General Election 2015

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Labour are on a double edged sword, Miliband is a weak leader, but if they attempt to go back to the New Labour ideology I definitely wouldn't vote for them, it's effectively voting for Diet Tory.

The Labour party just seems to be deprived of charisma and strong leadership now and that's very concerning to see.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

England clearly doesn't trust Labour following it's time in power, yet. If Labour get their next moves correct (not screw over their best candidates) they can repair that, but they have a lot of work to do!

Cameron already taking about the more moderate side of the Tories and trying to reach out across the spectrum - he'll need a strong backbone to do so and let's hope he has that. There's clearly a danger of the more loony right side of Tories have more say. If Cameron sticks to his word, and assuming the opposition on the more leftist side is strong from the SNP and Labour block - then I think we can avoid the crazy nasty Tory party and keep things steady.

EU referendum will be utterly fascinating. In that one, the Tories will have to work a positive campaign for once, and the EU and all pro EU parties involved will be forced to demonstrate what the EU does for us and why we should stay. That'll be interesting to see. The result either way will put UKIP in an impossible position too.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Depressing and worrying in equal measure. How is it possible that such a vile party with such repugnant standards actually end up with an increase in power given the last five years? The level of selfishness, ignorance and apathy towards those less fortunate in this country is worrying.

Miliband has to go, it was always a mistake electing him as leader but I actually thought he'd done reasonably well in the last six months. But I'm unsure who could come in and get the party back to what is required. There is no quick fix for this.

to be fair I do not think they did a bad job the last 5 years and I think a lot of people agreed on that, I was very very close to voting Tory yesterday for another term. they inherited a country in a mess and whether people like the methods they used or not we are as a country in a lot better position than we were and I do not think we'd done as good with a Labour government the last 5 years.

The worry here is 2 things, firstly is the current situation of the country best for another 5 hard years of cuts (I personally think more deep cuts will collapse country) and secondly losing the Lib Dem aspect will this government be a lot more extremist than I was the last 5 years.

The only hope for me is Cameron who does seem a lot more moderate and must know if they do push too much they will be destroyed in 4-5 years time like they were in the 90's.

but I think that Campaign of fear over the SNP worked a treat for them.

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

A referendum would be fascinating but I for one hope we don't have one. I'm not sure I trust the politicians to be transparent with the facts so the public would never have an informed choice. You'd have the staunch pro-Europeans painting a utopian picture of the EU whilst the scare-mongering anti-EU brigade will over-egg the pudding in terms of the impact of immigration.

How can any, normal person make an informed choice of what is best for them or the country?

 

[Stevencc]

This is how my area voted...

...with a 67% turnout.

Happy with that if not how things have gone nationally.

 

[Gladders]

Can't believe how well its gone, all those polls for months and months saying how close it was and everyone saying last night the exit polls couldn't possibly be right. Just goes to show how much people don't trust Labour or Milliband, and the lib dems getting into bed with the tories was a big mistake.

 

[Stevencc]

"Scottish nationalism overwhelmed us" - Miliband.

 

[Stee]

How can any, normal person make an informed choice of what is best for them or the country?

Very difficult I think and this doesn't just apply to the EU vote but politics in general in the U.K I think!

 

[Stevencc]

Didn't sleep properly. Fukitol.

Nytol is better for sleeping.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

Even if he doesn't get in I hope Farage stays. I hatetheir policies but there is something about Farage I quite like, he has that wee spark and isn't afraid to p*ss press and voters off to say what he thinks which is nice sometimes when most of time politicians try and say nothing about anything.

 

[blade1889]

Farage ousted

 

[GodsGift]

Miliband, Clegg and Farage all to go?

Cameron will be fucking laughing.

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

Farage wasn't even particularly close, surprisingly. 2,800 off.

Al Murray got 318 votes. Thought he would have done better to be honest.

 

[Stevencc]

Miliband, Clegg and Farage all to go?

Cameron will be fucking laughing.

