7 points, 6 games: Title still open?

[mente captus]

when was the last time an english club won a tie against one of these clubs?

 

[Munkiki]

you questioned the competitiveness not the quality.

 

[JimJams]

I think if there were one club in the Premier league who could just take their oppositions best players like Bayern did with Dortmund, then we may have one team that could better the other European giants. Fortunately though we have other sides with backbones.

 

[JoshBCFC]

when was the last time an english club won a tie against one of these clubs?

Sorry, did you mean competitiveness in Europe? In that case I see your point, yeah.

 

[johnnytodd]

when was the last time an english club won a tie against one of these clubs?

1985 Rotterdam

i was THEEEEERE !!!!!!!!!

 

[JoshBCFC]

1985 Rotterdam

i was THEEEEERE !!!!!!!!!

I don't see 1985 Rotterdam on that photo... in fact even their country isn't on there.


Edit: nvm

 

[Munkiki]

Sorry, did you mean competitiveness in Europe? In that case I see your point, yeah.

he didn't, he's just moved the goalposts because he knew I'd got him.

I don't see 1985 Rotterdam on that photo... in fact even their country isn't on there.

Everton beat Bayern on route to the 1985 final in Rotterdam

 

[JoshBCFC]

[QUOTE="Munkiki, post: 386261, member: 459"]he didn't, he's just moved the goalposts because he knew I'd got him.


Everton beat Bayern on route to the 1985 final in Rotterdam [/QUOTE]
Ah, didn't realize that.

 

[mente captus]

he didn't, he's just moved the goalposts because he knew I'd got him.

i only want to show thats very likely that they could even dominate in the epl.

I think if there were one club in the Premier league who could just take their oppositions best players like Bayern did with Dortmund, then we may have one team that could better the other European giants. Fortunately though we have other sides with backbones.

Lewandowski and Götze moved from Dortmund to Bayern, while Hummels moved in the other direction. in the 43 years of Bundesliga football only 4 players were transfered from Dortmund to Munich.

furthermore when Wolfsburg could hold the lead vs Madrid they would be the 4th different german club in the past 5 years who reaches the semi final in the champions league.

 

[Pagnell]

English teams have played Barcelona nearly 30 times at the Nou Camp, but only one team has won there. Twice.

 

[Munkiki]

Ah, didn't realize that.

But it wasn't the last time an English side won a tie against those clubs. Definitely not the last time an English club knocked Bayern out of a Europe (a few have done that, heck even Norwich have done that)

PSG - Chelsea 2014
Bayern - Chelsea 2012
Juventus - can't think of any *recent* knock-out games between Juve and English clubs... guessing Fulham 2010?
Barca - Chelsea 2012
Atlético - not sure. remember they beat Fulham in the EL Final 2010 and Liverpool en route. also remember Chelsea beating them 4-0 one year but pretty sure that was group stage. when did Bolton beat them? maybe then.

 

[johnnytodd]

i drove to Nuremberg too once

#topfanjonny

 

[Munkiki]

i only want to show thats very likely that they could even dominate in the epl.

actually it's very unlikely that any of those clubs would dominate the Premier League.

(we let in Welsh clubs so I guess it'd be possible for a European club to get in... what's the lowest level they'd have to start at? they'd have quite a lot of work to do before even getting the chance to dominate the top flight. also, presumably none of their players would want to play non-league football in England so it'd probably take them quite some time to not only reach the top flight but to rebuild once they're there. nope, I don't think it's very likely.)

 

[johnnytodd]

English teams have played Barcelona nearly 30 times at the Nou Camp, but only one team has won there. Twice.

Has to be Man United they're the biggest club in the world

 

[smat]

i only want to show thats very likely that they could even dominate in the epl.

Absolutely no chance, and their performances in Europe would suffer as well. It's fucking easy for Bayern to beat Paderborn or whoever 10-0 with their reserves and then put all their energies into their Champions League ties. English clubs actually have to try at home.

 

[mente captus]

Absolutely no chance, and their performances in Europe would suffer as well. It's fucking easy for Bayern to beat Paderborn or whoever 10-0 with their reserves and then put all their energies into their Champions League ties. English clubs actually have to try at home.

thats too easy. isnt it?

 

[GodsGift]

Man CIty become the 10th different English club to reach European Cup semi-final, extending record. (Germany 8, France 8, Spain 7, Italy 6).

 

[JimJams]

Dat Diversity Doe.

 

[johnnytodd]

2ww & 1ff

do dar

 

[mente captus]

2ww & 1ff

do dar

70 years later? really? you fucking c*** with your 3rd world education.

how i can delete my account here?

fucking morons

 

[JimJams]

You'd leave cos of 1 guy?

 

[mente captus]

2ww & 1ff

do dar

you have no idea what you are talking about.

they found the body of my great grandfather some months ago in Romania after he was for 70 years mia and we are trying to get his body to germany to bury him next to my great grandmother

my great grandmother became 101 years old, and always when it was ringing at the door she hoped he came back...even in the late 80th.

she never gave up even she lost 2 brothers, 2 husbands and both sons in both wars. only my grandma survived, she was a nurse during ww2 and at every storm she feared the bombers are back and she were searching for her safe place under the bed

so fuck off

 

[Aber gas]

70 years later? really? you fucking c*** with your 3rd world education.

how i can delete my account here?

fucking morons

Don't leave on account of that twat. Plenty of decent people here.

