Friday 12th & Saturday 13th November

[Sestonpoolie]

Thought slim pickings was a country & western singer! did'nt realise he played for you, bit over the hill now if your chasing the game he has to be twice the age of ellison.

Ellison is one of those twats you love to hate,but would love him in your team.
The game was petering out for a draw,until he came on & completely unsettled thecPools defence.

 

[valefan16]

Think today, we cancelled each other out. It showed that you are technically better than us but we worked hard as a team. We had a massive stroke of luck in the first half but probably deserve a ref decision going our way. Until the 85th min, we had the better of the chances. Your goal was the type we give away every game. Think you should let us have your no 10. A free transfer perhaps?

You’ve had Jones and Knott but think TC will be our your reach unfortunately. If we don’t go up I expect we will lose him for a big fee.

Getting greedy now you’ve had Theo Robinson what more do you want

Plus we don’t sell for peanuts and a bag of pork scratchings now we are run properly!

Fair assessment although felt we worked the keeper more (all be it from range). We had the footballers that were technical but lacked the physical side… could of done with Leggey for the goal as that doesn’t happen with him there and missed maybe Procs competing aerially up top.

Was a good old battle and enjoyed it. Draw the right outcome.

 

[Robshep]

We’ve scored 12 goals in 16 games!!

I’ve seen a few comments this week saying we don’t look that bad. I appreciate that we try play some neat stuff on the half way line but we are completely toothless with no cutting edge. Defensively, you’re right, we’re not great but our main problem lies up front because we don’t have a striker. I’d rather we had a few cloggers and just hoofed it. Without additions in Jan, we’re down.

Lucky you.

 

[Trapdoor]

Strange, I thought he was good for the first half hour, just needed someone to spot his passes.
He did fade second half so I wasn't surprised he went off

Thats how I saw it as well. Flair player who was on a higher wavelength to those around him. Looked talented, but that team needs to fix their basics.

 

[AdamStag]

Ellison is one of those twats you love to hate,but would love him in your team.
The game was petering out for a draw,until he came on & completely unsettled thecPools defence.

he’s been doing that for years, to say he still does it at 86 is an amazing effort

 

[loz]

now we are run properly!

That's good to see. We've had a few battles through the years. Might be my imagination but I seem to think that the last time you went up automatically, we went up with you.

 

[kieran_vale]

That's good to see. We've had a few battles through the years. Might be my imagination but I seem to think that the last time you went up automatically, we went up with you.

We did. It was Gillingham, Rotherham and us automatically and you went up in the playoffs. Basically our clubs just follow each other round so it’s in our interests for both of us to want the other to go up as the other will too then.

 

[The Terminator]

2 points dropped for us again today away from home, we're not quite seeing games out away from home unless we manage to kill the game quickly. Apart from the first and last minute we actually put in another decent performance and should've done more with the chances we got in the first half IMO.

A few decisions went in our favour, defend Shad Ogie was lucky not to be sent off - think the Rochdale players OTT reaction probably saved him, but he did put his head into his opponents. Our first goal was borderline offside, one of those very, very tight calls which can go either way.

Rochdale were a tidy side I thought, but they had an error in them at the back - they overpassed it on alot of occasions and lost the ball in dangerous areas too often, something which annoyed me that we didn't capitalise on.

Draw probably fair overall, but I felt we did enough to earn the win. Our away record is W1 D6 L1 - This is either going to ruin us come May when we look back, or it might not be so bad. When we beat teams - its usually convincing by a few goals, not quite seeing these odd goal wins out.

 

[valefan16]

Yeah noticed that too. Poor.

Not really sure that’s fair…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1459652321206575112

Arm is out blocks his run. If intentional that’s a naughty one, not that dissimilar to Rodney’s retrospective one at Swindon.

Having a better view of the keeper incident, he gets a toe on the ball which probably saves it being a red but that’s a foul and card. It’s very high and gets Rodney high on the follow through. Outfield player does that middle of the pitch it’s given.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Not really sure that’s fair…

https://twitter.com/x/status/1459652321206575112

Arm is out blocks his run. If intentional that’s a naughty one, not that dissimilar to Rodney’s retrospective one at Swindon.

Having a better view of the keeper incident, he gets a toe on the ball which probably saves it being a red but that’s a foul and card. It’s very high and gets Rodney high on the follow through. Outfield player does that middle of the pitch it’s given.

