Is it time for a 'Managerial Merry go round' thread?

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

Dunno if I'd say Bonner was that direct, Harris followed him and didn't deviate too much. Guess we never had the time to arrive at Harrisball.

And yeah, not a bad angle. Guess it's a bit of an unforseen now mixed with the big picture. Let's hope we've not fucked it up.

 

[valefan16]

Director of Football David Flitcroft has left Vale… had to happen really the fans had turned and he’d had two disastrous January windows.

That said despite current anger he deserves credit for overhauling the football side such as Youth system and bringing DC to the club which got us up, he did make some great signings in his first year or so, Connor Hall, Garrity great finds and made us good money even on some which didn’t work out.

See if we replace or go back to the old fashioned way under Moore.

Shame it’s too late but can start the rebuild and maybe saves some of the fans who were about to be lost when ST sales come out.

 

[kieran_vale]

He had to go, he recruited this squad and while I don’t think the blame for this season should be one person ultimately he has to take a good share of it. The players and owner don’t get to have him as their human shield any more either.

Ultimately it’s all about next season for us now and I just don’t see the justification for putting him in charge of the upcoming campaign in L2 after the last two years.

 

[AdamStag]

Don’t go letting him anywhere near us

 

[thewwfc]

Matt Taylor appears to be delighting the Gas fans right now...

Back or Sack? | Bristol Rovers GasChat Forum

Pretty self explanatory.

gaschat.co.uk

 

[Super_horns]

Leam Richardson by Rotherham after their relegation.

Relegated Rotherham sack head coach Richardson

Rotherham United sack head coach Leam Richardson, two weeks after their relegation to League One was confirmed.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[MatthewArgyle]

Will they turn to someone like Neil Warnock to take over for the last 3 games?

 

[Richard Cranium]

The most loyal man in football jumped ship to Rotherham then

Fat fuck

 

[denzel ecfc]

I thought he 'loved Stevenage'...

 

[Super_horns]

Will they turn to someone like Neil Warnock to take over for the last 3 games?

No .

Swiftly replaced by a returning Steve Evans .

https://www.themillers.co.uk/news/2024/april/read--evans-returns-as-first-team-manager/

 

[YEO YEO YEO]

The ever loyal Steve Evans!

 

[BRFC_Gas]

I thought he 'loved Stevenage'...

Good move by Rovrum preparing for next season. Whatever is said about the chubby fucker he does get results

 

[Si Robin]

They do say never go back though.

I'm more concerned about how this effects our game next week to be honest.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

I'm more concerned about how this effects our game next week to be honest.

It just means their bench will be a lot lighter

 

[Millerbri]

The ever loyal Steve Evans!

He was loyal to us though until we sacked him.
It wasn't for results either we had just beaten Birmingham away for the first time in about 50 years.
It was a falling out with the chairman's son while the chairman was on holiday.
He must have forgiven him!

 

[Luke Imp]

He'd not have replicated this season at Stevenage so he's gone out on a high and at the best they're likely to be, so in that respect it's not a surprise.

Can't be a coincidence that as soon as Stevenage's PO hopes are over and he's gone, it's obviously been the pipeline for a while. He loves it at Rotherham, though - what's this, his third spell?

Rotherham are in that weird place of being competitive in L1 but probably never going to have more than two consecutive seasons in the Championship so they're always looking for a good L1 manager more so than a good Championship one if that makes sense (and they'd probably not be able to afford the latter, and the chances of one wanting to join Rotherham is probably pretty low as well).

 

[Millerbri]

He'd not have replicated this season at Stevenage so he's gone out on a high and at the best they're likely to be, so in that respect it's not a surprise.

Can't be a coincidence that as soon as Stevenage's PO hopes are over and he's gone, it's obviously been the pipeline for a while. He loves it at Rotherham, though - what's this, his third spell?

Rotherham are in that weird place of being competitive in L1 but probably never going to have more than two consecutive seasons in the Championship so they're always looking for a good L1 manager more so than a good Championship one if that makes sense (and they'd probably not be able to afford the latter, and the chances of one wanting to join Rotherham is probably pretty low as well).

He's only been here once but he lasted about three and half years including back to back promotions and kept us in the Championship for a season so he was brilliant for us.

Of course there's negatives to having him but he plays exciting football and gets a good rapport with the crowd, something Taylor and Richardson failed to do dismally.

You're right we can't attract a decent manager when we are in the Championship, when we sacked Taylor we were turned down by both Nathan Jones and Gary Rowett before accepting Richardson.

