European Union Referendum

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ahahahahaha. IDS's actual exit plan

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Jam tomorrow from the hard Brexiters!!!!
 

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Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
So... Brexit means 'allowing doctors to stay' until we manage to train enough people to do their jobs, and then deporting the filthy foreign c***.

And picking fruit.
 

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So... Brexit means 'allowing doctors to stay' until we manage to train enough people to do their jobs, and then deporting the filthy foreign c***.

Yes. People voted to leave the European Union. The government has a mandate to do its best to (in the long term) remove as many European Union nationals as possible. This is what the country wants.
 

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Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
The margin was narrow. Did the majority of people voting really vote to tell doctors to fuck off? Really?
 

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The margin was narrow. Did the majority of people voting really vote to tell doctors to fuck off? Really?

If they are from the EU, then yes. You'd have to be an idiot not to realise that voting to leave the EU wouldn't have an effect on this area. I guess people think it's a price worth paying for their blue passports or whatever it is they think they'll get from leaving the EU.
 
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Macclesfield Town/Manchester City. It's complicated.
So 98% of everyone who voted out were voting to 'send the buggers back'?

Even though most of the medical staff in the NHS who aren't British, aren't EU either?
 

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British doctors preferable to the best doctors. It's Brexit.

Did anyone see this Davis quote? "We have to make sure our own population are ready and equipped to work."

Our own population.

Us vs Them

There'll be a job at a nearby university soon as my German friend is unlikely to stay lecturing for much longer in the current climate. I guess we can employ one of those out of work British evolutionary biologists to take his role. There's loads of them about I imagine.
 
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It's a bizarre frame of mind you have to be in to think that the optimal long-term plan is to import labour en masse while making no special effort to adequately train and educate your own people.

How long before someone trots out the line about British workers being lazy?
 

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Is it really 'importing labour' when it's via freedom of movement? We are European citizens afterall. Government failures in education and training are a failure in their own right, and don't need to be coupled with immigration to legtimise calling it a problem.
 

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"If you're a citizen of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere."

I didn't watch May's speech, but could someone - Alty? - contextualise this in a way that is not extremely fucking scary?
 
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"If you're a citizen of the world, you're a citizen of nowhere."

I didn't watch May's speech, but could someone - Alty? - contextualise this in a way that is not extremely fucking scary?
The speech as a whole had a lot for traditional Labour voters. Praising Attlee. Acknowledging that living standards weren't rising for working class people (note - she used the phrase "working class" several times). Talk of a bigger role for the state in mitigating the effects of the free market system. And a lot of stuff about community, showing this is not Thatcher 2.0.

Re the EU and migration - May has acknowledged that for many people it's just completely unfathomable that at a time of squeezed living standards and with all the difficulties finding homes for people we'd allow massive expansion of the unskilled labour market and net migration of a third of a million. Of course immigration brings benefits but the major problems it poses were ignored and ignored and ignored. May appears to be addressing them head on now. Coming up with a perfect immigration system is almost impossible but it's high time we did away with the 'anyone can come' policy enforced on us by the EU. Great for business owners who can have their pick from the surfeit of workers. Shite for the average working class person who finds their wages/hours cut and, potentially, their community transformed.
 

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Opposing the pedestrianisation of Norwich city centre!!!!
I can't believe people can actually swallow the bullshit that the Tories are for the working class. I know politics has moved on and the political landscape has changed but fucking hell.
 

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I can't believe people can actually swallow the bullshit that the Tories are for the working class. I know politics has moved on and the political landscape has changed but fucking hell.
the tories wanted to remain didnt they???????
 

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