge' woke us up and we got gradually more competitive. Perhaps seeing what we were faced with in terms of what FGR were doing forced us to raise our levels of intensity

 

[Chris FGR]

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It's interesting to note that 'challenge' woke us up and we got gradually more competitive. Perhaps seeing what we were faced with in terms of what FGR were doing forced us to raise our levels of intensity

I agree that you raised your intensity, but that was after you realised our slick passing was ripping you to shreds. The challenge on Worner had nothing to do with it.

The main reason you got back in it though, which Cooper also said, was because our levels dropped and our midfield started losing too many 50/50's, maybe thinking it was all too easy.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Oh fuck off FGR, you bores.

 

[JaredSUFC]

I agree that you raised your intensity, but that was after you realised our slick passing was ripping you to shreds. The challenge on Worner had nothing to do with it.

The main reason you got back in it though, which Cooper also said, was because our levels dropped and our midfield started losing too many 50/50's, maybe thinking it was all too easy.

Or you're just not as good as you think you are

The challenge on Worner helped our players realise you were a slow bunch of chancers and we shook ourselves out of the rabbit in the headlight thing we had going on

 

[FrankTheTank]

Oh fuck off FGR, you bores.

What is your problem with JaredSUFC and I debating a disputed and significant point in the game?
Surely that's what the forum is for, not just here for the sake of dicks making bullish predictions and slagging each other off.