w / e Saturday 25th January 2025

[spireite]

Dobra likes scoring against us including at Wembley but doesn't end up on the winning side.

His feigning flopping antics were called out by the National League commentary team whenever we play. Tbh he put them in an awkward position due to his embarrassing antics. That's the problem when the TV cameras are there and slow motion replays are happily used.

I think you're referring to the Cedwin Scott thing, which Dobra really didn't help himself with the amount of time he laid down. It 100% distracted from the fact that Scott shoulder barging an unsuspecting player in the back as they're walking off the field is a real POS move and should have been punished. That should have been the talking point, but Dobra laying down for 5 minutes made it about him. Thankfully he's a lot less like that these days. Adam Virgo the BT guy just couldn't climb out of County's arse whenever we played tbf, can't stand the guy.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Why did peace loving Scott do the POS move that had Dobra down longer than a WWF/WWE referee after an accidental bump? Dobras antics every time he plays us. The hospital based memes afterwards were worth it along with that Langstaff top quality goal.

Glad he's no longer like that because you could feel Virgo's pain as a big centre half having to witness and comment on flop after flop from the youngster.

 

[spireite]

Why did peace loving Scott do the POS move that had Dobra down longer than a WWF/WWE referee after an accidental bump? Dobras antics every time he plays us. The hospital based memes afterwards were worth it along with that Langstaff top quality goal.

Glad he's no longer like that because you could feel Virgo's pain as a big centre half having to witness and comment on flop after flop from the youngster.

I think it was even Dobra pushing him, or someone else, towards the hoardings at some stage, which yea wasn't good. Genuinely the only time I've seen him do anything like that.

 

[Dan Phillips]

Let's just settle this without any bias, yeah?

Mitch Clark tackle - unlucky, but a red.

Tom Naylor tackle - mistimed, over the ball, but not excessive force or malice - yellow card.

Dobra's 'antics' - I must be the only Vale fan who doesn't even think he was anywhere near as bad as he's being made out to be? I'd say Sheckleford was worse, the fucking giant mardarse. Every time he got dispossessed, he was whinging at the officials. Everytime he conceded a throw-in, he was at it again. Proper baby. Just because Headley was tearing him a new arse everytime he pushed forward

Dobra didn't press Sang into a mistake either lol. He literally kicked it straight at him FFS. He had the time and space to just stick his foot through it and clear it down the field but decided to try and poke a clever ball through a non-existent gap. Without that, we'd have won the game because Chesterfield could still be playing now and not score, even against ten men. Never once worried me that we'd concede and they've barely tested Amos.

 

[saddler78]

Independent Saddlers Supporters Association

After reading the vile comments posted over the weekend. By a so called Walsall fan, As a group of honest and proper football fans We are going to do the following

We will be sending a donation of £150 to the Bradford burns unit To help support the great work they do

We hope this gesture goes a little way to prove to the fan base of Bradford fc. That no true Walsall fan would ever condone what was posted and where as disgusted as everyone else by the content of the post

Our thoughts go out to those who lost loved ones that day and we send our sincere apologies that we appear to have an idiot amongst our fanbase But rest assured his comments. Are not shared by any genuine saddlers fan

If any one is on any league two sites can you copy and paste this on there please

Dave olly beckett
For and behalf of the independent saddlers supporters association

I've been asked to share this on here I know the guy who runs our supporters association brilliant bloke does loads in the community.

 

[bantamjay]

Independent Saddlers Supporters Association

After reading the vile comments posted over the weekend. By a so called Walsall fan, As a group of honest and proper football fans We are going to do the following

We will be sending a donation of £150 to the Bradford burns unit To help support the great work they do

We hope this gesture goes a little way to prove to the fan base of Bradford fc. That no true Walsall fan would ever condone what was posted and where as disgusted as everyone else by the content of the post

Our thoughts go out to those who lost loved ones that day and we send our sincere apologies that we appear to have an idiot amongst our fanbase But rest assured his comments. Are not shared by any genuine saddlers fan

If any one is on any league two sites can you copy and paste this on there please

Dave olly beckett
For and behalf of the independent saddlers supporters association

I've been asked to share this on here I know the guy who runs our supporters association brilliant bloke does loads in the community.

