European Union Referendum

[smat]

yes indeed!

Good news for NERDS, which is automatically bad news for major jocks like me.

 

[mnb089mnb]

Any of our London based 1FFers fancy working for Google? Well they're creating a new UK HQ with 3000 jobs worth 1Bn quid, in "a decision taken post Brexit". Just don't go building killer robots ok.

Another blow for the complacent metropolitan elite.

 

[silkyman]

Why does anyone think that Google wouldn't want to work in the post brexit UK? It's a UK hq, not a European one. That's in Dublin.

 

[silkyman]

Anyway. This is interesting.
The CPS is investigating whether the leave campaign was so dishonest as to have been illegal.
http://churchcourtchambers.co.uk/sh...um-propaganda-an-article-by-anthony-eskander/

And part of the Leave campaign basically admit that they didn't want to let facts get in the way.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...toxify-referendum-debate-brexit-a7421206.html

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Why does anyone think that Google wouldn't want to work in the post brexit UK? It's a UK hq, not a European one. That's in Dublin.

They've already got perfectly good UK offices dotted around London and it's current biggest building in your back yard Silky of Manchester. They don't need to spend 1Bn on a larger London office and an increased number of jobs, logically they wouldn't do it unless they feel that their UK market will grow necessitating that their UK operations grow to match. They certainly wouldn't be doing that if they feared that lots of companies and chunks of the economy were going to run away from the UK.

 

[Aber gas]

Corrupt, dodgy and about to be a bit poorer.
https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp....roup-to-repay-almost-150000-in-misspent-funds

 

[Aber gas]

They've already got perfectly good UK offices dotted around London and it's current biggest building in your back yard Silky of Manchester. They don't need to spend 1Bn on a larger London office and an increased number of jobs, logically they wouldn't do it unless they feel that their UK market will grow necessitating that their UK operations grow to match. They certainly wouldn't be doing that if they feared that lots of companies and chunks of the economy were going to run away from the UK.

Think of all that lovely tax we'll get too.

 

[Alty]

Government are saying "erm fake".

Alty quoted as saying "don't really see the problem tbh."

I don't think anyone could deny the Government and civil service were unprepared for Brexit. But that's because the leadership cadre around Cameron wanted it that way. Brexit wasn't happening and that was that. Everyone was expected to carry on as normal.

I think now we're getting close to a decent position from which to start negotiations. In my own job I have to work a fair amount with the Department for Exiting the European Union (less so Department for International Trade) and after a slightly chaotic first few months, they seem to have got their shit together and have some good people in post now. Within other departments they've also created created Brexit teams/directorates, so things are looking pretty solid.

The stuff about needing tens of thousands of new civil servants is complete horse shit.

On Google - can't say I'm over the moon or anything. Despite apparently being a right-wing xenophobe now I do still abhor tax-dodging, after all. But this does go to prove that the mass flight of major companies from the UK we were all warned about doesn't appear to be happening. Guess we can chalk that up as #2 on the Remain campaign's most egregious lies after the punishment budget.

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Without wishing to state the bleedin' obvious we haven't exited yet so it's a bit soon to draw any firm conclusions on that front. "Egregious lies" indeed!

Still can't get used to have an actual Department for Exiting the European Union

 

[The Paranoid Pineapple]

Cheering to see that BoJo's making a good early impression tho http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-37995606

 

[Red]

Why does anyone think that Google wouldn't want to work in the post brexit UK? It's a UK hq, not a European one. That's in Dublin.

I was watching the CEO of Google on the news the other day, He was saying this move has been three years in the making, ergo nothing to do with Brexit.

 

[.V.]

If we want a good deal from the EU, should we delay triggering article 50?

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/the-folly-of-triggering-article-50.html?m=1

 

[Alty]

If we want a good deal from the EU, should we delay triggering article 50?

https://mainlymacro.blogspot.co.uk/2016/11/the-folly-of-triggering-article-50.html?m=1

Crap article. If Labour backs Brexit it'll get fewer votes than the Lib Dems? Do me a favour.

