Jose Mourinho to replace LVG as Man U manager?

[epic73]

oh mourinho stop with those trophy-winning antics of yours you bothersome annoyance

 

[smat]

I do get bored of making the same excellent and correct point over and over again, but this is exactly the sort of tedious crap Mourinho brings and it really is only worth it if you're winning the league or the Champions League. Europe is basically United's whole season now, again.

 

[Skinner]

I read a statistic the other day, this United team had accumulated more points than any other team at the top at this stage of the season bar one season, yet they find themselves eleven points adrift.

Not much you can do when you're competing against a team like that with unlimited resources.

 

[Pagnell]

I read a statistic the other day as well. Namely that Manchester United have only averaged £12m a season less in terms of net spend than Manchester City over the last five seasons. We're hardly talking stupid differences here. And when you consider the next team down on the list (Chelsea of all teams) has spent on average £50m a season less in the same time frame, Mourinho and United being in second should be the absolute very least expected.

 

[Skinner]

United have needed to rebuild more though, plus City have made a fair bit back from sales of players that haven't worked out for them, apart from Di Maria I can't think of any other players that United have made a sum back from (granted I only brainwaved for 30 seconds).

 

[smat]

I read a statistic the other day, this United team had accumulated more points than any other team at the top at this stage of the season bar one season, yet they find themselves eleven points adrift.

Not much you can do when you're competing against a team like that with unlimited resources.

Yes Skinner, Manchester United's problem is that they don't have enough money. As long as City are powered by Gulf billions, United will therefore never win the league again.

 

[Skinner]

Everyone has money mate

 

[Johnnyt]

Last 7 years Liverpool net spend average per year - £23.426m
Trophies = 1 Carling Cup

 

[Humongous Fungus]

Last 7 years Liverpool net spend average per year - £23.426m
Trophies = 1 Carling Cup

Exactly, it's more than money that makes City the best team. It still makes me laugh United fans claim they are a proper team that wins things the old fashioned way.

 

[Pagnell]

Last 7 years Liverpool net spend average per year - £23.426m
Trophies = 1 Carling Cup

In terms of trying to make this point, you'd have probably been better using Everton or Crystal Palace. Both have a net spend over the last 5 years in excess of Liverpool's and have won fuck all.

 

[Johnnyt]

In terms of trying to make this point, you'd have probably been better using Everton or Crystal Palace. Both have a net spend over the last 5 years in excess of Liverpool's and have won fuck all.

Oh i agree with you buddy just thought it was a better example.

 

[epic73]

In terms of trying to make this point, you'd have probably been better using Everton or Crystal Palace. Both have a net spend over the last 5 years in excess of Liverpool's and have won fuck all.

Palace?

 

[Johnnyt]

Palace?

Its not a real one just a football club name.

 

[Pagnell]

Yes.

http://www.transferleague.co.uk/pre...tables/premier-league-table-last-five-seasons

 

[JimJams]

What a horribly done table.

 

[Pagnell]

Yup, doesn't appear to be in any particular order.

 

[Mr. Scruff]

I read a statistic the other day as well. Namely that Manchester United have only averaged £12m a season less in terms of net spend than Manchester City over the last five seasons. We're hardly talking stupid differences here. And when you consider the next team down on the list (Chelsea of all teams) has spent on average £50m a season less in the same time frame, Mourinho and United being in second should be the absolute very least expected.

Thats all very fair and well if you want to make the point that the club has failed. No doubt these past 5 years we have spent horribly at times but you cant pin that on Mourinho.

The fact City looking magnificent this year puts a downer on our progress is unfortunate but I think by and large he is doing a good job, We are second in the table and look comfortable for top 4 after winning two major trophies last year. The football is by and large better than under LVG and we are scoring more goals than for a long time.

Yes he has spent a fair sum doing so but Van Gaal was horrible in the market so we were no better than when he and Moyes started. At the moment United look at least a year behind City but given what Pep started with compared to Jose* and that he has spent more money on more players you would expect that.

* Im aware that the squad Guardiola inherited had serious issues too but in Silva, De Bruyne and Aguero he inherited 3 world class players in their prime to build around off the bat. Apart from De Gea Jose had no one similar in his squad. The best players he inherited are Martial and Rashford who are still a way off peak.

When you throw in the injury for over 2 months and what can only be described as a very questionable red card for the derby to our best and most important player he is at lest at par this year. Had fortunes ben reversed and it was De Bruyne who suffered the table could look very different.

It comes with some cavaets of course, he has been overly negative at times especially at Anfield, Miki was worth a punt at that price but has failed miserably and Lukaku will struggle to justify his fee based on perfotmances so far but I think the progress made so far is enormous and given one more summer we could be one of the best sides in Europe.

 

[smat]

winning two major trophies last year.

Don't make me LAUGH

 

[epic73]

Don't make me LAUGH

Despite what you Arsenal fans think, the Community Shield is not in fact a major trophy.

 

[G-Dragon]

Manchester City players singing "Park the bus, park the bus man united" in the dressing room after today's win

https://streamable.com/js7tv

Pretty funny tbh.

 

[Benji]

Does this guy still live in a hotel like Alan Partridge?

 

[Pagnell]

And more importantly, does he have his own plate?

 

[King Kev]

Does this guy still live in a hotel like Alan Partridge?

Its a Travel Tavern

 

[Pagnell]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42488421

So he spends £160m+ on just two players in the last two summers and comes out with that? What a fucking numpty.

As we already know abiut him, nothing but a chequebook manager. Perhaps he should do a direct comparison between City's and United's spend in recent years.

 

[Skinner]

He's being stupid there yeah, but Porto and Inter prove he's more than just a chequebook manager, something which Guardiola has yet to prove, and probably never will.

 

[JimJams]

Guardiola is far more than a chequebook manager. However his style of play may require the very best players, but when they had the best under Pellegrini they were still underwhelming. Pep is taking great players and making a great team with a real identity and style to their play. And at City at least its not that boring tiki taka shit.
Jose is spending money on good players but theres little in the way to an identity to their play atm. If anything the only defining thing so far under Jose was his will to play for a draw at the big sides.

 

[Bilo]

There is literally no single thing that takes anything away from what Pep has done at city. They're 19-1-0 for christ's sake. A team having (slightly) more money than anyone else is one thing. That record is something other entirely. It's completely inconceivable.

 

[silkyman]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/42488421

So he spends £160m+ on just two players in the last two summers and comes out with that? What a fucking numpty.

As we already know abiut him, nothing but a chequebook manager. Perhaps he should do a direct comparison between City's and United's spend in recent years.

It’s one of the stupidest things I’ve read in years. No one has bought a full back for £75m, which is what Jose buys strikers for (Liverpool but centre backs for that, mind). £30m is ‘striker’ money for most clubs and they have Lindelof, Shaw and Bailly who are all defenders and cost that much. And one of the full backs city spent ‘Striker money’ on has played five games before being replaced by an out of position £8m midfielder coming off the back of two years of injury.

It’s almost like Mourinho has skipped the ‘always win the title’ second season and gone straight to ‘engineer a sacking for the pay off’ third.

 

[liu]

I guess Mourinho wanted to motivated his players? They won't catch City but the top 4 race is wide open. Might be a smart move if they can consolidate their league position so that they will concentrate on Europe come February.
Anyway, United have underachieve largely since Fergie left and Mourinho has done nothing special to change their fate. They spent so much more than anyone bar City and they look like only slightly more consistent than those teams. And the way City played is embarrassing for them, as they are the only team who have no right to complain about City's spending power.

 

[G-Dragon]