Great gesture!

It’s incredibly sad that they feel they have to do that to apologise on behalf of an uneducated numpty!

 

[spireite]

Let's just settle this without any bias, yeah?

Mitch Clark tackle - unlucky, but a red.

Tom Naylor tackle - mistimed, over the ball, but not excessive force or malice - yellow card.

Dobra's 'antics' - I must be the only Vale fan who doesn't even think he was anywhere near as bad as he's being made out to be? I'd say Sheckleford was worse, the fucking giant mardarse. Every time he got dispossessed, he was whinging at the officials. Everytime he conceded a throw-in, he was at it again. Proper baby. Just because Headley was tearing him a new arse everytime he pushed forward

Dobra didn't press Sang into a mistake either lol. He literally kicked it straight at him FFS. He had the time and space to just stick his foot through it and clear it down the field but decided to try and poke a clever ball through a non-existent gap. Without that, we'd have won the game because Chesterfield could still be playing now and not score, even against ten men. Never once worried me that we'd concede and they've barely tested Amos.

All fair comments. Didn't notice Sheckleford, but you'd have been in a better position to spot that from where you were. Did I hear you booing Mandeville whenever he got the ball too?! Can't imagine what he's done, he's the most amiable footballer on this planet.

Agree we wouldn't have scored without a mistake. Vale are a very well organised and strong side. When a team is defending with everyone like that it's really hard to break down. I think Sang just didn't realise Dobra was right there when he's tried to be clever with it. We really didn't trouble your keeper at all apart from that. I think the annoying thing for us is getting caught cold in the first few minutes and conceding that goal, it set the tone for the rest of the game being a defense vs attack training session.

 

[valefan16]

All fair comments. Didn't notice Sheckleford, but you'd have been in a better position to spot that from where you were. Did I hear you booing Mandeville whenever he got the ball too?! Can't imagine what he's done, he's the most amiable footballer on this planet.

Agree we wouldn't have scored without a mistake. Vale are a very well organised and strong side. When a team is defending with everyone like that it's really hard to break down. I think Sang just didn't realise Dobra was right there when he's tried to be clever with it. We really didn't trouble your keeper at all apart from that. I think the annoying thing for us is getting caught cold in the first few minutes and conceding that goal, it set the tone for the rest of the game being a defense vs attack training session.

Not sure the early goal would change that much to be honest! This is Darren Moore We generally like to sit in away from home against possession sides and hit on the break, did it in L1 often with Sheffield Wednesday and their big budget too!

 

[loz]

Independent Saddlers Supporters Association

After reading the vile comments posted over the weekend. By a so called Walsall fan, As a group of honest and proper football fans We are going to do the following

We will be sending a donation of £150 to the Bradford burns unit To help support the great work they do

We hope this gesture goes a little way to prove to the fan base of Bradford fc. That no true Walsall fan would ever condone what was posted and where as disgusted as everyone else by the content of the post

Our thoughts go out to those who lost loved ones that day and we send our sincere apologies that we appear to have an idiot amongst our fanbase But rest assured his comments. Are not shared by any genuine saddlers fan

If any one is on any league two sites can you copy and paste this on there please

Dave olly beckett
For and behalf of the independent saddlers supporters association

I've been asked to share this on here I know the guy who runs our supporters association brilliant bloke does loads in the community.

Nothing for you to prove. All clubs are mainly followed by ordinary decent folk who enjoy sitting down with each other over a pint. Unfortunately, we also have a small percentage of numpties. That includes you as well as us.

 

[Dan Phillips]

All fair comments. Didn't notice Sheckleford, but you'd have been in a better position to spot that from where you were. Did I hear you booing Mandeville whenever he got the ball too?! Can't imagine what he's done, he's the most amiable footballer on this planet.

