Champions League 2017/18

[St. Juste]

If, for example, a country was five times the size of another one, but football was 20% as popular, would you still expect the larger country to be 5 times better?

Quite obviously, no.

But the question, if phrased better, has a certain degree of merit.

Let's say hypothetically football is three times as popular in Scotland as it is in Kazakhstan. Would the TV deals be roughly similar? Well, no, because in Kazakhstan they could see potential growth in the football TV market. There is a much wider audience to be tapped.

In Scotland football is already incredibly popular, it has reached it's realistic potential, but that is not the case in many other countries.

Even in my hypothetical scenario Kazakhstan would be getting a bigger TV deal.

 

[epic73]

Quite obviously, no.

But the question, if phrased better, has a certain degree of merit.

Let's say hypothetically football is three times as popular in Scotland as it is in Kazakhstan. Would the TV deals be roughly similar? Well, no, because in Kazakhstan they could see potential growth in the football TV market. There is a much wider audience to be tapped.

In Scotland football is already incredibly popular, it has reached it's realistic potential, but that is not the case in many other countries.

Even in my hypothetical scenario Kazakhstan would be getting a bigger TV deal.

I'm not even going to bother responding to this.

 

[St. Juste]

I'm not even going to bother responding to this.

I wish you had taken that viewpoint from the start. You don't seem to grasp even the basic points of this debate.

 

[epic73]

 

[G-Dragon]

Inb4 an easy win tmr!

 

[Bilo]

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[SALTIRE]

So frustrating, we should've won that 8 - 1 with the very good chances we created. Spartak were there for the taking. Beginning to be the story of our season this.

 

[epic73]

Inb4 an easy win tmr!

 

[SALTIRE]

It should've been though, we crushed them. 121 shots in the last few games, but only 6 goals, that's the story.

 

[Dirk]

So frustrating, we should've won that 8 - 1 with the very good chances we created. Spartak were there for the taking. Beginning to be the story of our season this.

should've would've could've or as we Germans say "Hätte der Hund nicht geschissen, hätte er den Hasen gekriegt" (no translation )

German clubs are quite shite this year in the CL( and in Europa League too), so far, in 5 matches only 1 win by Bayern. Dortmund again with a 1-3 loss and with 0 pts nearly out of contention for #2 spot. Leipzig still too wet behind the ears with an 0-2 loss.

With this catastrophic start in the new European season the Bundesliga already lost #2 spot in UEFA's 5 years valuation to the Premier League and Italy will maybe jump at #3. OK, it isn't so dangerous because the top 4 leagues have 4 places guaranteed beginning from the next season and the french Ligue 1 at #5 is actually too far away but I can't remember such a bad start from German teams in the European competitions like in this season (and I watch since the 70's )

 

[SALTIRE]

should've would've could've or as we Germans say "Hätte der Hund nicht geschissen, hätte er den Hasen gekriegt" (no translation )

I only know one German quote and it might fit for Liverpool's issues currently: 'Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!'

 

[Dirk]

I only know one German quote and it might fit for Liverpool's issues currently: 'Wir müssen wissen — wir werden wissen!'

David Hilbert.

Dortmund needs now such a mathematical genius when calculating their slim hopes for #2 spot

 

[Benji]

Chelsea look very good against Atletico. Very much controlling the pace of the game, you would think they were at home at a glance.

 

[DarkSithLord]

3-0 up and cruising against Moscow. So so easy. Moscow are awful. Realistic for 6 wins from this group.

 

[mistermagic]

German clubs are quite shite this year in the CL( and in Europa League too), so far, in 5 matches only 1 win by Bayern. Dortmund again with a 1-3 loss and with 0 pts nearly out of contention for #2 spot. Leipzig still too wet behind the ears with an 0-2 loss.

Are you surprised at Dortmund's poor start though? Bosz has little experience in pretty much everything apart from giving youth its chance and they just don't look that threatening (yes, I do know they just dicked Gladbach 6-1). Same with Bayern really. We're winning 2-0 at half-time (not watching) and it doesn't surprise me. They look worse than last season and they weren't that good then.

Chelsea fell a goal behind in Madrid tonight. Strangely, Conte didn't go with 343 but decided to put Fabregas deep alongside Bakayoko which made for a 3412 early on with Kante playing behind Morata and Hazard. That's a bit strange isn't it? Fabregas is playing a deep-lying position and Kante is pressing players? The Spaniard was awful early on but has since done some good things. As the half wore, Chelsea went to 352 with Kante playing on the same line as the other two. They look more balanced that way but lack any penetration going forward. Both wing-backs, Moses and Alonso have zero impact on the flanks.
Atletico haven't done anything mind apart from just sitting there. The goal came from a stupid and unnecessary David Luiz shirt-pulling in the penalty area. What a clown that guy is. Saying this, for all the possession Chelsea have had, they really should have worried Oblak more.
Griezmann isn't playing very well. Correa is the best player on the pitch so far for me.

