Is it time for a 'Managerial Merry go round' thread?

[Throbber_for_Dunk]

From afar i don’t really see what Neil Harris has done wrong to leave?

If i were cambridge and both parties swallowed their pride it would work well, for me he’s a good record.

It's not that he left for Millwall, it was the way he did it. Taking charge of the team after accepting the job a few days earlier, and then having a completely shameful go at a local journalist (fan and volunteer at the club as well etc) after the match for no reason, then immediately buggering off. After weeks before giving a big spiel about his connection to Cambridge and all that, then not even giving a mention to us until weeks later.

All it would have taken was a "I can't say no, and I'm sorry for leaving you in the shit before the derby, thank you for the opportunity".

Anyway, without the emotion of it all, I'd back Harris more than Monk at this point, but I doubt either party would have the appetite after earlier this year.

 

[Millerbri]

Your playing style is far too direct. And I'm not one for saying everything should be passed around the back etc, I like to see it mixed up but your style is genuinely just big high balls and crosses. There's not many players that enjoy or excel playing that way now in league football, it didn't seem to suit your players, it doesn't suit many players now.

We have played some decent stuff at times but as results have dipped and confidence has dropped it feels like the players are hiding a bit.

We've not had a settled defence all season and you need a good base to allow the midfield and full backs to get further up the pitch.

Most of our supporters can't stand this playing it about around the back stuff (Taylor & Richardson), but equally would be much happier if they could see some sort of a plan.

 

[EnglishRed]

They could bring in Rooney. Fantastic record.

 

[AdamStag]

Wouldn’t want him anywhere near Mansfield, though hopefully we’d be deemed “below his station” or whatever.

Absolute fraud.

 

[denzel ecfc]

I'm disappointed he's been sacked. They might improve now

 

[Master D]

Bloomfield off to Luton?

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

I'm disappointed he's been sacked. They might improve now

I know - got PAFC to go down in my pre-season bet!

 

[denzel ecfc]

I know - got PAFC to go down in my pre-season bet!

Hopefully their short lived glee at having beaten Brentford's kids before being dismantled by Liverpool will distract them from staying up.

 

[BRFC_Gas]

Hopefully their short lived glee at having beaten Brentford's kids before being dismantled by Liverpool will distract them from staying up.

Would be good to have another local game in the league if we manage to stay in it, plus seeing Pieface cry is another bonus

 

[Super_horns]

Bloomfield off to Luton?

Be a blow for Wycombe and risky by him

 

[thewwfc]

It’s being reported as a done deal in most places.

I guess it’s a bigger fan base, better wages, more potential in the club, so you can’t blame him.

Also it seems like he had a limited amount of control here as we have put in place a kind of Brentford/Brighton model where the “head coach” only has so much influence and it’s all very data- and Director of Football-driven.

Anyway, if it happens (and at this stage it seems so) then I can’t see how that isn’t our season torpedoed, even if the new guy is decent - there is always going to be a transition period.

So it’s great news for Wxm/Hudds fans.

 

[SF_]

It’s being reported as a done deal in most places.

I guess it’s a bigger fan base, better wages, more potential in the club, so you can’t blame him.

Also it seems like he had a limited amount of control here as we have put in place a kind of Brentford/Brighton model where the “head coach” only has so much influence and it’s all very data- and Director of Football-driven.

Anyway, if it happens (and at this stage it seems so) then I can’t see how that isn’t our season torpedoed, even if the new guy is decent - there is always going to be a transition period.

So it’s great news for Wxm/Hudds fans.

Our ITK guy says he's taking Joe Low with him. We were very interested in him.

 

[thewwfc]

I don’t discount anything at this stage.

Again, I can’t begrudge Bloomfield the opportunity, but right now I just want to move past this and see where that leaves us.

It’s certainly not a popular move, as you’d expect when someone attached to the club for so long (playing for us for over 10 years and then successfully managing us) is allowed to leave without so much as a whimper, but we are where we are.

 

[SF_]

I don’t discount anything at this stage.

Again, I can’t begrudge Bloomfield the opportunity, but right now I just want to move past this and see where that leaves us.

It’s certainly not a popular move, as you’d expect when someone attached to the club for so long (playing for us for over 10 years and then successfully managing us) is allowed to leave without so much as a whimper, but we are where we are.

Reckon you could tempt Ainsworth back?

 

[Pilot_Phonic]

Reckon you could tempt Ainsworth back?

Only taken over at Shrews unless he wants to sack them off. Personally, I wouldn't go near Slops in the first place.

 

[Conker]

Not really much a club can do if a manager wants to go.

 

[thewwfc]

Reckon you could tempt Ainsworth back?

Good question - but no.

And in all honesty I’m not sure he’d want it.

Basically he could (and did) shape the club in his image the first time round.

The new regime is very different, he’d have to work with a Director of Football, would have far less control over signings, and also he’d have his own history to live up to.

I feel like Shrewsbury is a decent club also, and even if he can’t keep them up this time around, he’d be given free rein to rebuild next season.

Him and his assistant also do a load of research into players’ characters before they sign anyone (after bad experiences with some toxic personalities) - I don’t think our “data-led model” takes that stuff into account.

 

[Super_horns]

Risky move by Bloomfield

I guess if Luton stay up he will have the chance to build and progress

 

[Luke Imp]

We don't know what Bloomfield's thinking is but if he's looking around and seeing two good loan players be recalled and his CB wanted by other sides as well he might be thinking of taking the chance whilst his and Wycombe's stock is so high.