Agree we wouldn't have scored without a mistake. Vale are a very well organised and strong side. When a team is defending with everyone like that it's really hard to break down. I think Sang just didn't realise Dobra was right there when he's tried to be clever with it. We really didn't trouble your keeper at all apart from that. I think the annoying thing for us is getting caught cold in the first few minutes and conceding that goal, it set the tone for the rest of the game being a defense vs attack training session.

I think they were booing whoever it was that Mitch Clark fouled for the red? No idea why, and the subsequent chants of 'you don't know what you're doing' towards the referee, were laughable, given how obvious the decision was.

 

[Coalite]

I was also confused by the shouting at Sheckleford as it was Pepple who was fouled for the red. Mistaken identity or taking too much hospitality from the Derby Tup were obviously at fault.

Personally I thought it was an awful game.

 

[OneDecentLester]

I was also confused by the shouting at Sheckleford as it was Pepple who was fouled for the red. Mistaken identity or taking too much hospitality from the Derby Tup were obviously at fault.

Personally I thought it was an awful game.

It was an awful game as it often is when only one team has any interest in trying to play football.

2nd half I read we had 85% possession and Vale didn’t even have a shot. Now I know they had 10 men, but it’s only one man less, and if I was a Vale fan I’d be expecting a lot more than that with the money they’ve spent on that squad

 

[Dan Phillips]

Christ, you've posted some absolute shite just recently, haven't you? FFS.

Strange really, as on the whole, I've always seen you as one of the better posters on here. No idea why you've started posting in such a way, but each to their own, I guess.

We dominated the game until the red card. Now you're making out like we put everyone behind the ball all game. I'd be more concerned about your own side, given you apparently had 85% possession and could only score against ten men when you were gifted a one on one on a plate.

 

[OneDecentLester]

Christ, you've posted some absolute shite just recently, haven't you? FFS.

Strange really, as on the whole, I've always seen you as one of the better posters on here. No idea why you've started posting in such a way, but each to their own, I guess.

We dominated the game until the red card. Now you're making out like we put everyone behind the ball all game. I'd be more concerned about your own side, given you apparently had 85% possession and could only score against ten men when you were gifted a one on one on a plate.

When did I say you had everyone behind the ball all game? I specifically said, after your red card.

Also, you didn’t dominate the first half at all. Infact other than your goal in the first minute I can’t really remember you doing much else. Granted, we didn’t do a lot with it either, but on the whole it was a fairly balanced & poor first half overall, that we dominated possession wise as you’d expect.

My point still stands though, you got what you deserved in terms of dropping 2 points from a winning position because Moore had you sat on the edge of your own box with your striker playing as a CDM for the vast majority of the second half, basically waiting for us to get a chance, which in the end we did and we took it. 0 shots and 15% possession is pathetic with 10 men or not, but fairplay if you’re happy with that.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Regardless of who should of won, who did or didn't attack, who should or shouldn't have been sent off, who has most possession, or fewer shots on goal or who moaned or flopped or shit housed the most it doesn't sound like the Chesterfield/Vale draw was as entertaining for those in attendance as the Chesterfield/Notts draw earlier this season.

That was an entertaining affair with no real controversies, four goals and a fair result.

 

[OneDecentLester]

Regardless of who should of won, who did or didn't attack, who should or shouldn't have been sent off, who has most possession, or fewer shots on goal or who moaned or flopped or shit housed the most it doesn't sound like the Chesterfield/Vale draw was as entertaining for those in attendance as the Chesterfield/Notts draw earlier this season.

That was an entertaining affair with no real controversies, four goals and a fair result.

How on earth have you managed to make some posts about a game between us & Vale, about Notts?

 

[valefan16]

When did I say you had everyone behind the ball all game? I specifically said, after your red card.

Also, you didn’t dominate the first half at all. Infact other than your goal in the first minute I can’t really remember you doing much else. Granted, we didn’t do a lot with it either, but on the whole it was a fairly balanced & poor first half overall, that we dominated possession wise as you’d expect.

