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Wow we won a game!

Thought it was pretty even up until Dunk went off, after that we played some great stuff and the 3rd was a very good goal indeed. Hopefully that gives us a bit of confidence to play a bit more instead of aimless hoofs.

Really becoming a big fan of Lee, always looks to play a pass and Green started to play with real confidence toward the end. Still a bit worried by O'donnell though!

I don't think Cambridge should read too much into it, up until the sending off I thought they looked quite decent, albeit the game plan of knocking it to Corr and playing off him is quite obvious it was effective. Sort of wished we had signed him.

It looked a red to me BTW, Green had knocked it past him and he stuck his hand out to stop it. A tad harsh as it Was quite close quarters and more of a reaction than out of malice but you can't do that.
 
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Thought it was even up to the sending off, then typically we lost to another bang average team. Shit season just gets shitter.
 

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We were decent for 65 minutes and then we gave up. Losing with 10 men is forgivable. Showing the lack of effort and heart that we did after the red card isn't.

A lot of players need to have a word with themselves tonight because I'm furious with that.

The third goal was neat, granted, but we had several men back and not one put a fucking foot in.
 

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20 mins to go with the game evenly poised, the ref goes and ruins it. There was nothing between the two sides at this point, so this one is a hard one to take.

I thought CMS looked way too good for this league although that was Roberts' vest performance for us so far.
 

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The game could've gone either way until the sending off, I don't know how Dunk got sent off and Lee didn't. But oh well. Congrats Luton on your win and good luck until you play us again!
 

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Perhaps I saw a different game to the rest of us but firstly congrats to Luton on a fully deserved 3pts, first half was even but 2nd half their only looked one winner and that was Luton, from memory we had 3? Corners and Luton(without looking particularly threatening) just pissed all over us, the fact that money only made changes in the 90th min just makes me even more furious, I really don't give a fuck what any other u thinks but it's time for money to go, watching absolute shite at Home against shit like like that just isn't good enough.

As for Roberts at the back, what a joke!!!! Legge on the other hand is exactly what you need.

That's enough for now, I'll post more tomorrow when I'm in an more wankered state.


KTF
 

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Why do Luton play in orange and their away kit is white? I swear their traditional colour is white?

I know it's been that way a while just clicked on now to ask
 

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At the time I thought that the red card was harsh, but having seen the replay it does look like he blocked the ball and prevented Danny Green running into the ball. Letter of the law the referee is correct. His first challenge was poor anyway.

As for the game as a whole I thought it was very even first half and Cambridge the better side prior to the dismissal, not that I think it made much difference to the result anyway. After that we were far superior and the third goal really classy.

I think in August we'd have lost that one as at times we really needed to dig in and grind that one out. Our season starts now!
 

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At the time I thought that the red card was harsh, but having seen the replay it does look like he blocked the ball and prevented Danny Green running into the ball. Letter of the law the referee is correct. His first challenge was poor anyway.

As for the game as a whole I thought it was very even first half and Cambridge the better side prior to the dismissal, not that I think it made much difference to the result anyway. After that we were far superior and the third goal really classy.

I think in August we'd have lost that one as at times we really needed to dig in and grind that one out. Our season starts now!
The yellow for the handball was incredibly harsh having seen the highlights, it was very much ball to hand but arguing it was deliberate would be very difficult in my opinion. I've no problem with the free kick award however and ultimately that's how the goal game but you're chatting total shit (again) if you think that handball was worth a yellow card.

Dunk's first challenge was worse than it initially looked though you do see those often in a game and I'd have been upset if Dunk had been sent off for that. But yellow was correct there, no problem with that one.

But Kenny, how you think that having an extra man didn't affect the result is absurd. You were "far superior" because of that extra man. Grrrrr your football logic (or lack of) is infuriating sometimes.

Anyway we lost. Well done Luton. But any true football supporter knows how even that game was.
 

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I've already said Luton were better than us in the 2nd half, so I'm with Arbury on this one. However the fact is that it was Dunk, one of our better attacking players, who was sent off, and we all know the trouble he causes defenders when he goes on a run. So there was always a chance of getting something out of the game with him on the pitch. In short, even though I believe they would still have got the 3 pts in the end, the sending off made a big difference in that we may have been struggling before the sending off, but afterwards there was only one side in it.

Re. the handsball, it may have looked harsh, but it was deliberate, so no complaints from me.

