General Election 2015

[TheArtfulDodger]

City of Bolton? Typical Tory, doesn't even know geography outside of the home counties.

 

[silkyman]

Whereas the rhetoric form the right has been 'SHIT.... SCOTTISH PEOPLE.... RUN'

Screamed by Murdoch until the gullible believed it. A vote for Labour was a vote for Bannockburn as the skirt wearing hoards will sweep south to raze York to the ground. All so Uncle Rupert wouldn't lose his non-dom status.

 

[Mr Elmo]

How old are you and would you have voted given the chance?

15, and potentially. Wouldn't have made a full decision on my current knowledge, would probably have to do some more research if I were able to vote, but I do get a general idea of what the main parties want to do.

 

[blade1889]

15, and potentially. Wouldn't have made a full decision on my current knowledge, would probably have to do some more research if I were able to vote, but I do get a general idea of what the main parties want to do.

So more than most voters then

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Whereas the rhetoric form the right has been 'SHIT.... SCOTTISH PEOPLE.... RUN'

Screamed by Murdoch until the gullible believed it. A vote for Labour was a vote for Bannockburn as the skirt wearing hoards will sweep south to raze York to the ground. All so Uncle Rupert wouldn't lose his non-dom status.

Are you suggesting that a Labour/SNP coalition wouldn't hand loads of power to the SNP, whom most of England dislikes?

 

[Modernist]

Cant watch that prick of a PM talking about bringing unity to the country, fooking twat, maybe if you constantly didn't inflict more misery on the most vunerable you might have some of that unity.

 

[Ebeneezer Goode]

Cameron should publicly offer Scotland full fiscal autonomy. Then when the Scots see they're running a deficit twice as high as the rest of the UK maybe they'll see SNP economic fantasies for what they are.

 

[Bobbin']

This notion from some Labour supporters that they are some sort of martyr to the cause of those less privileged than them is hilarious.

Branding Tory voters as idiots or selfish etc is wrong and stinks of hypocrisy. I've seen students whinging about tuition fees, did they consider me or my family potentially paying more tax to fund their degree? Or did Labour voters consider those that wished to have a say in whether we remain Europe? There are plenty of examples. Anyone who says their vote is not even the slightest bit influenced by selfishness is a liar.

Going out and voting for what you believe is best for the country is not selfish and perhaps these labour supporters should point the finger at the 33.9% that couldn't be bothered to go out and vote, not those who exercised their right to vote for who they want.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-disabled-access-to-work-scheme-10237191.html

So it begins.

 

[Techno Natch]

This notion from some Labour supporters that they are some sort of martyr to the cause of those less privileged than them is hilarious.

Branding Tory voters as idiots or selfish etc is wrong and stinks of hypocrisy. I've seen students whinging about tuition fees, did they consider me or my family potentially paying more tax to fund their degree? Or did Labour voters consider those that wished to have a say in whether we remain Europe? There are plenty of examples. Anyone who says their vote is not even the slightest bit influenced by selfishness is a liar.

Going out and voting for what you believe is best for the country is not selfish and perhaps these labour supporters should point the finger at the 33.9% that couldn't be bothered to go out and vote, not those who exercised their right to vote for who they want.

Yeah such dickheads caring about others. Makes me feel physically sick. How some people are capable of looking at the effect a government has on others is beyond me.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

If Miliband throws Farage's shoe over a pub then that's the real election.

 

[Pliny Harris]

Can't really blame the hard right for calling the deflated half of the electorate bitter or whatever, but there's reason why the Conservatives are so reviled. Tory governments kill. They push people into food poverty while the upper strata win big. As a generic citizen I know people on both extremes and I know where the redistribution's needed and I know that's a priority for a healthy, united society. Intending to cut deficit/debt is fine, intending to instill a work ethic is fine, intending to give good businesses some clout is fine, but if they're only done to a tentative degree while making more people ever more vulnerable then no it's far from chill. Undermining and subsequently selling off fine public assets is not OK. TTIP, scrapping the Human Rights Act, opposing PR, viscerally wrong. I'm fairly pluralist, but know that the "head" is useless without the heart. There's a default ad hominem for everybody who tries to explain these things so I'm not expecting a discussion, but some could do with thinking outside of themselves and beyond their fears.

