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[valefan16]

I hope for Derby fans sake they still have a club to support. There was previously an issue regards Pride Park so not sure if that is playing a part here.

Longer it’s dragged on it does appear this guy Kirchner come across as a bit of a chancer though. Reminds me of when we were in admin and someone was named preferred bidder with all grand plans etc but when it came to paying the money there were “delays with bank transfers” etc and then did a runner. Be expensive for Kirchner though as normally you have to pay a deposit which will have been lost.

Christ read Micky Adams book about Keith Ryder... they were going Ireland for pre season and he was meant to pay and rolled up with a bin bag full of notes to pay!

 

[kieran_vale]

Christ read Micky Adams book about Keith Ryder... they were going Ireland for pre season and he was meant to pay and rolled up with a bin bag full of notes to pay!

That’s the fella. As well as promising to nearly double the budget among other things. Very strange what happened there.

At the very least here got to think Rooney is likely to walk now? Only so much uncertainty can put up with. Even if Kirchner does ultimately take over, that isn’t going to work for any length of time.

 

[SF_]

Fucking hell, glad we worked out this Kirchner was a complete chancer early on.

 

[WhiteRussian]

That’s the fella. As well as promising to nearly double the budget among other things. Very strange what happened there.

At the very least here got to think Rooney is likely to walk now? Only so much uncertainty can put up with. Even if Kirchner does ultimately take over, that isn’t going to work for any length of time.

There will be a few clubs ready to offer him a job if it goes tits up, that's for sure.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Fuck em

 

[leedsvaliant]

I can't see them going bump. It's a different scenario to Bury and someone will come along and rescue them. Perhaps people are hedging their bets so that they get the very best price.

 

[Super_horns]

Administrators taken away the exclusivity rights.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534594203828756481

 

[kieran_vale]

Administrators taken away the exclusivity rights.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534594203828756481

Still hopeful of providing funds? He either has it or as is increasingly more likely never had it at all. A complete chancer. I think it could be for the best the admin pull the plug on this deal now as otherwise it's just going to waste more time. Would imagine it'll open the door for Mike Ashley or someone then.

If they're not out of admin by the time the season starts not sure what the rule on this would be. Presume they'd have to swallow another points deduction at the very least if the league let them start the season.

 

[91SPP]

Kirchner definitely has the money, that isn't in question. It's how he acquired his money that is of interest and I believe that's thrown up some red flags. However, the funds have apparently cleared now and it all looks ready to go ahead, which is good news.

Mike Ashley was happy to see us take a -15 point deduction to pay creditors less this coming season, whilst I appreciate he's kept his foot in the door in case things looked overly dire that would've killed my interest for the coming season and I imagine a lot of the players that have been around the club and still holding on for a takeover. Not to mention, Rooney would've likely walked having been handed another point deduction in another season. My main gripe with Ashley is that he has the wealth and could've put all this to bed months ago if he really wanted to, so whilst Kirchner is being labeled a chancer - Ashley is the biggest chancer of all!

It's going to take a lot from the people at the club to sort out a squad in time for the new season, but we've got six very good players on the books (if it is only six) and our turnover will allow us certain advantages against the competition.

If it's not to be Kirchner, at least the details of the deal have now been agreed and people know what the situation is and what the terms of deal could be.

 

[SF_]

Kirchner definitely has the money, that isn't in question.

How is this certain? When we did our due diligence, it seemed most of his wealth was tied up in crypto investments or tied into his logistics company. Plus in the US you don't have to disclose financial details publicly.

The amount of liquid cash he has still seems very unknown.

The lowball offer he put to our owners was supposedly a pitiful amount. I don't trust the guy one bit.

 

[TractorBoys]

Crypto investments, unless he's part of a conglomerate, can be turned into liquid cash in minutes.

 

[SF_]

Crypto investments, unless he's part of a conglomerate, can be turned into liquid cash in minutes.

That's not the point, there is no proof they actually exist and how much he actually has. Considering the market also recently tanked, it's not a great case for becoming the owner of a football club.

 

[kieran_vale]

All getting a bit farcical this. Think the administrators should at this point issue a statement to tell the fans what’s happening here.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534885660900921344

 

[BarrieOwl]

Kirchner definitely has the money, that isn't in question. It's how he acquired his money that is of interest and I believe that's thrown up some red flags. However, the funds have apparently cleared now and it all looks ready to go ahead, which is good news.

Mike Ashley was happy to see us take a -15 point deduction to pay creditors less this coming season, whilst I appreciate he's kept his foot in the door in case things looked overly dire that would've killed my interest for the coming season and I imagine a lot of the players that have been around the club and still holding on for a takeover. Not to mention, Rooney would've likely walked having been handed another point deduction in another season. My main gripe with Ashley is that he has the wealth and could've put all this to bed months ago if he really wanted to, so whilst Kirchner is being labeled a chancer - Ashley is the biggest chancer of all!

It's going to take a lot from the people at the club to sort out a squad in time for the new season, but we've got six very good players on the books (if it is only six) and our turnover will allow us certain advantages against the competition.

If it's not to be Kirchner, at least the details of the deal have now been agreed and people know what the situation is and what the terms of deal could be.

You should look up Gullible in the dictionary, your picture is right there.