My point still stands though, you got what you deserved in terms of dropping 2 points from a winning position because Moore had you sat on the edge of your own box with your striker playing as a CDM for the vast majority of the second half, basically waiting for us to get a chance, which in the end we did and we took it. 0 shots and 15% possession is pathetic with 10 men or not, but fairplay if you’re happy with that.

Had Sang not made a catastrophic error the game plan after the red card almost worked to perfection so not sure why we wouldn’t be happy with it? If we go and play open a man down we probably lose the game.

We can mix it up, especially when our full squad is available and fit with the likes of Byers, Curtis, Chislett etc but away from home keep it tight grind out a result, best away side in the division currently so can’t really fault it too much.

We did the same at home v Crewe and again barring another catastrophic error from Cover we hold on, clearly we train for the situation.

Spend all the money you want as per Carlisle or MK but if you are not solid first and foremost as a base to build on you won’t get anywhere.

Possession means little if it’s in front of 10 men and not incisive. You had 64% at Vale Park and not a shot on target for instance so didn’t even lay a glove.

On the flip side Grimsby and Walsall we dominated the ball against statistically but lost both, one 3-0!

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

How on earth have you managed to make some posts about a game between us & Vale, about Notts?

Just trying to move it along or distract for your sake more than anybodies. You can overanalyze a game especially a fair 1-1 draw.

 

[OneDecentLester]

Had Sang not made a catastrophic error the game plan after the red card almost worked to perfection so not sure why we wouldn’t be happy with it? If we go and play open a man down we probably lose the game.

We can mix it up, especially when our full squad is available and fit with the likes of Byers, Curtis, Chislett etc but away from home keep it tight grind out a result, best away side in the division currently so can’t really fault it too much.

We did the same at home v Crewe and again barring another catastrophic error from Cover we hold on, clearly we train for the situation.

Spend all the money you want as per Carlisle or MK but if you are not solid first and foremost as a base to build on you won’t get anywhere.

Possession means little if it’s in front of 10 men and not incisive. You had 64% at Vale Park and not a shot on target for instance so didn’t even lay a glove.

On the flip side Grimsby and Walsall we dominated the ball against statistically but lost both, one 3-0!

I’m not saying possession football is the be all and end all. Nor am I saying you should have played with an open style after you went down to 10 men, as we’d have carved you open at will with the extra man so that would have been tactical suicide.

But, my point is, it just seemed excessively negative, like you had 0 counter attacking threat despite having players on the pitch like Headley for example (who looks a proper player btw), that would have been perfect to utilise to break on us at times to give yourselves a chance of getting a 2nd, and then maybe Sang’s error wouldn’t have cost you the 2 points.

End of the day you probably still see it as a decent point though, so I’m sure you’re not too worried about it.

 

[valefan16]

I’m not saying possession football is the be all and end all. Nor am I saying you should have played with an open style after you went down to 10 men, as we’d have carved you open at will with the extra man so that would have been tactical suicide.

But, my point is, it just seemed excessively negative, like you had 0 counter attacking threat despite having players on the pitch like Headley for example (who looks a proper player btw), that would have been perfect to utilise to break on us at times to give yourselves a chance of getting a 2nd, and then maybe Sang’s error wouldn’t have cost you the 2 points.

End of the day you probably still see it as a decent point though, so I’m sure you’re not too worried about it.

It’s a decent point in the circumstances but of course feels two dropped from us shooting ourselves in the foot twice.

It’s Darren Moore, it’s what we get with him that he is like that, very much Gareth Southgate levels of caution. Until New Year’s Day he had been playing one up front and a 5 back line with 2 holding midfielders at home to struggling sides like Carlisle for example!

When we are picking up results it’s fine but when for example the injuries mounted up and we won 1 in 10 then it was tedious!

Id like us to be more expansive against poorer sides but away to sides like Chesterfield/Notts/MK think he’s got it spot on.