 

[rudebwoyben]

If Britain had suffered the same scale of losses as the USSR, Germany or even France and had been subjected to foreign occupation, there wouldn't be anyone posting with such a flippant attitude towards World War 2.

 

[Veggie Legs]

Sorry to drag up a week old debate, but where does Bilo rank Ipswich winning the Division One title in their first ever season in the top flight in 1961/62?

 

[Nilsson]

how i can delete my account here?

No need, just stop coming on.

 

[mente captus]

hm, sorry at Jonny, ill take all back ive said.

i was really successful in avoiding to tell something about me in the 12 years of membership, but i think its time to lift the curtain a little bit about me and my family....even it isnt the right thread.

i was born in 1980 ( yeah, im fucking old) and were born what the history calls east germany, exactly in Halberstadt ( still the coolest place on earth).

family fests were really depressive as i was a child as it seems the war was the only topic there

my great grandmother was born 1893 ( and died aged 101 1994 as i was 14).
we owned a farm where she was living at together with a former french pow. i dont know what for an relationship they had as she was already over 50 at the end of the war.
he was forced towork at our farm as all of our male familiy members of this time were dead, missing in action or pow.
after the end of the war he decided to stay to help her there and he does it until his death in the early 90th and became a family member ( i called him uncle but cant remember his name).
she got married short before the first world war has started but havent seen much of his husband as he never came back. he lost his life in early 1916. her brothers were at this time already dead. both lost their life in the very first week of ww1.
she married once again in the early 20s and had 3 kids, 2 sons and one daughter. the second son was everybodys darling, i think, as my grandma was talking a lot of him. he lost his life 1943 on the eastern front, only aged 18, the first one 1940 in the war against france.
her husband, who was a Oberstleutnant ( i guess it means colonel in your terms) also fought on the eastern front. he was getting lost in the summer of 1944 ( my mother still owns the letter from the german red cross were they state that, after an excessive search, it is very likely that he died in romania)
i can remember she was getting really nervous when it was ringing at the door because she thought he comes back. i think it was because his death was never confirmed.
they found his body, or better said his markings last year near to Vaslui Romania. ive seen my mum crying three times in my life. at the furneral of her mum, of her dad and as she told me that. i will never forget as she said to me: Sie haben meinen Opa gefunden ( they found my grandpa)
we visited his grave last november and trying since then to get his body over here, but the romanians are not very interested in it. as long he is buried there we will come back and spend money.
My grandmother were a nurse during the war, where she met my grandpa. he was wounded in April 1945 but she had to wait for him for two further years as he became a french POW and only came back in 1947.
he nearly served the whole war and were in France, Norway, Greece, Africa, Italy and the eastern front. he never have spoken about the war to me.
my other grandma were born in Hamburg but left the city after the big raid in 1944 and moved on to central germany were it was safer. she has never seen Hamburg again as they built later the fucking wall.
my other grandpa were wounded ( lost his right arm) in 1941 also on the eastern front and so survived the war.

to my wifes family

My wife is a wolga deutsche ( in the 19th century some germans thought it could be funny to settle at the Volga river).
Her grandma is still alive, she is 84.
As germans they were treated very badly during the war.she eye-witnessed as her parents were shoot by the russians. 2 of her sisters starved ( is this the right word?).
even after the war they were treated very badly. they had to live in Chechnya. were the brother of my wife were born in the late 70th.
as he was a fucking german for them and had no worth for the russians. the russians thought its would be funny to send him to the war in Chechnya to fought them. he died last year in a mental hospital.

i know we were always the bad guys in movies and are monsters at best in movies and the war were awful and stupid and a shame but......i dont know how to end here.......

anyway:

me and my wife enjoying the snow in cologne ( i do it a little bit more i guess)

 

[johnnytodd]

Don't leave on account of that twat. Plenty of decent people here.

and yourself of course

 

[johnnytodd]

70 years later? really? you fucking c*** with your 3rd world education.

how i can delete my account here?

fucking morons

grow up man it was a lickle joke that i never even expected you to understand

no offence meant, just my sick little mind in overdrive,

 

[Pagnell]

Leicester have the title in the bag. As said earlier I really can't see them failing to pick up a couple of wins from their remaining games and that should do it. I expect them to go into the final game against Chelsea already as Champions. It will be the best title win in the Premiership era for me.

So what about them as defending champions next season? It will inevitably be difficult for them with the additional European fixtures and star coverage they will get. Will they be able to deal with the pressure as brilliantly as they have in the latter half of this season? Who can they afford to bring in over the summer? Can they resist if bigger clubs come in for key players, despite the title win? All things taken into account, I can easily see them struggling to consolidate and failing to finish in the top 4 or even Europa spots, a victim of the massive leap from relegation candidates to title winners in short space of 12 months.