Terrible angle of the incident. Canavans arm was out stretched fully and he was looking at the ball, your player tried to get him sent off simple as that.

 

[valefan16]

Terrible angle of the incident. Canavans arm was out stretched fully and he was looking at the ball, your player tried to get him sent off simple as that.

He takes an arm in the face and is blocked. Not saying it’s a red, if intent you could argue it but less clear cut but he knows what he’s doing in blocking the run which is a foul and does he need to have his arm up like that? Not leverage as he’s not jumping so no need for it to be raised. Don’t think Lloyd is trying to get him sent off he’s just been blocked with a raised arm. He took Lloyd out off the ball 2 or 3 times in the last few minutes so wasn’t the first time.

The pundits on quest felt the Canavan one was a straight red.

 

[masi51]

When i was here last season i seemed to remember at least 6 Tranmere posters
Just came on to see if they still frequent here.
I dont keep up to lge 2 as much now. By the way how did Tranmere go on yesterday...............Asking for a freind

 

[Trapdoor]

Blah blah blah trolling

F- attempt at WUMing.

 

[Soz]

felt a draw was fair although I'd rather have been playing 10 men for 60 minutes.

i think smith was a bit fortunate ref wise but there was 3-4 he let go from bradford, such as the guy that took worrall down when he played on.

as for the other ones - i actually felt Rodney fouled their keeper to be honest. their keeper took the ball first, wasn't high, wasn't out of control, and rodders just ran into the side of him. lloyd was caught on one occasion - guess its the video from above, but there were 2 others which he pretty much dived on for me. didn't like it, felt like we were trying to play the victim rather than play a game of football at that point.

i think we edged the game overall in terms of chances, their keeper made more good saves than ours, and pretty gutting that smith just passed them the ball for the goal when he could have smashed it out for a throw. but we didn't do enough to win it really.

 

[Conker]

Bloody hell, we won again.

Don’t win forever and then go and win 4 on the bounce, like buses.

Sounded like stevenage were unlucky, thankfully they have jamie reid upfront, who isn’t a footballer

We look completely different now our injured players are back, hopefully we can keep a bit of a run going now.

 

[AdamStag]

We look completely different now our injured players are back, hopefully we can keep a bit of a run going now.

Yeah, i’m not expecting miracles but the luck we had with injuries and suspensions was frankly ridiculous and i don’t believe any side will have such a scenario like that this season.

Scunny at home next week is a brilliant chance to move further up the league, though knowing us its the type of game we’ll go on and lose!

 

[Boz]

Micky Mellon needs to realise that one up front isn't working; Nevitt the current holder of the forward place is a relatively raw player recruited from the depths of the pyramids is a work in progress, Dieseruvwe from his career stats seems incapable of scoring save once in a blue moon and there's nobody else capable of playing the lone striker role in the current squad. Time to change the record. While we would probably have still lost playing a more attacking line-up as in the Oldham Pizza Cup game, think the fans would have rather we lost playing more adventurously. There were some murmurings about Mellon's future, as I left the game. While he's safe for now and realistically the best option we could have, a continued slump coupled with the unattractive football continuing [only 1 shot on target in the last two league home games] may change how those in charge see things.

Sutton deserved their victory, had a good chance to take the lead in the first half, but headed against the post. While their goal did come from a defensive mistake, Olaofe pressured Clarke then took full advantage. He was probably their stand out player, but they played well as a team unit and they look a comfortable upper mid-table team, with a chance of the play-offs.

 

[Robshep]

When i was here last season i seemed to remember at least 6 Tranmere posters
Just came on to see if they still frequent here.
I dont keep up to lge 2 as much now. By the way how did Tranmere go on yesterday...............Asking for a freind

You are on here every single day because hardly anybody on the league 1 forum replies to your bullshit. Try tinder or grinder if you are desperate for some love

 

[masi51]

You are on here every single day because hardly anybody on the league 1 forum replies to your bullshit. Try tinder or grinder if you are desperate for some love

Did you have much luck on it !!