 

[Zeus]

Disgusted & disappointed in my country. Proud of the people of Chesterfield.

 

[silkyman]

but I think that Campaign of fear over the SNP worked a treat for them.

I hope Cameron likes the taste of Murdoch's colon, because he's going to be sucking it for the next five years.

You can't run a campaign of fear without the media heavyweights right behind you. This election was won (in part, but a significant part) because Rupert Murdoch was worried about his own wealth. The non-dom policy probably killed labour, because it turned half of fleet street's owners against him. And when you've only got The Mirror fighting your corner, things get tough.

 

[silkyman]

Farage wasn't even particularly close, surprisingly. 2,800 off.

Al Murray got 318 votes. Thought he would have done better to be honest.

I thought the same, but then I think it's actually interesting because it shows that the people of Thanet South took this very seriously, whichever way they leaned.

 

[GodsGift]

Al Murray's reaction to the count was priceless.

Everyone thought the exit poll was bollocks but it turns out it actually underestimated Tory gains, not the opposite.

 

[Alty]

Labour are an utter mess. They did absolutely nothing to entice people like me to vote for them.

What were you looking for? Genuine question. I'd have the Labour Party moving a long way to the left, but Miliband at least went some of the way to doing that. And at a time when the public finances aren't strong.

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

So Nige has stood down. Fair play to him, I thought he'd fight.

 

[Shrimpurh]

Can't see there being a EU referendum at all. We are simply too financially involved to leave the EU

 

[GodsGift]

That's not a resignation, he'll be back in September.

 

[Stevencc]

Right that's it, I'm bloody off...elect me back in after I've had a nice, long holiday.

 

[Alty]

I'm very disappointed by the result, but I find some of the doom mongering in this thread a bit unrealistic. In all likelihood this will be just a slightly more right-wing Government than we've experienced since 1997. It's a bit shit, but we've all got used to neoliberal economics and hysterical reactions to the media haven't we?

The one positive we can draw from this is the fact there'll be a referendum on EU membership. I sincerely hope there will be a group from the left arguing for withdrawal in order to detoxify the independence campaign brand. Maybe I'm naive but I genuinely think that if we can get people who keep screaming xenophobia to shut up and actually explain the fundamental flaws in the European model that we can people to vote to take our independence back.

Of course big business will all campaign for the EU and will try to scare people into thinking we'll go bankrupt if we leave.

 

[Alty]

Clegg has confirmed he's going. Simply has to be Farron now, you'd have thought.

 

[Dave-Vale]

Wiped out.

 

[smat]

Clegg's gone too. I don't know if I can face a world without- actually I'm ok

 

[Cheese & Biscuits]

I have a lot of sympathy for Ed, I have a little for Nige, I have absolutely none for Clegg. I hope he thinks his 5 years in the limelight was worth crushing the party.

I'm sure they'll come back a bit over the years but it'll take a lot of time to build up their support to their 2010 levels.

I suppose he'll finally be glad to remove the leash from his neck now though.

 

[Ellis]

For all the necessity and little choice the Liberal Democrats had in 2010 with having to go into coalition with the Conservatives the one thing they could have retained is their integrity. Clegg likes to think all he did was compromise on a few policies but he damaged the very fabric of his party and went away from their core values since the foundation of the party. It's no surprise LD support left in droves resulting in /some/ good MPs losing their seat as a result.

I hope in the deepest of his heart he recognises the electorate deserted his power because of that rather than some superficial view that it was because the Conservatives 'stole' the good ideas the Liberal Democrats did, or that the Liberal Democrats have not been credited enough for limiting the Conservatives.

 

[BigDaveCUFC]

I think in 5 years time we may give the Lib Dems abit more credit, This tory majority will show you how it would have been ruled without them, which some won't mind, but others will hate.

I just wonder now afew hours have happened since we knew the main results will a lot of people both North and South of the border realize what has happened and be thinking they wished they voted different.