Jose Mourinho to replace LVG as Man U manager?

[Christian Slater]

The FA Cup isn't a higher accolade than the League Cup now? Classic Liverpool delusion. You'll be counting the self-appointed title of "best fans in the world" as a trophy soon the way your drought is going.

 

[SALTIRE]

The FA Cup isn't a higher accolade than the League Cup now? Classic Liverpool delusion. You'll be counting the self-appointed title of "best fans in the world" as a trophy soon the way your drought is going.

Traditionally it is, but in the scale of things these days it is not as the big teams aim for bigger prizes now.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

The FA Cup isn't a higher accolade than the League Cup now? Classic Liverpool delusion. You'll be counting the self-appointed title of "best fans in the world" as a trophy soon the way your drought is going.

I did hear liverpool roll out the 'more pass completed, more posession & more ground covered' line the other day lmao.

 

[Christian Slater]

Ah, we haven't won it in years so big teams don't try in it. Then why did Liverpool try in a weaker competition?

 

[SALTIRE]

Ah, we haven't won it in years so big teams don't try in it. Then why did Liverpool try in a weaker competition?

We didn't try and harder, we played our game and progressed

 

[Stocky]

Wrong, the FA Cup used to be bigger, but tbh all domestic cups are treated with disdain these days anyway so neither of them are more important than the other now.

Embarrassing.

So you're saying Liverpool haven't won an important domestic trophy for 26 years?

 

[sl1k]

You're right about one thing smat , when the Mou rumours first surfaced all them months ago many United fans including myself much preferred to look elsewhere for lvg's successor. I've personally been a big fan of him throughout the years but the Eva saga in particular was a step too far for me and it proved to be the beginning of the end for him at Chelsea. These are issues with his character but his talent as a manager is unquestionable.

It's been apparent for donkeys that he had eyes for the United job and he's never been shy to express his admiration for the club and Fergie. Family comfortably settled in England which is significant. I'd like to think he would have learned from his mistakes and be determined to make success of what will probably be his last shot at managing a top club in the PL. He'll have Fergie and Bobby keeping close tabs no doubt so can't be fucking around really.

It's a gamble as is the case with any appointment. He is however a winner, and the worst case scenario is he builds a strong squad gets in some silverware and we fuck him off in a few years for being a c***. I'll take that.

 

[G-Dragon]

"Manchester United paid Jose Mourinho £4m to stay away from rivals as former Chelsea boss prepares to sign £75m five-year deal"

Crazy amount. The "Cheque Book One" better start by winning the PL next season!

 

[Christian Slater]

"Manchester United paid Jose Mourinho £4m to stay away from rivals as former Chelsea boss prepares to sign £75m five-year deal"

Crazy amount. The "Cheque Book One" better start by winning the PL next season!

Come on, mate. "Capital One" was there for the taking. You blew it.

 

[G-Dragon]

Come on, mate. "Capital One" was there for the taking. You blew it.

errrr...?

 

[Christian Slater]

Christ.

 

[Mr. Scruff]

Not sure how I feel about this really. In a perfect world Van Gaal would have done slightly better this year and finished off newxt year with Giggs taking over as manager. As it was, Van Gaal probably had to go. I feel no hatred towards him whatsoever unlike the clown that preceded him but his inability to get the best out of his signings plus the fact we seemed to be if anything getting worse against the sides we should be beating meant he needed to go.

He leaves with some good memories though, the cup win a highlight but battering City last year whilst beating Liverpool 4 times on the trot in the league is brilliant. The little spells we had under him were as good as football as we've seen in years but we just couldnt reproduce it often enough, especially against teams who come to play on the break. He was too one dimensional and his failure to adapt cost him.

As for Jose, I didn't want him back then and I'm unsure now. But another Moyes or Van Gaal and United are in real trouble so I can see the logic behind it. I'm not sure I agree with any of the cited reasons for not wanting him.

His style of football isn't as defensive as plenty would say.He knows how to grind a win out and against the very best we'll be very compact and defensive but he knows how to attack to. It's a very similar school of thought to Fergusons later years. Most of the time you allow the players the freedom to express themselves but when it calls for it you need to adapt. Nothing wrong with that.

As for youth he gets a hard time. He promoted Zouma this year. Chose a very young Oscar, selling Mata in the process and he's had a few others down the years. Robben was signed and made the main man very young, Obi Mikel was a prominent fixture from a young age. He obviously wont prioritize youth but if they are good enough they'll play under him.

As for his antics the Eva thing is where he fucked up. It reflects badly on him no doubt about it and it cost him his job , though I bet he's happy with how its worked out. I'd hope he has learnt his lesson on this one. As for the rest it's jsut pantomine villainy. I'd love to see more comments on Wenger and Benitez. It's hillarious.

The main reason it feels uncomfortable is I just see him as Chelsea. I grew up with the Fergson one man club and it just feels wrong to have somone so strongly associated with a horrible plastic club following on from him. I don't buy into the mythology of United being special or different, not now Ferguson has gone, but I do think having someone so closely associated with a rival, their clubs greatest ever manager takes the shine off any possible success.

Hope it works out , if it doesn't United are done as a top club you would think.

 

[Humongous Fungus]

I would love Giggs to be United's next manager, he's bound to be shit.

 

[JimJams]

Where does this actually put Giggs? If Jose wants a legacy then there's no place for Giggs to come through. If Giggs harbours any hope of one day managing Utd is it in his best interests that Jose fails? It might sound a bit OTT but if Mourinho is the success he wants to be he'll be there a long time, if he's not then Giggs may get a caretaker spell to prove himself. But as Scruff highlights if this doesn't work out Utd are in serious danger of dropping status so you'd expect they'd go again for the biggest name they can to try and get back amongst things. So is it lose/lose for Giggs? I don't buy into any 'great man to learn from' shit anymore, he's been there under SAF, seen how 2 others approach the job, he needs to start thinking about trying his hand somewhere else doesn't he?

