Athletic Article: League One and Two Seasons to be abandoned next week

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

This regionalisation bollocks is constantly pushed out by elite club supporting hacks with nothing to write about. We hear this shite every single year.

League pyramid that's the envy of the World, yet many in the elite want B teams and regionalised leagues. Absolute fools.

 

[Boletus Edulis]

Nice

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ng-radical-plan-split-League-Two-regions.html

Okay so stupid ideas that were rejected before - B teams, five divisions and regional leagues - reappear. This feels some football people are using the biggest health crises to hit the country for a hundred years to fly there hobby horses. Yet again I have to use profanity - they can fuck right off. Thrice.

 

[Chief Rocka]

it would have to be L1 and L2 regionalised IF it happened - and it won't... Can you imagine Sunderland wanting to play teams who were in L2 last season - or us*...

*even though we had (maybe still have?) the record away attendance at the Stadium of Light after our 2010 FA Cup Match there.

Not even close to the record bonny lad

 

[darren gregory]

The BBC have now decided to ask an ' expert ' to predict how the table would of looked.
Swindon champions
Cheltenham 4th
Vale 7th
Stevenage 24th

What a pile of horse shit. Absolutely no point in the article

 

[AdamStag]

The only possible way in which regionalised football would work (which it wouldn’t anyway) is if both the north and south had 3 promotion spaces which would mean 6 down from the championship - which again clearly wouldn’t work.

 

[chipmunx]

Not even close to the record bonny lad

at the time the 9000 or so we took to them in 2010 was their record away attendance at that ground - they had to enlarge the away section for the match and charged us for doing it..

 

[Chris FGR]

The only possible way in which regionalised football would work (which it wouldn’t anyway) is if both the north and south had 3 promotion spaces which would mean 6 down from the championship - which again clearly wouldn’t work.

Would more likely be 4 up/down (2 from each league), but can't see Championship clubs agreeing to that either.

 

[Chief Rocka]

at the time the 9000 or so we took to them in 2010 was their record away attendance at that ground - they had to enlarge the away section for the match and charged us for doing it..

10,000 Pools, 2003/04 FA Cup 3rd round.

 

[AdamStag]

Would more likely be 4 up/down (2 from each league), but can't see Championship clubs agreeing to that either.

Well yeah it would be, but again it simple wouldn’t work.

 

[Chris FGR]

It would also mean that a team that gets relegated out of the Prem and has a bad year straight away in the Champ (like Huddersfield/Stoke etc), could literally go from the Prem to regional football in 12 months!

 

[chipmunx]

It would also mean that a team that gets relegated out of the Prem and has a bad year straight away in the Champ (like Huddersfield/Stoke etc), could literally go from the Prem to regional football in 12 months!

that would be funny as though....unless you supported them

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Funny how the Bundesliga are happy to continue with three divisions (only one B team in their 3rd Liga) and aren't talking about radical reform. They want a pyramid structure that'll rival ours one day but they have to build it slowly.

Unfortunately, we have suits, journos and PL-only fans who are hell bent on destroying our greatest asset to the game.

 

[chipmunx]

10,000 Pools, 2003/04 FA Cup 3rd round.

just checked back and you're right - i got my North East teams mixed up - it was Middlesbrough's new stadium in 2009 not Sunderland in 2010 where we held the away attendance record.

 

[AdamStag]

Funny how the Bundesliga are happy to continue with three divisions (only one B team in their 3rd Liga) and aren't talking about radical reform. They want a pyramid structure that'll rival ours one day but they have to build it slowly.

Unfortunately, we have suits, journos and PL-only fans who are hell bent on destroying our greatest asset to the game.

Whereas I don’t doubt you, where do you source the information that the Germans have some where fascination with our league structure?

just curious more than anything

 

[BlackHaddock]

just checked back and you're right - i got my North East teams mixed up - it was Middlesbrough's new stadium in 2009 not Sunderland in 2010 where we held the away attendance record.

Crikey, thought there might be a non-league stand-off with this topic. Glad it's all sorted without anyone getting hurt.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Either way, there's no logic behind keeping them in the league at all given that horrendous losing run they were on.

Other than the logic that they are not relegated. They are 3 points behind the team above them with a game in hand. With an extremely easy end of season run in. Ignore logic, demand they go down cause heck, it aint my club. Relegation and promotion must be earnt on a level playing field. That hasn't happened. Thankfully its looking more and more likely each day the entire thing is going to be voided.

 

[chipmunx]

Crikey, thought there might be a non-league stand-off with this topic. Glad it's all sorted without anyone getting hurt.

IF things go as they should I'll be looking forward to the Ian Holloway v Ian Evatt matches next season....

 

[chipmunx]

Other than the logic that they are not relegated. They are 3 points behind the team above them with a game in hand. With an extremely easy end of season run in. Ignore logic, demand they go down cause heck, it aint my club. Relegation and promotion must be earnt on a level playing field. That hasn't happened. Thankfully its looking more and more likely each day the entire thing is going to be voided.