Nobody wants to manage a club that will have probably the lowest budget in the division.

It's nice to go up to the Championship but it's boring losing nearly every week.
Plus the decisions that go against you in nearly every game have to be seen to be believed.
The away day prices can be totally overpriced and you go with almost certainty that you are going to get beat. (we have only won away once in two seasons)

I would have given Richardson a chance to dump all the useless dross Taylor signed and have a go next season but I don't feel gutted that he's gone TBH.
He talks like a coaching manual on his matchday press conferences, he sounds so bloody boring.

However SE needs to get off to a good start to last out his new 3 year contract, he is a bit like Marmite, some supporters can't stand him, I like him.

 

[leedsvaliant]

The thing with Evans is that he's from the old school of management and there's not many left. There's so many managers that dress like a cross between a car salesman and a PE teacher taking assembly. They've been on all the UEFA coaching courses and media training courses and it shows. Our best two managers of the last 20 years have been Clarke and Micky Adams. They're both emotional and speak from the heart, their tactics are more up and at em rather than trying to copy Pep.

I don't like Evans as a person, he's always got an excuse but I'd love to have someone of that ilk managing our club. It just suits us.

 

[Si Robin]

Apart from the bungs when he was at Boston, I've never had too much of an issue with Evans.

Raynor is a c*** though.

 

[thewwfc]

Ainsworth is an early favourite at 2/1 although as usual the odds mean little.

I hope it doesn’t happen but I could understand it:

• the type of players would already be the right ones
• SFC already well familiar with the dark arts
• Ainsworth is based relatively local to Stevenage
• Record of punching above his weight relative to team budget
• Unlike QPR fans when Ainsworth got that job, SFC fans are in no position to get high and mighty about expecting pretty football

 

[Millerbri]

Ainsworth is an early favourite at 2/1 although as usual the odds mean little.

I hope it doesn’t happen but I could understand it:

• the type of players would already be the right ones
• SFC already well familiar with the dark arts
• Ainsworth is based relatively local to Stevenage
• Record of punching above his weight relative to team budget
• Unlike QPR fans when Ainsworth got that job, SFC fans are in no position to get high and mighty about expecting pretty football

Ainsworth is another who supposedly turned us down when we sacked Taylor but i reckon that's down to geography as much as anything.

 

[thewwfc]

Ainsworth is another who supposedly turned us down when we sacked Taylor but i reckon that's down to geography as much as anything.

Yeah, I would agree with that.

Rotherham strikes me as (at least by the low standards of football club stability) a fairly sensible club where whilst the expectations would still be high (as in being either a bottom-end Champ or top-end L1 club) there is at least some sense of realism - so if it weren't for the location issue it may well have appealed.

He turned down Sunderland too when his star was at his peak with us, one can only speculate why but I think the location issue plus the revolving-door syndrome would not have been to his taste.

He took the QPR job (obviously knowing that they were a shitshow) just because of his emotional ties to the club, but he was kind of on a hiding to nothing there from the word go - I remember seeing the QPR fans' reaction at the time and they were mostly like, "if I was a manager I wouldn't touch this job with a bargepole".

 

[Brox]

Disappointed to see Evans leave but can only wish him well at Rotherham.

His time with us can only be considered an amazing success. It's often the case when you're successful you end up losing players, managers etc, no reason to think this spell would be any different.

He transformed the fortunes of our club, we were undoubtedly one of the worst, if not the absolute worst side in the football league over a 3 year spell and looked destined for a return to non-league when he joined a little over two years ago.

Staved off relegation, got us promoted at the first attempt and then had us in the play-off picture in League One for pretty much the entire season. Success in the cup, including an unbelievable win at Villa Park, some great memories.

When you consider his age, reputation and family situation there were only a handful of clubs that he'd realistically have left us for - Rotherham were always one, and unfortunately for us they came in for him.

 

[denzel ecfc]

He's only been here once but he lasted about three and half years including back to back promotions and kept us in the Championship for a season so he was brilliant for us.

Of course there's negatives to having him but he plays exciting football and gets a good rapport with the crowd, something Taylor and Richardson failed to do dismally.

You're right we can't attract a decent manager when we are in the Championship, when we sacked Taylor we were turned down by both Nathan Jones and Gary Rowett before accepting Richardson.

Nobody wants to manage a club that will have probably the lowest budget in the division.

It's nice to go up to the Championship but it's boring losing nearly every week.
Plus the decisions that go against you in nearly every game have to be seen to be believed.
The away day prices can be totally overpriced and you go with almost certainty that you are going to get beat. (we have only won away once in two seasons)

I would have given Richardson a chance to dump all the useless dross Taylor signed and have a go next season but I don't feel gutted that he's gone TBH.
He talks like a coaching manual on his matchday press conferences, he sounds so bloody boring.