Btw, the sooner Greg Taylor fcuks off the better. Useless waste of space.
 

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Was it really deliberate? I'm not so sure.
 

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Looool at Money melting down. Absolute stone-waller booking for that handball, he's practically caught the thing. First tackle was naughty too. No complaints whatsoever for the two yellows.

We were on top before the red anyway to be fair, although it certainly helped us break down the John Beck style defence.
 

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Forgot to say... Not shown in highlights package: how pathetic the decision for the free kick that resulted in Cambridge's goal was. "Soft" doesn't begin to cover it.

Money may complain about the ref, but anyone who was there would have seen how truly shocking he was towards us too. In the last few minutes, the ball went out of play for a throw in, the ref saw it, and quite literally waved play on. I've never seen anything quite like it, fortunately we were 3-1 up at that point. Even the TV camera man next to us was pissing himself. Legitimately the worst refereeing decision I've ever seen - not a case of judgement, a case of straight up not knowing the rules of football.
 

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That c*** Lee should have been in the stand for that clear elbow on Dunk. The ref was so fat he was a mile off from play.
 

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There were some very strange decisions made in the first half; second half I think the ref got the idea and allowed the game to flow. I'd be interested to find out how many times he blew up in that half!
 

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That c*** Lee should have been in the stand for that clear elbow on Dunk.
At the time I didn't see much wrong with the challenge, but I was at a bad angle.
 

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The yellow for the handball was incredibly harsh having seen the highlights, it was very much ball to hand but arguing it was deliberate would be very difficult in my opinion. I've no problem with the free kick award however and ultimately that's how the goal game but you're chatting total shit (again) if you think that handball was worth a yellow card.

Dunk's first challenge was worse than it initially looked though you do see those often in a game and I'd have been upset if Dunk had been sent off for that. But yellow was correct there, no problem with that one.

But Kenny, how you think that having an extra man didn't affect the result is absurd. You were "far superior" because of that extra man. Grrrrr your football logic (or lack of) is infuriating sometimes.

Anyway we lost. Well done Luton. But any true football supporter knows how even that game was.

Well there is no consensus on here that your opinion was correct, Laker. I think we still would've gone on to win the game, but it was a tough grind up until then.
 

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It was a shocker. The referee was the wrong side of it but the linesman would have seen it. The ref was so poor. Stopping play because a throw in was 2 yards from where it should have been. I feel he was buying time because he was so unfit.

How Luton fans can say they would have gone on to win the game is beyond me. The game was so evenly poised it would have been impossible to call.
 

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The linesman on that side didn't even call it as a foul actually, although he too made some very strange calls earlier in the game. The ref gets one look at it, a split second decision. I've looked at it a number of times and its still pretty dubious; I'm still going with the referee on that one.

On another matter, I didn't even realise until towards the end that the No.5 was Mark Roberts, such a thorn in Luton's side in the past. He looked slow and Mackail-Smith caused him all sorts of problems second half. Leon Legge looked far superior.
 

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Roberts' legs have gone, no doubt about that. CMS will cause many defenders problems with his pace and never say die attitude. I thought he was excellent. I'm, just not sure he will get you enough goals.

Leon Legge and Barry Corr have been our best signings this summer to date, no doubt about it.
 

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CMS will cause many defenders problems with his pace and never say die attitude. I thought he was excellent. I'm, just not sure he will get you enough goals.
Craig is getting better and fitter every game - he's scored 2 in 6 so far, which isn't too bad considering he's at a new club and coming off a long injury lay off. If he can get 15-20, I'll be happy, as I think we've got goals coming from several places on the park. He offers a lot more to us than just goals.
 

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It speaks to Wilkinson slyness that everyone has missed probably one of the more egregious fouls (wasn't called though!) of the game, his blatant elbow on Corr in the first half after he was none too happy with a challenge he had put in on him in the first minute or so. Even gave him a bit of verbal whilst on the floor. After that Corr was very happy to play against Cuthbert!! I like Wilko but can be a bit brainless at times, luckily nobody saw it.

The ref was very poor and gave some odd descisions, that looked
Like he wasn't actually aware of the rules, at one point he counted out about 8 yards for a free kick, to which both Wilkinson and Corr were having a good laugh at his expense about.
 

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Why do Luton play in orange and their away kit is white? I swear their traditional colour is white?

