Brendan Rodgers

[smat]

Fast running out of time. Might be able to claim some extra time for all the (many) new signings to bed in but the results must be testing Fenway's patience.

 

[Abertawe]

Dead man walking.

 

[Madejski]

Struggling to think of what job he might have next. Maybe Newcastle manager by the end of the season?

 

[ColB]

I still think he has potential as a coach but when when plan A doesn't work he's pretty clueless, along with having a very poor record in the market for Liverpool. The closest he's got to a plan B is whenever he catches one of his songs on the radio.

 

[snortingfrogs]

He doesn't even have a plan A.
I think he will be gone before next week is over.

 

[ColB]

He doesn't even have a plan A.
I think he will be gone before next week is over.

He's not turned into a bad manager overnight. It wasn't long ago at all that everybody was singing his praises. People go on about how Suarez would make any side that much better and while that is true it was Rodgers who got the best out of Luis, and that goes for Sterling and Sturridge too. When Suarez first came to the club he had to have 5 or 6 chances to convert one and under Brendan's guidance he became much more clinical.

I think he's a good man manager that can get the best out of young players but a poor tactician. He's obviously wasted a lot of money but none of us know exactly what other influence others could have in Liverpool's transfer dealings.

 

[Abertawe]

Im sure there are quotes where he claims he has ''total control''

 

[Christian Slater]

I've never heard a man abuse the word 'disappointed' quite like Rodgers.

 

[JimJams]

He's a fucking idiot.
A manager in charge of Liverpool should know what his best 11 looks like, and he should have a system, an identity for the way he wants them to play. Now Stevencc called it that when Sturridge was fit you'd see Liverpool playing with 2 strikers. If that's the intention, then why has he not been doing that in the absence of Sturridge? Why hasn't one of Ings or Origi been used in that role? Get the whole team playing the system you intend to use and when the best players are fit/available it's an easy transition. He doesn't know how to set his side up, he doesn't know how to change things up in a game. He's tried too many setups and not stuck with any of them long enough to get an idea as to whether it can work, and as a result nobody knows what the fuck they're doing.
Now he's had to deal with losing Suarez, Sterling, Gerrard and to an extent due to him being perennially crocked, Sturridge to a degree, and that is going to affect any managers ability to compete at the top level. But the only one of those where they haven't been massively compensated (bar Sturridge obviously) is Gerrard because he's fucked off to LA, which is no bad thing, and arguably Bwenden never saw the best of his former captain anyway, so it's perhaps not a massive loss. But even so, £125mill for Suarez and Sterling, big fucking money. And what's he done with it? I don't buy this shit about the committee because every opportunity he gets to take credit for a transfer he says it's down to him, so he can stick by the shite as well. And that's perhaps a bit unfair to the players he's brought in, because a lot of them aren't shite. Or at least they weren't. The transfer policy doesn't seem to be about buying players that fit a system, and that's probably because he doesn't have one. Firminho, doesn't seem to fit into the side at all, wasn't in the starting line up today. Have they paid £30mill for him to be an impact sub? He's not a player in the mould of Sterling, so he's not going to be doing for them what Man Citys new boy did. So why buy him? So what is Firminhos best postion? Probably the one already taken up by Coutinho. Then there's Benteke, a good striker, for some sides well worth the fee, questionable if Liverpool are one of those clubs. Bagged close to 1 in 2 for Villa, a side that's been struggling down the other end of the table, who surely shouldn't be able to provide better service than a side that has ambitions of CL football. And yet they did, because Liverpools game in the last few seasons hasn't been about getting the ball wide and putting in crosses. Now I think Benteke is capable of still getting a good goal haul for Liverpool, I'm also quite confident it'd be a hell of a lot better if he were given more of a chance by his teammates. His pearler against Utd had very little to do with any quality of service and was an opportunist strike that the side hasn't particularly engineered which just goes to show what he is capable of, and if the side played to his strengths then he would surely be doing much more in front of goal for them. But the trouble is the system you use to get the best out of Benteke is not the system you use to get the best out of Daniel Sturridge. With them both being fit one of them isn't going to suit the system that's adopted. Yes they'll need to adapt, and it might work, but it's not going to be the best fit that they could have got if they'd tried to sign a player like Aubameyang for example. A player who could directly replace Sturridge or play with him in a fast pace explosive attacking side. (Don't get me wrong, I don't expect PEA to leave Dortmund but he's an example of the type of player who could have slotted in). So Brendan has spent his time buying up players who while good for their respective sides, don't actually fit into his teams in their best positions. But then his teams are chopping and fucking changing so much who knows, one day he might get lucky and accidentally put out an 11 where everyone plays in the their preferred position and the side plays together as though everyone knows what they're supposed to be doing. Though it's more likely he'll have had his P45 by then.

