Weekend Match Thread 27/02

[Shotsfan1993]

Deserved to win the game although we were very fortunate with the penalty. Goal was coming though and im sure we have lost out because of referees decisions earlier this season so we'll take it.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

The exact same thing happened in a Grays v Woking league game a few years ago. After a player was injured, Matt Pattison passed the ball back from a free kick on the half way line, only for the keeper to completely misjudge the ball, which sailed over his head and into the net. That put us 1-0 up with a couple of minutes to go against a very niggly Grays team (it might be something in the Essex water). However, our manager insisted that our players let Grays walk the ball into our net from the restart for an equaliser. Pretty poor IMO that Guiseley didn't do the same.

They didn't deserve it in my opinion, their keeper could have caught the ball but he wanted to waste more time letting it go dead, totally his choice to leave it and he paid the price. Entertaining scenes followed with the Braintree bench and management chasing after the officials!

 

[CrazyImp]

Genuinely sad at losing Kidderminster, a thoroughly likeable club unlike a fair few in this division. I'll feel the same again when Torquay's last rites are read.

I can feel B2TF's tears at the diminishing amount of proper clubs....

 

[East Bank Shot]

Easy win in the end for us, Welling were one of the worst teams I've seen this season and won't be staying up on that showing. We did get lucky with the penalty but on the whole deserved to win. Just a shame we didn't put together this run of form a few weeks earlier.

 

[Southern Shayman]

They didn't deserve it in my opinion, their keeper could have caught the ball but he wanted to waste more time letting it go dead, totally his choice to leave it and he paid the price. Entertaining scenes followed with the Braintree bench and management chasing after the officials!

The Cowleys having a moan?! Never.

Glad to hear Tom King's had his come uppance though. Was an absolute tail end in goal for Welling early in the season - never seen a player go out of his way so much to try and wind fans up.

In all honesty, if you think this Braintree side are niggly, you should have seen them under Devonshire.

 

[Railway Blue]

Thanks for posting the forgotten derby link, DSL. It will be interesting to see if the crowd exceeds the Chester conference record, have a feeling it might. Nothing less than a win will do for Rovers here, but not expecting us to manage that, particularly if Brabin starts the unfit pair of Higdon and Taylor-Fletcher.

Couple of interesting fixtures elsewhere; Braintree trying to maintain their play-off push against an inconsistent Guiseley, who need points towards their safety target and out of form Macc host a revived Wrexham. Can see draws in both.

I believe Cheshire's finest have restricted the crowd to 3,500.

Back in the 1960's this game attracted crowds of 16 or 17,000.

 

[Blue Lion]

So our game with Wrexham finished 0-0. Not much to mention other than a shot by Jackson that Jalal got enough on to tip it onto the inside of the post. The only real highlights were Wrexham's away support and Adriano Moke's hat.

 

[FrankTheTank]

Really was not impressed by FGR: one decent bit of play in 90 mins, resulted in them hitting the post when they could have made it 3-1.

A lot of arguing among their players, and maybe pressure's getting to them.

Actually would have been 3-0 when Frear hit the post, but from that moment on Barrow dominated. Our defence and midfield always sit too deep when under pressure, happened in the play-offs against Rovers last season.

Think we should have made all three changes on 60-65mins and put on experienced players that can hold the ball (Parkin, Wedgbury, Kelly). Manager-fail on this one.

Don't think the pressure is getting to them, just natural frustration at dropping a 2-0 lead.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

Well after seeing the video I now think we should have given a goal back to Braintree. Norburn wasn't shooting but he did overhit the ball back to their keeper. It didn't seem that way at the time though so I can see both sides to this.

Most Contraversial Goal Of The Season

 

[Tranmerewhite]

Keeper being a tit, perfectly fine in my book for Guiseley not to give Braintree a goal.

 

[Sparrow]

ContrAversial. lol. It's contrOversial. Fools.

 

[GTFCfish]

Well after seeing the video I now think we should have given a goal back to Braintree. Norburn wasn't shooting but he did overhit the ball back to their keeper. It didn't seem that way at the time though so I can see both sides to this.

Most Contraversial Goal Of The Season

Sorry, but that is shocking decision not to give them a goal back and i have lost a lot of respect for your club after watching that.
Whether they were a niggly team or not is by the by, that is just plainly the wrong thing to do.

 

[GTFCfish]

Keeper being a tit, perfectly fine in my book for Guiseley not to give Braintree a goal.

The keeper had no chance of reaching it.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Actually would have been 3-0 when Frear hit the post, but from that moment on Barrow dominated. Our defence and midfield always sit too deep when under pressure, happened in the play-offs against Rovers last season.

Think we should have made all three changes on 60-65mins and put on experienced players that can hold the ball (Parkin, Wedgbury, Kelly). Manager-fail on this one.