I know it's been that way a while just clicked on now to ask

We had an orange kit back in the 70s and changed to it back in the conference to match with the easyjet sponsorship and apparently some of our board started watching us then and wanted the orange back for retro/throwback purposes.

We then had a vote about it on our return to the league if we wanted the orange or the white to return and orange won, I personally prefer white but there you go.

The "image rights" have since then been entrusted to the supporters so if the club is sold an owner can't come in and change the logo, colours etc a la Cardiff/Hull without consulting the fans first so Orange seems to be staying for a good while yet unfortunately.
 

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any colour is better than our first ever kit.....pink and mauve?? Looked like a bunch of gay jockeys!!
 

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I would say it was probably 60/40 Luton up until the red card but it certainly could have gone either way at that point. What was frustrating was conceding the goal immediately afterwards and the fact that we just never got going after that, maybe if the goal had come 5 minutes after the red card we might've had a bit more fight but the double whammy just seemed to destroy us mentally, which doesn't take a lot at the moment.

I couldn't see the handball incident properly at the time and still haven't seen it back so can't comment, the first yellow looked like a great challenge to me though, don't see what Dunk did wrong. Ref just wasn't great all round yesterday.

I think for us it's obvious and generally agreed that Demetriou, Corr and Legge were our best players, and Roberts, Donaldson and Berry our worst, for differing reasons (the former two just being plain terrible, Berry just being anonymous, for that I don't blame him I blame the style of play in recent games, he was absolutely fine at Carlisle and Wimbledon). I don't think Dunn and Taylor quite deserve some of the criticism they're getting, they played better than usual, although that's not saying much, sadly what it comes down to again is Money's faith in Dunn and Taylor as RB cover before the season started and not getting in better options when I think most of us knew we needed to. I said before Barnet pick a keeper and stick with him so I'd absolutely still stick with Dunn, but again, none of the keepers on our books are good enough for what we want to achieve this season, luckily for them most of the rest of the team are bringing themselves down to their level!

Luton will be up challenging for the top 3, they just had a slow start, so I'm not too concerned about the result in isolation, but again it's these factors that have built up over the previous games this season, and at the end of last season that have carried on. If we're going to play 4-4-2, we need to get in a genuine right winger on loan, we don't have anyone who can do that job at the moment, and whatever the hell is wrong with Omozusi needs to be sorted out quickly so he can get a run of games under his belt.

With Dunk's suspension I'd like us to go 5 at the back next week, Omozusi-Coulson-Legge-Taft-Demetriou, Newton-Berry/Keane-Morrissey in the middle and Corr and Simpson up top, but I suspect we'll go 4-4-2, play Roberts, put Donaldson on one wing and probably plug someone else on the other wing who shouldn't be there, and probably start Slew, and I suspect we'll lose to an Orient team looking to bounce back. With a 3 year contract given to him using heart over head, Money has plenty of time to keep pissing around before his position becomes slightly under pressure.
 

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Craig is getting better and fitter every game - he's scored 2 in 6 so far, which isn't too bad considering he's at a new club and coming off a long injury lay off. If he can get 15-20, I'll be happy, as I think we've got goals coming from several places on the park. He offers a lot more to us than just goals.

I'm not sure he'll make it as high as 15 to be honest, we don't create enough clear cut chances or provide him with the type of service he wants. His goals so far have been a penalty and a worldie from absolutely nothing. He's only missed one clear cut chance that I can recall (vs Oxford).

He's still going to be a key player for us because, as you say, he provides more than goals. Constant work rate makes him a pain in the arse, and he seems to have limitless stamina - he was running at the same speeds after 10 minutes and after 80 minutes. You could see Roberts struggling more and more as time ticked on. CMS also has some decent link-up play; not a great first touch to be honest, but he's got some really clever flicks and backheels round the corner in his locker.

I reckon he'll score similar numbers to Cullen last season, but provide much more to the team than Cullen did so an undoubted big upgrade.
 

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the first yellow looked like a great challenge to me though, don't see what Dunk did wrong.

:bg: It was a terrible tackle, ball had gone and he absolutely clattered Guttridge. Yellow was the right call, but it was the type of tackle that you've seen straight reds given for loads of times (the Channel 5 guys said the same thing).


Still can't get over the ref waving to play the advantage and allowing Cambridge to keep playing after the ball had gone out for a throw in. Honestly never seen anything quite like that in all my years of football.
 

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