I look forward to the second half.

 

[Benji]

Good header from Morata to equalise. Understated and effective. If a player like Ronaldo had that chance, he would have power headered it to the near side. A cool and classy player like Morata will just flick it in the far side, and some will think he didn't even touch it.

 

[DarkSithLord]

Bloody hell. How bad are CSKA?

And Benfica 3-0 down to Basel?

This group.

 

[4froale]

Fair play to Chelsea, that was a fantastic performance away against a team who are formidable on home turf. Enjoyed that game.

 

[Super_horns]

Not a bad night for British sides and PSG look like they sent out a strong statement hammering Bayern but then they beat Barca 4-0 at home last season..

 

[Blitzballer]

Warning may "trigger" Liverpool fans

 

[Dirk]

Are you surprised at Dortmund's poor start though? Bosz has little experience in pretty much everything apart from giving youth its chance and they just don't look that threatening (yes, I do know they just dicked Gladbach 6-1).

Naivety it was against Real. And Swiss flycatcher Bürki again with a goal that a good goalkeeper would've saved. They really need a better one imo.

Same with Bayern really. We're winning 2-0 at half-time (not watching) and it doesn't surprise me. They look worse than last season and they weren't that good then.

Wait...you're a PSG fan and you're watching the Chelsea match instead? I'll never understand the frenchmen
Anyway, I really liked to watch PSG scoring after 80 secs. Although Bayern had what...60-70 percent Ball possession and 17-1 corners and more shots on goal than PSG, they never looked like that they could threaten PSG.
Carlo Ancelotti will see difficult times ahead of him. But it won't bother him, he looks so bored.

OK, my statement from yesterday still stands. So this CL matchday sees 3 losses in 3 matches, that's shite and feels like watching HSV in the Bundesliga

 

[SALTIRE]

Aye it was all huff and puff from Bayern without really looking like doing much. PSG look superb with that frontline and Alves supporting them.

Celtic managed to clock a good win away from home too, maybe they could challenge Bayern for that second spot yet!

 

[epic73]

Basel 5-0 Benfica

 

[St. Juste]

That was the best result from an English side in Europe for a long time.

Interesting to note, there was 4 times as many Spanish players in the Chelsea first XI than English players (5 times as many if you count the bench).

 

[Dirk]

That was the best result from an English side in Europe for a long time.

Interesting to note, there was 4 times as many Spanish players in the Chelsea first XI than English players (5 times as many if you count the bench).

Chelsea had even more Spanish players in their starting XI than Atletico. 4 to 3 (if I counted right). That's the modern mercenary football.

 

[mistermagic]

Wait...you're a PSG fan and you're watching the Chelsea match instead? I'll never understand the frenchmen

Couldn't be fucked looking for a link. Plus PSG are boring to watch and have been for years. I like to change once in a while.

 

[Dirk]

Couldn't be fucked looking for a link.

Is this match not shown live in french free TV? Unthinkable in Germany ( at least up until this season. From next season bloody PayTV Sky has the complete rights for the first time ever we won't be able to see CL matches in FreeTV then. Damn this shit broadcaster.)

Plus PSG are boring to watch and have been for years. I like to change once in a while.

really? Hm, okay.

 

[mistermagic]

Is this match not shown live in french free TV? Unthinkable in Germany ( at least up until this season. From next season bloody PayTV Sky has the complete rights for the first time ever we won't be able to see CL matches in FreeTV then. Damn this shit broadcaster.)

Unthinkable? When I was living in Munich, only the Wednesday game was shown on free TV (zdf). The Tuesday game I had to stream. I highly doubt things are different in Hamburg. EL games were on free tv.

And yes, the thought of watching the same team every single week bores me to death.

 

[Dirk]

Unthinkable? When I was living in Munich, only the Wednesday game was shown on free TV (zdf). The Tuesday game I had to stream. I highly doubt things are different in Hamburg. EL games were on free tv.

So what? The PSG vs Bayern Munich game was on Wednesday and therefore was shown on FreeTV (besides the Sky PayTV broadcast). That's why I asked why you couldn't see this match. Do you get nothing in French Free TV?

And yes, the thought of watching the same team every single week bores me to death.

Again: Really? Hm, okay.
I hope watching France at the World Cup won't bore you to death too, because they have to play then every 3-4 days

edit: Today, german footy mag kicker wrote on it's homepage that Bayern Boss Uli Hoeneß stated that 5 Players were against Carlo Ancelotti and that the crack between coach and team couldn't be repaired.

 

[mistermagic]

So what? The PSG vs Bayern Munich game was on Wednesday and therefore was shown on FreeTV (besides the Sky PayTV broadcast). That's why I asked why you couldn't see this match. Do you get nothing in French Free TV?

Not much apart from the France game and one EL game (Lyon/Atalanta was on free tv on Thursday evening as well as on cable). Canal+ has the right for one game each CL matchday (turned out to be PSG/Bayern this week) and the rest is on BeIn.