 

[Blitzballer]

^ that's a massive comment bro

 

[GodsGift]

Paragraphs are your friend JimJams.

 

[JimJams]

When you're on a rant GG you sometimes end up with a wall of text that you just can't be arsed to chip away at.

 

[GodsGift]

I kid, I enjoyed it really.

 

[Blitzballer]

 

[G.B]

r.i.p "the group"

 

[allouso]

Couldn't have said it better JJ^^

 

[The Iron]

If he's still the manager by Xmas, then this is what he wants.

 

[smat]

Do they just let anyone make a meme these days? Fucking hell. That is absolutely worthless.

 

[Pagnell]

I hear even Dan Brown is allowed to make them.

 

[allouso]

He should have gone after that 6-1 defeat. Can't believe he was given another shot.

A new manager would have come in and had time to implement his methods, but now whoever comes in will have to save this car crash of a season. Is Klopp a realistic target? Who knows, but we really need to give it our all in trying to land him.

 

[JimJams]

If you want to get Klopp you definitely can't wait 'til the end of the season. You have to get rid of Rogers and put an offer to Klopp now while he's not got any (many) offers available to him.

 

[Pagnell]

My faith in him is at an all time low. However, I'm still not willing to shout for him to be sacked. He needs big improvements, but I suspect it will be too little, too late. I still reckon he will get to the end of the season as I see no advantage of getting rid of him mid-season short of things looking catastrophic, and in that I mean approaching 30 league games whilst sitting in the bottom half. But for the first time I'm now thinking he will be out regardless next summer. Well, short of a top 4 finish, and that simply isn't going to happen.

As for Klopp, the guy has his choice of clubs from all over Europe. I don't believe he will come to Liverpool as things stand, regardless of what he said about being willing to manage a non-CL club. He will wait for a better option, and with the standard managerial merry go round, the choices will be there. I don't expect Benitez to last more than 12 months at Real for example.

 

[Abertawe]

Rodgers showed his true self when he sold his supposed friends down the river when given an ultimatum by Fenway at the end of last season.

 

[Pagnell]

Rodgers showed his true self when he sold his supposed friends down the river when given an ultimatum by Fenway at the end of last season.

No one knows what happened behind the scenes. Was he told they had to go? And then would you have expected him to resign on principle and lose out on the rest of his contract? Don't be naive, very few people would do such a thing. However, if he pointed the finger at them in an attempt to shift blame and keep his job, then I agree that would be somewhat distasteful.

 

[Abertawe]

I would have stepped down out of principle if I was in his position.

I'm quite sure the likes of SAF & José would've walked away too.

 

[Pagnell]

Naive it is then.

 

[johnnytodd]

remarkable that the very people who chanted Benitez's name on saturday were the same ones who wanted him out originally

funny people Kopites and Liverpool fans who post on forums , football would be a boring place without them

 

[Pagnell]

remarkable that the very people who chanted Benitez's name on saturday were the same ones who wanted him out originally

Not quite as remarkable as the fact you know every person who chanted his name wanted him out.

 

[johnnytodd]

Not quite as remarkable as the fact you know every person who chanted his name wanted him out.

ive changed that post now

 

[Stevencc]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03...ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=radio_and_music

What do we think to ole Motty's opinion on the matter?