 

[.V.]

Crap article. If Labour backs Brexit it'll get fewer votes than the Lib Dems? Do me a favour.

It was more about triggering article 50 weakens our negotiating position.

 

[johnnytodd]

i want a riot before xmas, need a few telly's and stuff for family.

 

[Destruction]

It was more about triggering article 50 weakens our negotiating position.

Merkel and Co aren't stupid, they won't start negotiating until it's been triggered. And we'll be fucked trying to sort it all in two years. Good times.

 

[.V.]

Farage really wants to take back control?

http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/201...-ukip-leader-wants-uk-to-be-a-servant-of-trum

 

[silkyman]

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/22743...pe-as-she-admits-brexit-is-keeping-her-awake/

Erm.....

 

[Aber gas]

Cheers silky. I've given the Sun a click.

 

[.V.]

If her faith shapes her politics and her governments policies, perhaps she should read Matthew 25: 31-46.

 

[Aber gas]

Thick as pig shit.
https://twitter.com/nicktolhurst/status/803642492101001216

 

[johnnytodd]

I can see the EU stopping all freedom of movement to all its members in order to save the whole thing.

Another prediction from JT.

XX

 

[Dirk]

I can see the EU stopping all freedom of movement to all its members in order to save the whole thing.

Another false prediction from JT.

XX

corrected it for you, johnny

Freedom of movement is a core value of the whole thing. No chance that your "prediction" will become true. And rightly so, just because you Brits don't want it anymore doesn't mean the rest of the EU is on the same side.

Personally, this free movement is a high value that I don't want to miss. Without it I would never have had the chance to work as an engineer in France and Belgium because the job description had to be shown EU wide and so I could apply for it back then. An experience I don't want to miss (OK, without free movement you can work in France and Belgium too but this whole thing would be a lot more difficult). So, NO! Free movement won't vanish.

 

[johnnytodd]

corrected it for you, johnny

Freedom of movement is a core value of the whole thing. No chance that your "prediction" will become true. And rightly so, just because you Brits don't want it anymore doesn't mean the rest of the EU is on the same side.

Personally, this free movement is a high value that I don't want to be missed. Without it I would never have had the chance to work as an engineer in France and Belgium because the job descriptrion was shown EU wide and so I could apply for it back then. An experience I don't want to miss (OK, without free movement you can work in France and Belgium too but this whole thing would be a lot more difficult). So, NO! Free movement won't vanish, rightly so!

Wrong Dirk, i know plenty of English people who worked in Germany in the 80's and there was no free movement.........supply and demand mate, mark my words all this stalling and rise of the right will make them change it to Europe as it is but no free movement.

 

[Dirk]

Did you read my post thoroughly? I don't think so because I mentioned it that you can work in foreign countries even without the EU free movement but it makes it way more complicated. For me, working in France and Belgium as an EU citizen wasn't much more difficult than to move from Hamburg to Hannover in Germany for a new job.

 

[johnnytodd]

Did you read my post thoroughly? I don't think so because I mentioned it that you can work in foreign countries even without the EU free movement but it makes it way more complicated. For me, working in France and Belgium as an EU citizen wasn't much more difficult than to move from Hamburg to Hannover in Germany for a new job.

yeah but have you ever worked outside Germany?

 

[Dirk]

yeah but have you ever worked outside Germany?

Now it's obvious that you didn't read my post thoroughly. I mentioned it that I worked in France and Belgium as an Engineer.

 

[johnnytodd]

Now it's obvious that you didn't read my post thoroughly. I mentioned it that I worked in France and Belgium as an Engineer.

do you think free movement will stay or vanish then?

 

[Dirk]

Is this comedy here?

Read my first post of today, there's already my answer.

 

[johnnytodd]

Is this comedy here?

Read my first post of today, there's already my answer.

which thread did you first post on today?