Bristol City thread

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Also, "just turning up" does not in any way back the team. A packed ground sitting there in silence moaning and groaning does far more harm than it does good.

 

[JJH]

Yes... the rebuild has killed the atmosphere. Apart from those small couple of blocks in the Atyeo that are still alive and loud. They do consistently sing for 90 minutes, I don't see how you can deny that.

I have mates who sit in there and they say that it isn't all that it's made out to be.

I stood in the Williams last season amongst them lot when we were flying at the top of L1 - we didn't even sing for 90 minutes every game then. It was the same for the years that I was in the East End.

 

[Ciderup]

Also, "just turning up" does not in any way back the team. A packed ground sitting there in silence moaning and groaning does far more harm than it does good.

Read my post Aaron. With the Williams lot taking up a large share of SS seats this season, it was always going to be crap. They will be gone next season so it will be much better if it's done properly. Move S82 in there and off we jolly well go as the people left will be more likely to join in. It's not rocket science to be fair.

 

[BCFC Jordan]

It's not really in the English football culture to sign non-stop for ninety minutes. I can't think of any fanbase that does (maybe Palace or Pompey). However, there are an abundance of grounds that are dead silent apart from when there's a goal - like the rest of AG outside of the singing section. They do a great job in their attempts of getting an atmosphere going. We just need more to join them and safe standing to be implemented... one can dream.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Read my post Aaron. With the Williams lot taking up a large share of SS seats this season, it was always going to be crap. They will be gone next season so it will be much better. Move S82 in there and off we jolly well go as the people left will be more likely to join in. It's not rocket science to be fair.

Forget all this about the corporate lot cause the South Stand isn't even the worst culprit, it's the Dolman, which also happens to be the biggest stand in the ground.

 

[Ciderup]

Forget all this about the corporate lot cause the South Stand isn't even the worst culprit, it's the Dolman, which also happens to be the biggest stand in the ground.

Surely the Dolman suffers from the same issue bud? Both the Dolman and the SS have alot of temporary Williams stand people in them and they haven't made any noise since the enclosure went.
With the space which will undoubtedly be available in the SS next year (and the Dolman TBH), there must be a way of harnessing the excellent work of S82 in the SS next season, as long as it isn't cheaper than the rest of us?

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

It's not really in the English football culture to sign non-stop for ninety minutes. I can't think of any fanbase that does (maybe Palace or Pompey). However, there are an abundance of grounds that are dead silent apart from when there's a goal - like the rest of AG outside of the singing section. They do a great job in their attempts of getting an atmosphere going. We just need more to join them and safe standing to be implemented... one can dream.

Exactly, I can't understand this strange dislike of the only fans that stop this club being a complete embarrassment on matchdays. I've said as much on OTIB before that I have no problem in saying they are better supporters than me at home games. Because of that very simple fact, they actually support... Me and my mates try in the Dolman but it's a hopeless cause.

 

[WTTJ]

There's the issue young WTTJ. Officially, 'standing is NOT allowed in any seated area'. It's the law. While City (and virtually every other club to be fair) overlook it, standing is actually illegal, more's the pity. If push came to shove, the safety in grounds people could shut down the Atyeo (or any other stand) for persistent standing and the club couldn't do a thing about it.
When the stuffed shirts and corporate mob bugger off back to the WS next season, I can envisage the SS having a much nicer atmosphere than this season but it needs your lot back in there to lead. Will S82 accept the prices we currently pay in the SS? That's what it will come down to as they are appreciably dearer than the dear old Atyeo but the view is substantially better.

I advise you check out the FSF website. There is a document on there about the legalities of standing and it is NOT illegal. Terracing is illegal in many cases but standing is not illegal.

Yes... the rebuild has killed the atmosphere. Apart from those small couple of blocks in the Atyeo that are still alive and loud. They do consistently sing for 90 minutes, I don't see how you can deny that.

I wish we did but we don't sing for 90 mins

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Surely the Dolman suffers from the same issue bud? Both the Dolman and the SS have alot of temporary Williams stand people in them and they haven't made any noise since the enclosure went.
With the space which will undoubtedly be available in the SS next year (and the Dolman TBH), there must be a way of harnessing the excellent work of S82 in the SS next season, as long as it isn't cheaper than the rest of us?

I wouldn't say so, everyone around me are the same faces that have been there for years. As someone said on OTIB before, modern football isn't always the problem, it's the modern fan that goes with it.

 

[JJH]

Exactly, I can't understand this strange dislike of the only fans that stop this club being a complete embarrassment on matchdays. I've said as much on OTIB before that I have no problem in saying they are better supporters than me at home games. Because of that very simple fact, they actually support... Me and my mates try in the Dolman but it's a hopeless cause.