 

[silkyman]

He'd have those two options basically. Hang about as assistant manager or perhaps taking up a youth role and actually get some experience in running a team. Or he could leave and try his hand elsewhere.

The danger there, of course, is that he is actually shit and gets sacked from a couple of championship sides before being added to the pile of former players who have failed as managers.

His best bet is to hang around at Old Trafford and wait for the inevitable opportunity when Jose falls out with everyone and fucks off.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

Whatever Giggs does, I doubt he'll be taking a first job in Spain any time soon.

 

[Pagnell]

Unfortunately for Giggs (and non-United fans), he will never be their manager without going and proving himself elsewhere. And the difficulty there is what team that is good enough to provide that proof is going to take him on? United were burnt already by a manager with no experience of winning, but at least Moyes had the advantage over Giggs of a decade of experience in the league, albeit without doing much.

In short, in terms of his long term Manchester United managerial ambitions, Giggs is fucked.

 

[Stocky]

Why would a Championship side take a chance on Giggs?

 

[Pagnell]

His best bet is to hang around at Old Trafford and wait for the inevitable opportunity when Jose falls out with everyone and fucks off.

Even then they wouldn't allow him to step up. They simply cannot afford another manager that doesn't bring home the goods, and when all said and done, despite his vast experience with United as a player, as a manager he's a nothing and will remain a nothing if he hangs around like a bad smell hoping something eventually goes wrong for Mourinho (which it inevitably will given how much of an arrogant, antagonistic dick he is). They're about to enter their second season in three without Champions League football. That is disastrous and can't be allowed to happen again.

 

[Mr. Scruff]

His best shot was succeeding a succesful Van Gaal no doubt about it.

Now I can only see us going for his from a posiition of extreme strength, say Jose comes in and cleans up 3 or 4 league titles with some European succes thrown in too, then rides off into the sunset for the Portugal job in 5 years or extreme weakness say it's a disaster and we have Moyes esque seasons for the next 3 years plus leading to a lack of commerical revenue and diminished status.

Either that or hope for another Ranieri esque miracle at an unfashionable club.

 

[CharlieAdamno1Fan]

"A lawyer for the League Managers' Association, Paul Gilroy QC, has arrived at United's training ground. He initially tried to gain access but was turned away, but he returned about 15 minutes later and was allowed to go straight in.

"His CV includes names such as Roy Hodgson, Martin O'Neill, Gianfranco Zola, Sir Alex Ferguson, Harry Redknapp and David Moyes. Indeed he dealt with Moyes' departure from United as well. It could be coincidence that he's here with Louis van Gaal but the likelihood is that negotiations are well under way as regards a possible severance package."

 

[silkyman]

Daily Mail saying it's now official that he and his Dutch backroom staff have been given the heave ho.

 

[AFCB_Mark]

What'll happen first, will Juan Mata hand in a transfer request or will he wait to be transfer listed?

 

[Pagnell]

What'll happen first, will Juan Mata hand in a transfer request or will he wait to be transfer listed?

Neither. He'll be rewarded for getting Mourinho his dream job after bringing Moyes and Van Gaal down from within.

 

[Mustard]

Really not sure about Mourinho at United, it seems that the United board doesn't really know what they are doing. Do they want short term success? Do they want a manager to define a 'style' at United much like at Ajax or Barcelona? Although LVG's results weren't great on the pitch, he was at least bringing through a lot of youth players much like SAF did, players that history suggests won't get a look in under a short sighted Mourinho. United for me are a club that has always given youth players a chance and they have done well off it, so it's a shame to see them go the other way. I can see United being in the same position as they are now in 2-3 years time, but without the younger players to build upon. Maybe they'll have a trophy or two to show for it, it's usually a given with Mourinho but this is his toughest challenge yet given he's somewhat lost his 'aura'.

 

[Pagnell]

Really not sure about Mourinho at United, it seems that the United board doesn't really know what they are doing.

They don't. Their original post-Ferguson 'long term' plan was blown out the water and shown for what it was by Moyes. Van Gaal was a stop gap whilst they regrouped and decided what to do next and what direction they could take the club in long term. They never wanted Mourinho. If they did, they could have had him immediately after Ferguson walked, and with his reputation far less tarnished. Bringing him in now is simply Wardward and co. panicking at the prospect of them failing to qualify for the CL again next season and there being no one else suitable on the market.

 

[JaseTheVillain]

Van Gaal has now officially been sacked.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/36356584

 

[Stevencc]

So long Louis, cheers for the cup and that time you fell over on the touchline for a laugh.

 

[Pagnell]

"In April 2014, United's mishandling of the sacking of Moyes was heavily criticised, the coach humiliated when learning of his demise through the media.
"The club's hierachy accepted it was wrong that news had leaked out before the manager had been informed. But two years on, it has happened again.
"Van Gaal was apparently informed of his impending departure by his wife when - still at Wembley following the club's FA Cup Final win - she read the news on the BBC website on Saturday evening.

What a bunch of fucking amateurs.

 

[Liam_SWFC]

Mourinho will win things at United, he's a winner and his style of football reflects that. However he will have to spend big again to achieve this, and this could mean some of the highly rated youngsters such as Rashford, Fosu Mensah might miss out on playing time to a big £50M signing from La Liga. He also has a poor track record when it comes to longevity, he wont be at United for any more than 3-4 years, so it seems United's long term plan has gone out the window.