 

[Bobbin']

Yeah such dickheads caring about others. Makes me feel physically sick. How some people are capable of looking at the effect a government has on others is beyond me.

That isn't what I said, is it?

 

[Freakyteeth]

5 years of Theresa May without the Lib Dems to reign the technologically illiterate, incompetent mad c*** in

Christ.

 

[Stee]

So it begins.

The blatent anti tory tripe based on over-reaction and deliberate attempts at misleading the gullible for the sake of sensational headlines you mean? I quite agree.

As highlighted by a poster in the comments of that 'article' - "the document (which I guess no one will read) discusses options and assesses the impact. It's not a plan. But it's already gone right round twitter as an example of evil Tories attacking the disabled with a plan to withdraw funding. In fact it's discussing ways to spread the existing funding so it helps more people. And it DRAWS NO CONCLUSIONS."

Guess we need to get used to it from the Independent and of course the Mirror ^^

 

[Pliny Harris]

The blatent anti tory tripe based on over-reaction and deliberate attempts at misleading the gullible for the sake of sensational headlines you mean? I quite agree.

As highlighted by a poster in the comments of that 'article' - "the document (which I guess no one will read) discusses options and assesses the impact. It's not a plan. But it's already gone right round twitter as an example of evil Tories attacking the disabled with a plan to withdraw funding. In fact it's discussing ways to spread the existing funding so it helps more people. And it DRAWS NO CONCLUSIONS."

Guess we need to get used to it from the Independent and of course the Mirror ^^

What are your opinions on the combined clout of the Sun, the Telegraph, the Times, the Mail and the Express? Or are you only against media bias when you disagree with it?

 

[Stee]

I prefer to take them all with a pinch of salt personally! Better to actually find the sources rather than take the papers as gospel.

 

[TheArtfulDodger]

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[Freakyteeth]

 

[.V.]

This notion from some Labour supporters that they are some sort of martyr to the cause of those less privileged than them is hilarious.

Branding Tory voters as idiots or selfish etc is wrong and stinks of hypocrisy. I've seen students whinging about tuition fees, did they consider me or my family potentially paying more tax to fund their degree? Or did Labour voters consider those that wished to have a say in whether we remain Europe? There are plenty of examples. Anyone who says their vote is not even the slightest bit influenced by selfishness is a liar.

Going out and voting for what you believe is best for the country is not selfish and perhaps these labour supporters should point the finger at the 33.9% that couldn't be bothered to go out and vote, not those who exercised their right to vote for who they want.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-disabled-access-to-work-scheme-10237191.html

So it begins.

 

[.V.]

The blatent anti tory tripe based on over-reaction and deliberate attempts at misleading the gullible for the sake of sensational headlines you mean? I quite agree.

As highlighted by a poster in the comments of that 'article' - "the document (which I guess no one will read) discusses options and assesses the impact. It's not a plan. But it's already gone right round twitter as an example of evil Tories attacking the disabled with a plan to withdraw funding. In fact it's discussing ways to spread the existing funding so it helps more people. And it DRAWS NO CONCLUSIONS."

Guess we need to get used to it from the Independent and of course the Mirror ^^

The Tories themselves have said they want to cut £12bn from the welfare budget, which is 10% of non pension age benefits. How is that a deliberate attempt at misleading anyone?

 

[Pliny Harris]

In other news I think I'm in love with 20-year-old SNP MP Mhairi Black:

 

[Pyeman]

On a personal level, I'm disappointed. I voted Labour because I felt that their policies were a better reflection of my values and I'm concerned as to what our society will look like after five more years of Tory rule.