What he's done at Wycombe over the last 2(?) years, will probably see him being able to pick up another L1 job anyway albeit it took a bit of time for him to get Wycombe where he wanted them to be playing style wise.

 

[Luke Imp]

Skubala might be one to look out for over the next two or three weeks. We've sacked one manager in 10 years, so it's not as if we're a sacking Club but the Board will probably have to act if the next three or so games go the wrong way.

I don't think he's completely lost the plot but he's on the way to doing so. 1 win in 12 (failed to score in 8 of the other 11!) in the league, 4 in 17 including cups and whilst he's looking to solve the puzzle that is our poor run of form, the amount of starting XI changes he's making from game to game (some forced) is creating more issues at times and we've stopped doing pretty much everything we were good at last season.

Aside from the changes though, we're seeing the same worrying patterns game to game - mistakes at the back, can't keep clean sheets, struggle to score, don't create many clear cut chances. We seem to have to work really hard to create anything or score yet the opposition don't, and we don't give away too many chance a game either and that makes it even more frustrating.

He's been dealt a bit of a dud hand in attacking areas but we're also not progressing the ball well enough into those areas either.

Northampton (a), Posh (h) and Blackpool (h) are the next three and I reckon he'll need 4 or 5 points from that.

 

[AdamStag]

Skubala might be one to look out for over the next two or three weeks. We've sacked one manager in 10 years, so it's not as if we're a sacking Club but the Board will probably have to act if the next three or so games go the wrong way.

I don't think he's completely lost the plot but he's on the way to doing so. 1 win in 12 (failed to score in 8 of the other 11!) in the league, 4 in 17 including cups and whilst he's looking to solve the puzzle that is our poor run of form, the amount of starting XI changes he's making from game to game (some forced) is creating more issues at times and we've stopped doing pretty much everything we were good at last season.

Aside from the changes though, we're seeing the same worrying patterns game to game - mistakes at the back, can't keep clean sheets, struggle to score, don't create many clear cut chances. We seem to have to work really hard to create anything or score yet the opposition don't, and we don't give away too many chance a game either and that makes it even more frustrating.

He's been dealt a bit of a dud hand in attacking areas but we're also not progressing the ball well enough into those areas either.

Northampton (a), Posh (h) and Blackpool (h) are the next three and I reckon he'll need 4 or 5 points from that.

You’ve been here a few seasons longer than us, and last season you weren’t far from the playoffs but surely it can’t be that bad that there’s talk of him going?

But despite your run you’re 12th, again solid and nowhere near the relegation zone, still getting in good crowds, is there genuinely a desire for him to go?

 

[Luke Imp]

We're 12th but played more games so without looking, I think probably 15th-17th in reality.

I'll be one of the last to call for a managers head but quite a few others are just about there. We've morphed back into a Mark Kennedy type side and it's boring, dull and a difficult watch with hardly any goals scored. The excitement factor this season apart from a handful of games has been pretty low.

Not that I think we have the squad to play really attacking football but recruitment hasn't helped at all. Two of the players we signed on four-year deals in the summer are already out on loan, our replacement 'keeper isn't as good as the one we sold, nowhere near replacing the goals of Taylor, little pace in the side (not ideal when you set up as a counter attacking side...!) and, like last night, we've left ourselves in a situation where we're asking two young lads who have come through our Academy to lead the line in L1 and Cup games. It's ridiculous really. I'd say 7 or 8 of the starting 11 are decent L1 players but the remaining 3 or 4 positions are dragging the side down - not necessarily in ability but the position they're being asked to play and/or the playing style not suiting them.

 

[Stocky]

Lincoln looked a hardworking side when we played them. But they were very direct and seemed to play for set pieces. Nothing wrong with that but it does have a ceiling in a league with so many quality footballing sides with big budgets in it.

 

[Conker]

Only just realised Tyler Walker is still at Lincoln.

Hard for me to criticise Lincoln because they handed us our biggest defeat of the season, on that day we was the pretty footballing side albeit ineffective against a strong Lincoln defence. They did looked limited, and looking at the squad the attacking areas seem very short on quality, Walker got quality but not the sort of work rate to play in that sort of side.

 

[Luke Imp]

Only just realised Tyler Walker is still at Lincoln.

Hard for me to criticise Lincoln because they handed us our biggest defeat of the season, on that day we was the pretty footballing side albeit ineffective against a strong Lincoln defence. They did looked limited, and looking at the squad the attacking areas seem very short on quality, Walker got quality but not the sort of work rate to play in that sort of side.

The worrying thing this week was that Skubala said we had planned for a strike force being built around Walker this season, which given that he's not even going to make it to 10 appearances for us in two years, is very concerning and a bollock dropped of epic proportions - even more so when you consider he was injured in the first week of pre-season and out until November anyway so there was plenty of time to not leave us in this situation.

Big two weeks of the transfer window left and this is the second manager in a row who has said he wants to play a certain way and has then reverted to a more risk averse, dull, low scoring set-up, so you then start to question whether it's the recruitment side (although we've actually sold some fairly high value players, relative for us, in the last few years).

EDIT - In a nutshell, we're not creative enough to be a footballing side like Wycombe and we're not built tall and strong enough to be a Rotherham/Stevenage type either so we're stuck between the two and that often result in being neither here nor there and not great at anything.