I cheer when they score, I contribute my money towards the club which ultimately pay the players wages, I join in with songs when they occasionally come up in the South Stand (although there hasn't been much to shout about) and I devote a lot of time and effort into the club. Why are others better supporters than me or any other average fan because they sing a few extra songs?

FWIW I only moved away from that section because I fancied a go in the new stand, can't say I've really missed it as I wouldn't have fancied standing and singing when we were getting trounced every week at home earlier in the season.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

I wish we did but we don't sing for 90 mins

I clearly don't mean that you sing non stop for 90 minutes without catching a breath. Of course there are breaks in volume as, like Jordan said, there are everywhere, be that home or away. You do however sing from the first minute, consistently through to the end of the game.

 

[BCFC Jordan]

Exactly, I can't understand this strange dislike of the only fans that stop this club being a complete embarrassment on matchdays. I've said as much on OTIB before that I have no problem in saying they are better supporters than me at home games. Because of that very simple fact, they actually support... Me and my mates try in the Dolman but it's a hopeless cause.

Exactly. I rarely went in the EE, but I recognised that they played a bigger role in enhancing the match-day experience than I did. I genuinely hate a lot of grounds because of the terrible atmospheres - I've been to two away games this year (Birmingham and Reading) and was shocked at how awful the home ends were, and we lost both games! Ashton Gate is a lot worse now the EE is gone, which is why the minority trying to do something deserve all the credit.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

I cheer when they score, I contribute my money towards the club which ultimately pay the players wages, I join in with songs when they occasionally come up in the South Stand (although there hasn't been much to shout about) and I devote a lot of time and effort into the club. Why are others better supporters than me or any other average fan because they sing a few extra songs?

FWIW I only moved away from that section because I fancied a go in the new stand, can't say I've really missed it as I wouldn't have fancied standing and singing when we were getting trounced every week at home earlier in the season.

Just my opinion, if you support you are a better supporter. Makes sense to me. Of course though I appreciate fans who attend game after game, and those who are older that are unable to stand and sing for 90 minutes. But I'm sure if you asked the players who they appreciate most at home games and got a genuine response out of them, it will be those in the Atyeo. It really would make a difference if the rest of the ground could contribute like them. I remember Cotterill saying after the Swindon home game last season, that when the support is like that teams can't win here. He's right.

 

[Techno Natch]

You don't have to sing to be a good fan but having a good atmosphere and being a part of it adds a lot to the game for me. The club should be pleased that people want to make an atmosphere and should support them just like Palace have.

 

[TTOCS]

East East Eastenders...

I just hope I can remain with my friends amongst the 'singers' and also purchase a new season ticket for the missus to join us.

Doesnt seem likely based on the mumours from last weeks meeting... Which will be slightly bemusing in our 1/3rd empty stadium.

 

[Techno Natch]

Basically City will end up with a prettier version of Cardiff's half empty soulless monstrosity if they don't come up with something.

 

[TomPNE94]

Which is exactly why away games are 10x more enjoyable for me.

But seriously?? They sing first minute to last and outsing every single away following that come here. You must be choosing to ignore them.

Can you tell me what other ways there are of backing the team?

Didn't hear them once when I came down last month.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Didn't hear them once when I came down last month.

Was a pretty dire night all round that. I can't recall your lot making any noise either.

 

[Ciderup]

I wouldn't say so, everyone around me are the same faces that have been there for years. As someone said on OTIB before, modern football isn't always the problem, it's the modern fan that goes with it.

Maybe I'm one 'face' that isn't there, like many others that couldn't move. The BS3 atmosphere didn't start with the east end.We had the park end as well which was much noisier and where the modern day 'lads' went, the Dolman as well.To be called 'modern fans' by the likes of the modern day 'singer' is genuinely quite offensive and you're making yourselves out to be super fans which is utter shite mate! If the likes of S82 are given pricing priveledge, I would genuinely walk away as football would have gone too far. I'm serious BTW.
Do you honestly think we didn't make any noise in the past because, I can assure you, we would have blown your little tribe away, easily.
Pay the price, the same as your 'modern fan' does and stop being so bloody self important.
Singing / being an east ender / S82 makes people special? FFS!

 

[Ciderup]

Basically City will end up with a prettier version of Cardiff's half empty soulless monstrosity if they don't come up with something.

If what Aaron and TTOCS want, that's what we will get!
Self important 'super bastard fans' really boil my piss! We sing and you don't FFS! Just grow up kids.
You sing so you're better than me even though I've watched 41 years of this shit but you sing now so you're better. Fooking hilarious!
I guarantee one thing. If you lot from S82 get a better price than the 'lesser' fan, I will genuinely walk away from the club I have loved , with a passion, from the top division to the bottom and back, and be content with my decision as the game I have always loved would be dead!