I know we need to 'balance the books', but I'm just not sure the deep, rapid cuts proposed by the Conservatives are entirely necessary. When they first came into power in 2010 and implemented their austerity programme, it stunted our economy entirely. It was only after they began to invest more in the economy towards the end of 2012 that growth started to rise. With that in mind, I'm just not sure that a return to intensive austerity is good for the economy.

Yet despite all this, the most disappointing thing about this election is the nature in which it was conducted. I find it frustrating that party policy, the thing that should be central to the election process, was often left on the periphery. Too many campaigns were built on negativity towards other parties as opposed to conviction in one's own beliefs. I feel the Conservatives were particularly guilty of this [but certainly not exclusively] - the fact they were able to build an entire campaign around the economy without once detailing where £12 billion pounds of welfare cuts would come from is astonishing.

Having said all that, I have to respect the outcome of the election. With the scale of the victory, it's impossible to deny that the Conservatives deserve to form the next government. I just hope that Labour can regroup and put up a better fight in 2020.

 

[mnb089mnb]

Mhairi <3

 

[silkyman]

Are you suggesting that a Labour/SNP coalition wouldn't hand loads of power to the SNP, whom most of England dislikes?

They'd have had as many seats as the Lib Dems last time and they were the teaboys who couldn't even push through their key election promise on Tuition fees. And I'm pretty sure quite a lot of the country dislike the Tories. Doesn't stop them being in power!

 

[silkyman]

On a personal level, I'm disappointed. I voted Labour because I felt that their policies were a better reflection of my values and I'm concerned as to what our society will look like after five more years of Tory rule.

I know we need to 'balance the books', but I'm just not sure the deep, rapid cuts proposed by the Conservatives are entirely necessary. When they first came into power in 2010 and implemented their austerity programme, it stunted our economy entirely. It was only after they began to invest more in the economy towards the end of 2012 that growth started to rise. With that in mind, I'm just not sure that a return to intensive austerity is good for the economy.

Yet despite all this, the most disappointing thing about this election is the nature in which it was conducted. I find it frustrating that party policy, the thing that should be central to the election process, was often left on the periphery. Too many campaigns were built on negativity towards other parties as opposed to conviction in one's own beliefs. I feel the Conservatives were particularly guilty of this [but certainly not exclusively] - the fact they were able to build an entire campaign around the economy without once detailing where £12 billion pounds of welfare cuts would come from is astonishing.

Having said all that, I have to respect the outcome of the election. With the scale of the victory, it's impossible to deny that the Conservatives deserve to form the next government. I just hope that Labour can regroup and put up a better fight in 2020.

It was the first ever election to be won by a bacon sandwich and scaremongering about Scotland. All to protect the non Dom status of newspaper barons.

 

[SALTIRE]

Cameron should publicly offer Scotland full fiscal autonomy. Then when the Scots see they're running a deficit twice as high as the rest of the UK maybe they'll see SNP economic fantasies for what they are.

Would take any supposed woes caused by such a thing if it meant getting away from those fuckers.

 

[Alty]

Con 279
Lab 266
SNP 49
LDs 24
DUP 9
PC 6
SF 5
UKIP 4
SDLP 2
Others 6

How fucking shit was that?

 

[Murphy]

The more and more the newspapers and such attempted to slander Miliband the more and more I grew to like him. A year ago I was fairly certain I wouldn't vote Labour mainly down to the fact he was the leader, which is pretty narrow minded you could say. But in the past 2 months something seems to have changed and bar that leaders debate where you thought he might jump out of the tele he was looking down the camera so much, I've really grown to like him and respect him. He seems to me like a genuine bloke and I was a bit disappointed to see him step down this afternoon, although sadly I understand why he has and why some people will just not vote for him. All of this has sort of made me more aware, and for someone who was fairly opposed to Labour not that long ago, it is perhaps testament to Miliband that he turned me with him as a person as well as their policies compared against the Tories.

 

[Laker]

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This is pretty much the best piece I've read today to be honest.