However SE needs to get off to a good start to last out his new 3 year contract, he is a bit like Marmite, some supporters can't stand him, I like him.

Funny but Taylor had a good rapport with the Exeter fans...

 

[Si Robin]

Plus the decisions that go against you in nearly every game have to be seen to be believed.

You should see some of the ones that have gone against us this season...

 

[Millerbri]

Funny but Taylor had a good rapport with the Exeter fans...

Maybe because of his time as a player he was already well thought of, plus he backed it up with a promotion, he only really had good times much the same as we felt about Paul Warne.

Warne suffered a relegation in that first season but nobody blamed him and he took us straight back up so he got that rapport automatically.

Although Taylor kept us up last season a lot of fans gave much of the credit to Warne for the way we started the season.
If we hadn't got off to a flyer with Warne we would certainly have been relegated last year.

Taylor had no affinity to Rotherham so he couldn't pump himself up into any kind of emotional attachment and react to the fans.
I can't blame him for that, but I do blame him for the way he allowed all what Warney had built over 6 years to be slowly dismantled by bringing players in who seemed to be at the club for one last pay day.

Still I wish him well, he may well go on to have a good career, one bad spell shouldn't define the rest of your life.

When he comes back to the NYS next year I suspect he will get a mixed reception but he'll get a polite clap from me.

 

[denzel ecfc]

Maybe because of his time as a player he was already well thought of, plus he backed it up with a promotion, he only really had good times much the same as we felt about Paul Warne.

Warne suffered a relegation in that first season but nobody blamed him and he took us straight back up so he got that rapport automatically.

Although Taylor kept us up last season a lot of fans gave much of the credit to Warne for the way we started the season.
If we hadn't got off to a flyer with Warne we would certainly have been relegated last year.

Taylor had no affinity to Rotherham so he couldn't pump himself up into any kind of emotional attachment and react to the fans.
I can't blame him for that, but I do blame him for the way he allowed all what Warney had built over 6 years to be slowly dismantled by bringing players in who seemed to be at the club for one last pay day.

Still I wish him well, he may well go on to have a good career, one bad spell shouldn't define the rest of your life.

When he comes back to the NYS next year I suspect he will get a mixed reception but he'll get a polite clap from me.

Easy to say it was because he got us promoted, but he also led us to two 9th placed finishes and a playoff defeat to Northampton at a time when we were desperate to get out of League Two. Fans and board stuck with him, not because he was an ex player but because we could see what he was building, he had to rebuild a side a number of times. He also got the best out of players like Jevani Brown, Matt Jay and yes Sam Nombe who haven't been cutting it anywhere else.
Think you gave up on him too early but then again most clubs would have done the same.

 

[Millerbri]

Easy to say it was because he got us promoted, but he also led us to two 9th placed finishes and a playoff defeat to Northampton at a time when we were desperate to get out of League Two. Fans and board stuck with him, not because he was an ex player but because we could see what he was building, he had to rebuild a side a number of times. He also got the best out of players like Jevani Brown, Matt Jay and yes Sam Nombe who haven't been cutting it anywhere else.
Think you gave up on him too early but then again most clubs would have done the same.

Maybe but we'll never know.
At the time he was sacked I was all for giving him more time but things starting to leak out of the club now suggests he was losing the plot.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Easy to say it was because he got us promoted, but he also led us to two 9th placed finishes and a playoff defeat to Northampton at a time when we were desperate to get out of League Two. Fans and board stuck with him, not because he was an ex player but because we could see what he was building, he had to rebuild a side a number of times. He also got the best out of players like Jevani Brown, Matt Jay and yes Sam Nombe who haven't been cutting it anywhere else.
Think you gave up on him too early but then again most clubs would have done the same.

We were hoping he would at least do that for us but sadly not.
It's weird how players are rubbish here and instantly do well elsewhere like James Gibbons, Bobby Thomas and Ryan Woods. Hardly ever happens the other way around

 

[denzel ecfc]

We were hoping he would at least do that for us but sadly not.
It's weird how players are rubbish here and instantly do well elsewhere like James Gibbons, Bobby Thomas and Ryan Woods. Hardly ever happens the other way around

You've only given him 6 months. I guess you have a big window coming up so he will be very busy. And at least you are 80 miles closer to 'the action' as his regular gripe was how hard it was to attract players to Devon.