Kirchner is a charlatan but I expect nothing less from your club.

 

[leedsvaliant]

You should look up Gullible in the dictionary, your picture is right there.

Kirchner is a charlatan but I expect nothing less from your club.

I have to agree. This has all the hallmarks of a dodgy owner, with zero interest in Derby County. His avoiding comments to the BBC yesterday set off my Smurthwaite alarm. I'd trust Mike Ashley more than this guy!

 

[SF_]

He's obviously crafty but was Ashley even that bad for Newcastle? Apart from not bank rolling them to the European places?

They got relegated but he backed them to bounce back immediately and they destroyed the league. He also paid some big fees and wages in the Prem.

Without mega rich owners, he had them exactly where I'd expect Newcastle to be in the current climate. He wasn't great but the Geordie's crying seemed over the top to me, similar to Blackburn and the Venky's. Delusions of grandeur.

 

[BarrieOwl]

He's obviously crafty but was Ashley even that bad for Newcastle? Apart from not bank rolling them to the European places?

They got relegated but he backed them to bounce back immediately and they destroyed the league. He also paid some big fees and wages in the Prem.

Without mega rich owners, he had them exactly where I'd expect Newcastle to be in the current climate. He wasn't great but the Geordie's crying seemed over the top to me, similar to Blackburn and the Venky's. Delusions of grandeur.

He's a solid if unspectacular owner

 

[Super_horns]

He's obviously crafty but was Ashley even that bad for Newcastle? Apart from not bank rolling them to the European places?

They got relegated but he backed them to bounce back immediately and they destroyed the league. He also paid some big fees and wages in the Prem.

Without mega rich owners, he had them exactly where I'd expect Newcastle to be in the current climate. He wasn't great but the Geordie's crying seemed over the top to me, similar to Blackburn and the Venky's. Delusions of grandeur.

The problem was they did get relegated and didn't really do that well in their eyes towards the end of his reign after some solid seasons under Pardew for example.

The Bobby Robson/Kevin Keegan seasons are what they expect up there I feel.

Appointing an ex Sunderland manager (Bruce stood no chance) probably didn't help to replace the "Messiah" in Benítez.

If Ashley had appointed Eddie Howe for example he would have been hammered for not being ambitious enough.

 

[kieran_vale]

The problem was they did get relegated and didn't really do that well in their eyes towards the end of his reign after some solid seasons under Pardew for example.

The Bobby Robson/Kevin Keegan seasons are what they expect up there I feel.

Appointing an ex Sunderland manager (Bruce stood no chance) probably didn't help to replace the "Messiah" in Benítez.

If Ashley had appointed Eddie Howe for example he would have been hammered for not being ambitious enough.

Good points there. That’s been a large problem at that club that nothing anyone did could compare with the Keegan era when they nearly won the league. Ashley had them running solvently which is more than a lot of clubs can say. Detest some of the guys business practises but that doesn’t really come into this purchase.

Looks like the league have issued a statement now. I think they need to set a hard deadline for a sale to go through now to try and force the hand on this. Don’t like to see any club in this mess.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1534996133403058193

 

[YEO YEO YEO]

Any updates? 5pm deadline has gone, anyone heard anything more?

 

[valefan16]

Any updates? 5pm deadline has gone, anyone heard anything more?

Sky reporting the funds were not provided

 

[Marked Ox]

Sky reporting the funds were not provided

I'm shocked, I tell ya!!!

 

[BarrieOwl]

I'm shocked, I tell ya!!!

91pp is.....

 

[kieran_vale]

One of the more predictable events throughout this period. Needs to be a hard deadline set by the EFL now to force through a sale to another party whether it’s Ashley or whoever and if it’s not met then they should be expelled, something needs doing to get things moving. No real incentive on the administrators to act quickly throughout though as they’re just racking up the fees the longer it’s gone on. Kirchner already given far more time than he should have ever have been afforded.

 

[BarrieOwl]

Wonder if the club could face points sanctions re missed wages.

Ashley apparently not willing to pay the amount needed to avoid triggering the - 15 deduction.

Rooney surely will walk, his stock is ridiculously high at present so will have options

 

[Ninety Per Cent]

Without mega rich owners, he had them exactly where I'd expect Newcastle to be in the current climate. He wasn't great but the Geordie's crying seemed over the top to me, similar to Blackburn and the Venky's. Delusions of grandeur.

Biggest complaints was the dire football under Bruce - shocking to watch but could scrape a result. You're just jumping to the media narrative tbh, Preston's golden era was about the same time Newcastle's was.

 

[Bartonyellow]

The issue will always be the ground. Mel Morris owns it. Any new owner will want it.
They are screwed.
Need to start looking at a phoenix club because this is not looking good unless Ashley buys it.

 

[BarrieOwl]

The issue will always be the ground. Mel Morris owns it. Any new owner will want it.
They are screwed.
Need to start looking at a phoenix club because this is not looking good unless Ashley buys it.

MM will sell it, he's not that much of a cxxt surely.

 

[Super_horns]

Bad to square one for Derby.

Kirchner fails to meet Derby takeover deadline

US businessman Chris Kirchner fails to meet a deadline to prove he has the funds to complete a takeover of Derby County.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[Luke Imp]

The Administrators have been taking the piss as well, surely?