Brendan Rodgers

Is Brendan Rodgers a fraud and should Liverpool dispense of him?

  • Yes he's a fraud and should go

  • No he's not a fraud and should stay

  • Yes he's a fraud but they should stick with him

  • No he's not a fraud but sack him off anyway


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I think he's right, theres definitely an agenda from those thinking they should be scoring goals and winning games.
 

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My faith in him is at an all time low. However, I'm still not willing to shout for him to be sacked. He needs big improvements, but I suspect it will be too little, too late. I still reckon he will get to the end of the season as I see no advantage of getting rid of him mid-season short of things looking catastrophic, and in that I mean approaching 30 league games whilst sitting in the bottom half. But for the first time I'm now thinking he will be out regardless next summer. Well, short of a top 4 finish, and that simply isn't going to happen.

As for Klopp, the guy has his choice of clubs from all over Europe. I don't believe he will come to Liverpool as things stand, regardless of what he said about being willing to manage a non-CL club. He will wait for a better option, and with the standard managerial merry go round, the choices will be there. I don't expect Benitez to last more than 12 months at Real for example.

Are you thinking what I'm thinking? The return of the King?
 

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Won't happen, the Benitez period is over and only the Liverpool fans with tainted glasses would believe it's a good idea to go back.
 
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Surely any manager worth his salt could improve this Liverpool team. They need someone who can turn great individual talent into great team performances. I guess someone who doesn't sign players like Ings and Bogdan would also help.
 

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Surely any manager worth his salt could improve this Liverpool team. They need someone who can turn great individual talent into great team performances. I guess someone who doesn't sign players like Ings and Bogdan would also help.
You forgot the world beater Ferminio at £28 million Lallana, Lovren all £20 mill plus, the blokes a laughing stock and must stay :bdick::giphy:
 

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Surely any manager worth his salt could improve this Liverpool team. They need someone who can turn great individual talent into great team performances. I guess someone who doesn't sign players like Ings and Bogdan would also help.
Ings is a promising young player with a good goal-scoring record over the last two seasons, why is that a bad signing?
 

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The press haven't raved about him. Surely that makes him shit?
 

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Nobody has called him shit?
This is a really, really annoying trait of yours Whitechapel. You pick up on words making little to no difference, it's paraphrasing, fucking live with it and explain why you don't rate Ings instead.
 

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Ings has quietly impressed me since he's joined. He's a better 3rd choice striker than Arsenal, United, City & Chelsea have, that's for sure...
 

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Ings has quietly impressed me since he's joined. He's a better 3rd choice striker than Arsenal, United, City & Chelsea have, that's for sure...
yep i bet they're regretting it now he has become so prolific ..........:animatedf:
 

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Ings has quietly impressed me since he's joined. He's a better 3rd choice striker than Arsenal, United, City & Chelsea have, that's for sure...

I don't watch the BPL anymore but I heard Rodgers has been utilising Ings in a defensive left wing position?
 

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Ings has quietly impressed me since he's joined. He's a better 3rd choice striker than Arsenal, United, City & Chelsea have, that's for sure...
Arsenal United and City I'll give ya. But Chelsea? While Falcao failed to impress last season he's still got to be considered the better player until Ings does something noteworthy, and Remy is a lot better.
 

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I don't watch the BPL anymore but I heard Rodgers has been utilising Ings in a defensive left wing position?

Well he was definitely a mile out of position on Sunday then.

Arsenal United and City I'll give ya. But Chelsea? While Falcao failed to impress last season he's still got to be considered the better player until Ings does something noteworthy, and Remy is a lot better.

I'd personally have him (and Remy) over 2015 Falcao but that's a matter of opinion.

Dunno why Ings in particular would be something to criticise him with though, solid squad player at the least. There have been plenty of other, far poorer, strikers bought previously that could be used instead!
 

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It's easier to spell though.
 
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This is a really, really annoying trait of yours Whitechapel. You pick up on words making little to no difference, it's paraphrasing, fucking live with it and explain why you don't rate Ings instead.
I just don't think he's the standard Liverpool are used to, and certainly not of a standard for a club striving for top 4 and beyond in coming seasons. He's not shit, he's a good player, only for a team with mid-table aspirations.