 

[leedsvaliant]

Micky Mellon needs to realise that one up front isn't working; Nevitt the current holder of the forward place is a relatively raw player recruited from the depths of the pyramids is a work in progress, Dieseruvwe from his career stats seems incapable of scoring save once in a blue moon and there's nobody else capable of playing the lone striker role in the current squad. Time to change the record. While we would probably have still lost playing a more attacking line-up as in the Oldham Pizza Cup game, think the fans would have rather we lost playing more adventurously. There were some murmurings about Mellon's future, as I left the game. While he's safe for now and realistically the best option we could have, a continued slump coupled with the unattractive football continuing [only 1 shot on target in the last two league home games] may change how those in charge see things.

Sutton deserved their victory, had a good chance to take the lead in the first half, but headed against the post. While their goal did come from a defensive mistake, Olaofe pressured Clarke then took full advantage. He was probably their stand out player, but they played well as a team unit and they look a comfortable upper mid-table team, with a chance of the play-offs.

I'm surprised with Tranmere. Looked decent at vale and were just lacking that clinical player. Expected them to be pushing top 3 really.

Mellon can't be on that solid ground really. I would have thought with your squad and fan base that it's play offs minimum target.

 

[Bottega Don]

Tranmere are clearly missing Keith "Best win percentage in club history" Hill, would be in the play-offs with him

 

[RLC]

Tranmere are clearly missing Keith "Best win percentage in club history" Hill, would be in the play-offs with him

He was the beginning of our problems actually. After the injury to James Vaughan last season, we were absolutely woeful for three months, and barely scored a goal in fifteen games.

We still have not recruited a competent striker to replace Vaughan and have massive problems in the final third, but Mellon has at least kept us respectably in mid table. We would be in a relegation battle if Hill was still in charge.

It is the recruitment in the final third that is our problem: we have no reasonable strikers and a serious lack of pace, and that makes us easy to defend against.

 

[WilsdenBantam]

He takes an arm in the face and is blocked. Not saying it’s a red, if intent you could argue it but less clear cut but he knows what he’s doing in blocking the run which is a foul and does he need to have his arm up like that? Not leverage as he’s not jumping so no need for it to be raised. Don’t think Lloyd is trying to get him sent off he’s just been blocked with a raised arm. He took Lloyd out off the ball 2 or 3 times in the last few minutes so wasn’t the first time.

The pundits on quest felt the Canavan one was a straight red.

I think pundits is a strong word, the guy who’s never played football claimed it was but Sam Parkin doesn’t actually speak, probably because he understands football. Defenders put their arms out all the time it’s not their role to make it easy for attacking runners to get a clear path in behind them, they just don’t expect the guy to run straight onto their arm then roll about holding the top of his face when it made contact with his neck/lower chin. They bizarrely didn’t even look at the Smith foul either which sky(who had pundits who have played the game) questioning and debating a possible red. They didn’t mention the Canavan one.

Threlkeld should have seen red, but when your subs came on it felt a few times they were trying it on to get justice for earlier tbh. Just my take on it. I’d like to see the build up to Threlkelds challenge again see if it hit the Port Vale player’s arm when he was on the floor as he was certainly obstructing Sutton getting the ball, them type of incidents are given as free kicks against us weekly.

 

[Boz]

I'm surprised with Tranmere. Looked decent at vale and were just lacking that clinical player. Expected them to be pushing top 3 really.

Mellon can't be on that solid ground really. I would have thought with your squad and fan base that it's play offs minimum target.

We're still lacking that clinical player, neither of the forwards used as lone striker are able to deliver on the goal front. There are other attacking options at the club, whether they'd be good enough is hard to call, but given the failures of the lone striker option at present, Micky needs to try something different in the FL games. Agree that play-offs were our start of season minimum expectation and despite the poor recruitment over the summer, which is mainly not Micky's fault, if we fail to make them questions will be asked.

Tranmere are clearly missing Keith "Best win percentage in club history" Hill, would be in the play-offs with him

Hill set out to create arguments with the fan base from the moment things started going wrong. Didn't understand that mentality. His recruitment in January was poor, get rid of striker back up, bringing in a mixture of the untried Jolley now on loan at Chester and the past it; Nugent along with midfielders in an area where we already looked fairly strong. That said, if Vaughan hadn't got his career-ending injury, we'd have probably gone up and KH still in charge. At least he tried changing formations to post-Vaughan to try and find a viable alternative...he failed.

He was the beginning of our problems actually. After the injury to James Vaughan last season, we were absolutely woeful for three months, and barely scored a goal in fifteen games.