Don't think the pressure is getting to them, just natural frustration at dropping a 2-0 lead.

You're right, it was 2-0 when you hit the post - I remember thinking at the time that it would be undeserved if it had gone in.

Where your boss got his subs wrong, it was our double substitution on 68 that changed it really. Cox has been really impressive in changing games, although sometimes tactics from the start seem a bit questionable.

On the point of players arguing, it was going on most the second half. I thought Arnold was going to lamp Clough at one point. Seemed like how our players were when we nearly blew the title last season.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

Sorry, but that is shocking decision not to give them a goal back and i have lost a lot of respect for your club after watching that.
Whether they were a niggly team or not is by the by, that is just plainly the wrong thing to do.

Based on the video I agree with you but I didn't think that whilst at the game. Just to add they were throwing themselves to ground at every opportunity up to that point, when their player went down they had possession and carried on attacking the Guiseley goal, they didn't put the ball out so he could be treated. Guiseley won the ball back and attacked the Braintree goal, their full back pinched the ball in a tight spot and put in into touch as he had no options but then pointed to his mate still laying on the floor! Lots of elements to this.

 

[Southern Shayman]

Guiseley in the right there. Braintree time wasting King attempts to waste more time and cocks it up.

Edit: The more I watch it, the less sure I am.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Based on the video I agree with you but I didn't think that whilst at the game. Just to add they were throwing themselves to ground at every opportunity up to that point, when their player went down they had possession and carried on attacking the Guiseley goal, they didn't put the ball out so he could be treated. Guiseley won the ball back and attacked the Braintree goal, their full back pinched the ball in a tight spot and put in into touch as he had no options but then pointed to his mate still laying on the floor! Lots of elements to this.

If the ball just went out in normal play, and not for the injured player to receive treatment, then nothing wrong with what went on. Even then, if a player went down and his teammate kicked it out, yet it was an unnecessary stoppage and an exercise in timewasting, well again, sod 'em.
What was out of order was the way the Braintree staff acted, and possibly even led to Bower deciding not to let them have a goal back.
I'd be annoyed if I was a Braintree fan, but as a neutral it seemsthey're making an issue where there isn't one.

 

[The_Boss]

No way did he over hit that by accident, fully meant to clear the keeper.

 

[GodsGift]

That's really, really poor form from Guiseley.

 

[WokingTillIDiet]

Based on the video I agree with you but I didn't think that whilst at the game. Just to add they were throwing themselves to ground at every opportunity up to that point, when their player went down they had possession and carried on attacking the Guiseley goal, they didn't put the ball out so he could be treated. Guiseley won the ball back and attacked the Braintree goal, their full back pinched the ball in a tight spot and put in into touch as he had no options but then pointed to his mate still laying on the floor! Lots of elements to this.

No, there are no elements to it. Whatever went on before is irrelevant. Shameful behaviour from Guiseley.

 

[GuiseleySteve]

The sad thing is that Braintree are actually a good team they have absolutely no need to resort to dark side. Had they played the game in the right way that goal would not have come about as they had every opportunity to put the ball out of play immediately their player went down but they chose to go for goal instead.

 

[Sparrow]

Disappointed in DSL for not continuing the run of mentioning our game!

He can't post in the right thread so there wasn't much chance of that.

 

[DarkSithLord]

He can't post in the right thread so there wasn't much chance of that.

Meow. For your information I post in both this and the Conference North thread. Besides does it matter?

 

[Shotsfan1993]

My personal opinion is that Guiseley should have given the goal back for the sole reason that they wouldnt have scored that goal in "normal" play and the goal was an accident. Yes the keeper isnt in the correct position but he wasn't expecting a shot and by the time anyone realised it was going in I dont think he had time to stop it going in.

 

[Andy Harrier]

Here's the Guiseley managers view on it:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03kwrdg

 

[DarkSithLord]

Just watched it. Thats shocking from Guiseley. The keeper had no chance whatsoever of reaching that. Where is the "spirit of the game" there?

 

[chrisblor]

Shameful behavior from Guiseley. They certainly should have allowed Braintree a goal in return.

 

[SomeMightShay]

Bollocks. Shit. Arses.

All things found in your typical delicious football ground burger. Except at the New Lawn of course.

 

[Sparrow]

Fair play to Guiseley. Great banter.

 

[iron4ever]

Apparently they scored when they were meant to pass the ball back to the keeper, and then refused to let Braintree go up the other end and walk the ball in. The cheating bastards

Just got back from Guiseley and l amstill fuming. The most contentious goal you will ever see. Judge for yourselves when the BT highlights are shown. Just read Guiseley Steves ramblings, what a load of brown stuff. He forgot to say that their bench said shoot when a pass back to our keeper was the proper thing to do. The ref then asked their bench if they would allow us to walk the ball into the goal from the re-start and they said no way.