And calm your tits Bilo, no need to take things so serious all the time.
 

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I just don't think he's the standard Liverpool are used to, and certainly not of a standard for a club striving for top 4 and beyond in coming seasons. He's not shit, he's a good player, only for a team with mid-table aspirations.

And calm your tits Bilo, no need to take things so serious all the time.

I've watched Iago Aspas, Rickie Lambert, Sean Dundee, Milan Baros, Erik Meijer, Florent Sinama-Pongolle, Andriy Voronin, Robbie Keane, Fabio Borini, David Ngog etc. have similar/more important squad roles than Ings does through my time as a Liverpool fan. Some of them whilst we've been challenging for the league. I don't think he'll have any issues with us not being used to players like him.
 
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Ings has quietly impressed me since he's joined. He's a better 3rd choice striker than Arsenal, United, City & Chelsea have, that's for sure...
Giroud > Welbeck > Walcott > Campbell > Akpom > Ings IMO.He'd be our 6th choice.
 

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As 3rd choice behind Benteke and Sturridge, he's easily the standard Liverpool are used to, and as pointed out is a better option than other clubs that already regularly occupy the top 4.
 

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I just don't think he's the standard Liverpool are used to, and certainly not of a standard for a club striving for top 4 and beyond in coming seasons. He's not shit, he's a good player, only for a team with mid-table aspirations.

And calm your tits Bilo, no need to take things so serious all the time.
Well, if you consider that we got him for free, and that we're not in any way reliant on him (he's competing for third choice striker), I think it's a bit odd to use him as a stick to beat Rodgers with.

I'm perfectly calm. I just wanted to point out that the way you pick up on the smallest paraphrase is below that of a mod. You've done it for ages and it derails threads, as if you'd rather discuss who said what than actually take a stand. It's not about taking things too seriously, consider it vulgar feedback.
 

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Giroud > Welbeck > Walcott > Campbell > Akpom > Ings IMO.He'd be our 6th choice.
This is just plain weird by the way. The first three, fair enough, but Campbell and Akpom?

Campbell spent last season in the Greek league, managing the frankly shit 8 goals in 32 appearances. Akpom, meanwhile, has scored one senior goal in his entire career.
 

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I'd also argue that Welbeck is a contentious one. Certainly not clear cut as a striker anyway. In goals terms he's played at Arsenal and Man Utd and never broke double figures. Ings only has one Premier league season, but broke into double digits playing for the rather impotent Burnley.
 

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I let Welbeck go because there's no way in hell Whitechapel will bulge on that one. Focus on the clear cut ones, work with me here. Now he's gonna ignore me and just quote you, you bastard.
 

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I think we've got a generally good squad and some very strong areas it's just rather unbalanced, and isn't being utilised well on the pitch.
 

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I think you have got a good squad, you don't have a better squad than any of last years top 4 though, so you need one or two of them to have a sub par season and/or you need your manager to get your side playing to its peak while one of the aforementioned top 4 has a rather large blip you can take advantage of.
 
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I'd also argue that Welbeck is a contentious one. Certainly not clear cut as a striker anyway. In goals terms he's played at Arsenal and Man Utd and never broke double figures. Ings only has one Premier league season, but broke into double digits playing for the rather impotent Burnley.

Welbeck with a decent run of games behind him and not being ruined by the Arsenal injury blunders is possibly one of the top strikers in the league. He took us to the FA Cup final which we won, where as Ings secured Premier League footba... wait, never mind.
 

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He possibly is. He's possibly the best striker in the league, but he's yet to prove it, Ings could be the best English striker of the last 50 years, but he's yet to prove it as well. I don't think the Arsneal injury blunders really hindered him at Man Utd though do you?
 
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He possibly is. He's possibly the best striker in the league, but he's yet to prove it, Ings could be the best English striker of the last 50 years, but he's yet to prove it as well. I don't think the Arsneal injury blunders really hindered him at Man Utd though do you?
No, playing on the wing did.
 

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