We still have not recruited a competent striker to replace Vaughan and have massive problems in the final third, but Mellon has at least kept us respectably in mid table. We would be in a relegation battle if Hill was still in charge.

It is the recruitment in the final third that is our problem: we have no reasonable strikers and a serious lack of pace, and that makes us easy to defend against.

There are attacking options within the current squad, if we play 2 up front and I think Nevitt would actually be more productive with a striking partner. We have a decent enough squad, but Micky is obstinately choosing not to make the most of it, Merrie a talented midfielder not getting a look-in, Walker who may have failed the attitude test but a forward with pace not even on the bench. Meanwhile regardless of how badly they play Feeney and Mcmanaman getting regular starts recently, while Clarke and Spearing are deemed irreplaceable by the manager.

 

[Conker]

Yeah, i’m not expecting miracles but the luck we had with injuries and suspensions was frankly ridiculous and i don’t believe any side will have such a scenario like that this season.

Scunny at home next week is a brilliant chance to move further up the league, though knowing us its the type of game we’ll go on and lose!

We’ve actually got a long injury list again after that game, hopefully most will be okay for next Saturday.

 

[shoddycollins]

The Barra fans on their forum seem a bit salty about yesterday. I thought the occasion itself was decent, the police weren't too heavy-handed it didn't seem (I was expecting them to totally segregate the two sets of fans outside the stadium as they have done in the past to smaller travelling contingents with less of a rivalry) and that the game, while lacking quality wasn't dire either.

A few of them seem to think that they were given the part of the ground that extends beyond the goal-line as part of some kind of attempt to wind them up. They do seem to be giving it the big'un a bit too much with their faux-outrage at only managing a draw against 'a park team'... ho hum; enjoy it lads, this is as good as it gets for clubs of our level.

Six arrests, all in the city none in the ground itself shows pretty decent behaviour by the vast majority, some will always get tanked up and do something daft. The Barras were kept behind for a bit though while police tried to disperse a crowd of wannabe hoolies waiting for them on Warwick Road... may have been annoying for them but it was with good reason and I'm sure there will have been a similar contingent in the Barrow crowd who would have relished getting into a confrontation outside too but most I'm sure just wanted to go home.

 

[Soz]

I think pundits is a strong word, the guy who’s never played football claimed it was but Sam Parkin doesn’t actually speak, probably because he understands football. Defenders put their arms out all the time it’s not their role to make it easy for attacking runners to get a clear path in behind them, they just don’t expect the guy to run straight onto their arm then roll about holding the top of his face when it made contact with his neck/lower chin. They bizarrely didn’t even look at the Smith foul either which sky(who had pundits who have played the game) questioning and debating a possible red. They didn’t mention the Canavan one.

Threlkeld should have seen red, but when your subs came on it felt a few times they were trying it on to get justice for earlier tbh. Just my take on it. I’d like to see the build up to Threlkelds challenge again see if it hit the Port Vale player’s arm when he was on the floor as he was certainly obstructing Sutton getting the ball, them type of incidents are given as free kicks against us weekly.

no, i think smith just had is arms held out and angol ran into them and dived to get him sent off

Canavan throws an elbow, quite clear in the video above. that's two reds missed by the ref for Bradford, Foulds should have been booked first half and smiths is debatable either way. In fact fouls got away scott free when worrall would have been running into the box, though admittedly there was covering defenders, the ref didn't even see fit to book him for that.

 

[Cas]

ROD gets the ball., Brilliant challenge tbf.

 

[shoddycollins]

Is it a uniquely Port Vale thing that every match is followed up by a flurry of highlights showing why their player shouldn't have been sent off, an opponents player should have been sent off, they should have had a penalty, a goal against them was offside and a foul, the referee was seen winking at the opposition manager, the commentators for the opposition side were biased and so on and so forth? It just seems that every match thread for the week after the game is just Vale fans debating, with evidence, the level of the injustice that was served to them.

 

[Soz]

Is it a uniquely Port Vale thing that every match is followed up by a flurry of highlights showing why their player shouldn't have been sent off, an opponents player should have been sent off, they should have had a penalty, a goal against them was offside and a foul, the referee was seen winking at the opposition manager, the commentators for the opposition side thought they could have won it and so on and so forth? It just seems that every match thread for the week after the game is just Vale fans debating, with evidence, the level of the injustive that was served to them.

im glad you have noticed, we'd be promoted already without this injustice