You'll got to be a Troll.. there's no way L2 will be voided - just accept that you're team didn't make the top 3 and get over it.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Whereas I don’t doubt you, where do you source the information that the Germans have some where fascination with our league structure?

just curious more than anything

Like the German fan culture is the envy of the World according to our football journalists, on the Continent, it's often said that our league pyramid is the envy of the World by many foreign football journalists. If I recall, we were the only country in Europe to have a single third division until Germany adopted the 3rd Liga. I remember them on one of the Bundesliga Magazine shows you used to get on ESPN (and you likely still do now on BT) citing our league structure as an example as to how it can work for them. In addition, there's also a strong depth of big city and well supported clubs in Germany too. Kaiserslautern for instance were in the Champions League Quarter Finals in 1999, now they're a 3rd Liga club!

 

[Indian Dan]

Thankfully its looking more and more likely each day the entire thing is going to be voided.

Evidence, please.

 

[AdamStag]

Evidence, please.

I dare say out of his backside.

 

[Blue Lion]

Said on the NL forum I could pretty much name 3 of the 4 who did vote for Stevenage to go down. Oldham, Macc and you guys definitely did. I'm less sure but going off what Neville has said over the last month or so, Salford may well have voted for it too.

Would we really have voted for relegation if there's still a chance we'll go down? I'm pretty sure the points deduction rumours aren't true but surely we'd be quite content with relegation being scrapped this season to stop the league trying to force us out.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Would we really have voted for relegation if there's still a chance we'll go down? I'm pretty sure the points deduction rumours aren't true but surely we'd be quite content with relegation being scrapped this season to stop the league trying to force us out.

Given it's Stevenage in the spot and not you I would've thought so. Just hope you guys can get your shit together but it does look bleak.

 

[Luke Imp]

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk...-discussions-fellow-clubs-and-efl-his-2855581

I said good luck getting £13 million for him but apparently he thinks a third division footballer is worth £25 million. Jesus.

But a great owner because he uses Twitter and has a big mouth.

"I have had a discussion with my lawyer and she thinks we will have a blockbuster of a case. We will take the action against clubs and the EFL if they deny us the chance to have a go at promotion.”

He's probably bluffing, that's what people like him do, but imagine being the Chairman who threatens to being legal action against Clubs who don't agree with his stance.

I see Rochdale's Chairman has now come out and said financially it isn't viable to continue for most of L1. Most have remained quiet, but slowly and surely, the divisions are being seen via statements.

 

[AdamStag]

Would we really have voted for relegation if there's still a chance we'll go down? I'm pretty sure the points deduction rumours aren't true but surely we'd be quite content with relegation being scrapped this season to stop the league trying to force us out.

Who’s to say they’ll ask you to supply evidence you’ve finances to fund next season (whenever that is, which presumably you couldn’t.

Obviously i hope that isn’t the case, but I wouldn’t be surprised.

 

[Devon_Lad]

You'll got to be a Troll.. there's no way L2 will be voided - just accept that you're team didn't make the top 3 and get over it.

Most likely scenario as things said. No concensus among any clubs and the only viable legal way which the courts would rule. It's certainly the most likely of happening. Why would I want us to be top 3? Go up to a league we will get battered in every week and we don't even get a definitive moment to celebrate. I dont even want us in the play offs as mathematically we haven't secured a spot. Mansfield could still make the play offs ffs. The league is nowhere near finished so standings currently are worthless as not everyone has played the same games so its comparing apples with pears. Void it will ultimately happen without a concensus or by the courts.

 

[Devon_Lad]

"I have had a discussion with my lawyer and she thinks we will have a blockbuster of a case. We will take the action against clubs and the EFL if they deny us the chance to have a go at promotion.”

He's probably bluffing, that's what people like him do, but imagine being the Chairman who threatens to being legal action against Clubs who don't agree with his stance.

I see Rochdale's Chairman has now come out and said financially it isn't viable to continue for most of L1. Most have remained quiet, but slowly and surely, the divisions are being seen via statements.

Read the charter ffs. He has a stonewall case in court!

 

[Camborne Gills]

Nice

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...ng-radical-plan-split-League-Two-regions.html

No.....................just no!!

 

[Boletus Edulis]

The BBC have now decided to ask an ' expert ' to predict how the table would of looked.
Swindon champions
Cheltenham 4th
Vale 7th
Stevenage 24th

What a pile of horse shit. Absolutely no point in the article

It is indeed a crock of manure, but the BBC did not ask an ‘expert’ in the sense of a commentator. Rather, it was an economics model that sought to predict the likely results. The Prof was merely explaining what his model predicted.

It was nice to actually see something written about league 2 for a change, even if it was pretty pointless.

 

[Camborne Gills]

Most likely scenario as things said. No concensus among any clubs and the only viable legal way which the courts would rule. It's certainly the most likely of happening. Why would I want us to be top 3? Go up to a league we will get battered in every week and we don't even get a definitive moment to celebrate. I dont even want us in the play offs as mathematically we haven't secured a spot. Mansfield could still make the play offs ffs. The league is nowhere near finished so standings currently are worthless as not everyone has played the same games so its comparing apples with pears. Void it will ultimately happen without a concensus or by the courts.

There will NOT be null and void, end of. I really don't get why you think you know so much, compared to the more sensible posters on here.