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Maybe I'm one 'face' that isn't there, like many others that couldn't move. The BS3 atmosphere didn't start with the east end.We had the park end as well which was much noisier and where the modern day 'lads' went, the Dolman as well.To be called 'modern fans' by the likes of the modern day 'singer' is genuinely quite offensive and you're making yourselves out to be super fans which is utter shite mate! If the likes of S82 are given pricing priveledge, I would genuinely walk away as football would have gone too far. I'm serious BTW.
Do you honestly think we didn't make any noise in the past because, I can assure you, we would have blown your little tribe away, easily.
Pay the price, the same as your 'modern fan' does and stop being so bloody self important.
Singing / being an east ender / S82 makes people special? FFS!

Calm it. I'm not even in the Atyeo.

 

[Ciderup]

Calm it. I'm not even in the Atyeo.

Apologies, I thought you were a modern day 'uber' fan.

 

[JJH]

Didn't hear them once when I came down last month.

Cotterill made more night than the whole Atyeo that night when he let himself go at that fella down by the tunnel.

Ah, memories.

 

[JJH]

Apologies, I thought you were a modern day 'uber' fan.

I think the point he makes about fans singing at matches being better supporters than the ones who don't comes across that way, I don't agree with the fact that because a few like to turn up pissed and make a racket that they're superior fans, when there are older fans in the ground who in their heyday would have made an absolute mockery of the 'singing section' at AG (not knocking their efforts, trying to say that it's not as good as it's made out to be) but now opt to sit and enjoy the game and support the team in a different way.

Like I said before, each to their own. We all pay the same entry fee (at the moment anyway, and I'll be equally outraged if the singing section get reduced ticket prices) so you support the team how you wish to do so.

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

You've had rants on this kind of thing before Ciderup . I am fully aware that football back in your day was proper. I am fully aware of the old Ashton Gate, of the parkenders and of the noise that was generated. I'm not sure where on earth you've got the idea that I think football atmospheres were shite before, I'd kill to have experienced it. Unfortunately it's fucking shit now and, unlike you, I haven't been luckily enough to experience it when it was good.

Despite this, many fans who did experience it, and endlessly bang on about how great it was, are keen to endorse the sit in silence and occasionally clap shite. That's why I appreciate those in the Atyeo, previously in the East End, as they're the last bit of atmosphere still going.

 

[Ciderup]

I think the point he makes about fans singing at matches being better supporters than the ones who don't comes across that way, I don't agree with the fact that because a few like to turn up pissed and make a racket that they're superior fans, when there are older fans in the ground who in their heyday would have made an absolute mockery of the 'singing section' at AG (not knocking their efforts, trying to say that it's not as good as it's made out to be) but now opt to sit and enjoy the game and support the team in a different way.

Like I said before, each to their own. We all pay the same entry fee (at the moment anyway, and I'll be equally outraged if the singing section get reduced ticket prices) so you support the team how you wish to do so.

Totally agree but my point is that the modern day S82 mob need to get back in the SS and (once the Williams mob have fooked off to sleep in the West stand) those left will be up to make some noise!
I still object to being called a 'modern fan' by someone who was sucking his mums' tit when I was doing the 'singing' thing!

 

[Ciderup]

You've had rants on this kind of thing before Ciderup . I am fully aware that football back in your day was proper. I am fully aware of the old Ashton Gate, of the parkenders and of the noise that was generated. I'm not sure where on earth you've got the idea that I think football atmospheres were shite before, I'd kill to have experienced it. Unfortunately it's fucking shit now and, unlike you, I haven't been luckily enough to experience it when it was good.

Despite this, many fans who did experience it, and endlessly bang on about how great it was, are keen to endorse the sit in silence and occasionally clap shite. That's why I appreciate those in the Atyeo, previously in the East End, as they're the last bit of atmosphere still going.

So come back to the spiritual home of the 'noisier' City fan and spread the word. We're waiting! It feels like we are being crucified for getting older when we are waiting for you young 'uns to lead the chanting. We WILL join in, no doubt about it but the building work has buggered us all up!
Come into the SS and lead us old uns as we've got the next generation with us FFS!
BRING IT ON AND LET'S MAKE THE GATE INTIMIDATING AGAIN! There's no them and us just US! That's how it should be but the 14000 are being ignored as the 1400 are supposed 'super fans'!

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Totally agree but my point is that the modern day S82 mob need to get back in the SS and (once the Williams mob have fooked off to sleep in the West stand) those left will be up to make some noise!
I still object to being called a 'modern fan' by someone who was sucking his mums' tit when I was doing the 'singing' thing!

Stop getting so offended and worked up by one throwaway comment that wasn't even personally aimed at you, I'm not a fucking idiot mate.

 

[JoeJoeJoeJoe]

Stop getting so offended and worked up by one throwaway comment that wasn't even personally aimed at you, I'm not a fucking idiot mate.

Go back to sucking your mum's tit

 

[Aaron-Bcfc]

Go back to sucking your mum's tit

Fuck off you modern fan