 

[mozzavale]

I’m not saying possession football is the be all and end all. Nor am I saying you should have played with an open style after you went down to 10 men, as we’d have carved you open at will with the extra man so that would have been tactical suicide.

But, my point is, it just seemed excessively negative, like you had 0 counter attacking threat despite having players on the pitch like Headley for example (who looks a proper player btw), that would have been perfect to utilise to break on us at times to give yourselves a chance of getting a 2nd, and then maybe Sang’s error wouldn’t have cost you the 2 points.

End of the day you probably still see it as a decent point though, so I’m sure you’re not too worried about it.

Because we had something to defend, and bar a mistake, would have won 1 nil. Play any different, we'd have lost comfortably. Regardless of Money spent, we're Vale, not prime Barca.

 

[leedsvaliant]

Because we had something to defend, and bar a mistake, would have won 1 nil. Play any different, we'd have lost comfortably. Regardless of Money spent, we're Vale, not prime Barca.

Yep. This is the reason. If it were 0-0 and we try and sit on it, we likely lose. We were a goal up and have a pretty good defence, what would be the point of trying to get more goals. As you say, we may have a fairly expensive squad but these are still league 2 players. In this instance, I was happy with those tactics. Barring a stupid lapse in concentration from Sang, I don't think our goalkeeper had anything to do second half, which I guess is testament to the tactics.

 

[Dan Phillips]

Let's be honest here, if we'd have utilised those tactics ODL is referring to, and played more counter attacking and put bodies forward, and got punished for being dragged out of shape, we'd be crucified for suicidal tactics and throwing the game and inviting pressure.

I'm sorry, but Chesterfield were bang average. Look at the Crewe game for a like-for-like comparison. They were a much, much better footballing side and we really had to dig deep and put bodies on the line. Chesterfield didn't have a clue how to break us down and it took a mistake from us to allow them back into the game.

 

[Coalite]

Let's be honest here, if we'd have utilised those tactics ODL is referring to, and played more counter attacking and put bodies forward, and got punished for being dragged out of shape, we'd be crucified for suicidal tactics and throwing the game and inviting pressure.

I'm sorry, but Chesterfield were bang average. Look at the Crewe game for a like-for-like comparison. They were a much, much better footballing side and we really had to dig deep and put bodies on the line. Chesterfield didn't have a clue how to break us down and it took a mistake from us to allow them back into the game.

I wouldn’t be sorry about it. It’s hardly a controversial opinion to say we were average when we had maybe two or three (at a push) shots on target all game.

There’s a bit of a discrepancy about what qualifies as dominating a game anyway. Passing it across the back four for an hour doesn’t really cut it for me to be honest, which is pretty much what happened Saturday. Others may have a different opinion, and they probably wouldn’t be wrong either.

 

[OneDecentLester]

Let's be honest here, if we'd have utilised those tactics ODL is referring to, and played more counter attacking and put bodies forward, and got punished for being dragged out of shape, we'd be crucified for suicidal tactics and throwing the game and inviting pressure.

I'm sorry, but Chesterfield were bang average. Look at the Crewe game for a like-for-like comparison. They were a much, much better footballing side and we really had to dig deep and put bodies on the line. Chesterfield didn't have a clue how to break us down and it took a mistake from us to allow them back into the game.

Hit a right nerve with you haven’t we

 

[valefan16]

Hit a right nerve with you haven’t we

To be fair to you guys the 10 we had left on the field Saturday was far superior to the 10 we had left on the field against Crewe.

 

[OneDecentLester]

To be fair to you guys the 10 we had left on the field Saturday was far superior to the 10 we had left on the field against Crewe.

Tbh mate I’m sure Dan knows that but seems to me he’s just looking to try and get a little dig in bless him.

But If he wants to play silly games, then I’ll just remind him that we pumped that ‘much, much better footballing side’ Crewe 5-0 on their own patch earlier in the season with over 60% possession