Last matches B4 Xmas: Sat 19th & Tue 22nd December

[Back in the DHSS]

Disappointed that no Tranmere fan added FGR to their lists of new rivals.
In two successive seasons that FGR & Tranmere were in same league, they met each other in a promotion play-off with one win apiece.

Yes without doubt we have a rivalry. Not one which has involved fistycuffs and long may that continue.

 

[Soz]

Of course, now that said I'm not sure the word inconsistent applies for us. In fact the problem is its all too consistent and predictable.

Not buying some of these behind the scenes stories, these things always seem to come out whatever the club when hitting a bad run of form. I do think it was a mistake to bring in McKirdy, didn't like it at the time and nothing have seen even in his contributions on the pitch have convinced me otherwise.

One of the most illuminating moments on Saturday was when Radio Stoke cut away to BoJo the clown and the iFollow stream was just without commentary but could hear everything on the pitch. Walsall were constantly talking both players and managerial staff. Vale by contrast there was nothing from either, doesn't appear to be any leaders in there or at least anyone prepared to be the bad cop in that dressing room and that is needed right now.

i'm with you, not sure i believe the the scare stories about unrest. there's bound to be some unrest if you have a big squad with senior players who don't get a look in. I can't imagine Theo Robinson/Cullen/Brisley/McKirdy are happy to not be playing and especially with the strikers, they barely even get scraps to feed off when they're chucked on for 1 game every 5 and then dropped from the squad the next week. if they're accepting of that situation then I'd be more worried.

I totally get that you don't mess about with a winning team. But in a compacted, unprecedented season and with a core group of aging players, he should be using his subs and his squad to our advantage. I'm not sure "fitness" is the reason for our second half horror shows but we may as well try and prevent those issues when we have 5 subs to use. Didn't do walsall any harm.

re the leadership - i know radio stoke mentioned it after the game on saturday, it's not something I'd noticed but it does make a lot of sense given some of the "defending" we've endured recently. Why we always seem to concede goals to unmarked players, why a cross gets put in adn you can't even see our two centre backs on the screen.

 

[Robshep]

Into my 6th decade watching Tranmere and in all that time I’ve never seen more angrier fans than Bolton’s where ever we’ve played them.
Judging the Bolton Wanderers fans forums I would say that they have more of a rivalry with us than we do with them.

I started going in 1977 and never saw us play them until an FA Cup game in 1982-83. The one thing i do remember about that day is how their fans behaved. In particular my best mates brother needing 200 stitches in his thigh. He wasnt even going to the game because he didn't support us. He was walking to his girlfriends house. I will not, and cannot, deny we had our share of thugs at that time but they never randomly attacked people just for being in another clubs town. That wasn't the only incident that day. There is the cause of the hatred. They did not expect retribution. Certainly not the following day in their own homes. I am not condoning it but we did not start it. They did. They continue it. We do not. Even after last seasons game there were calls for a blanket lifetime ban on all of them from Prenton Park.

 

[Robshep]

Disappointed that no Tranmere fan added FGR to their lists of new rivals.
In two successive seasons that FGR & Tranmere were in same league, they met each other in a promotion play-off with one win apiece.

Its not a proper rivalry. You just have a habit of being annoying on the pitch.. I was in The Green Man before our play off final. It was heaving with our lot and a family of FGR fans wandered in. They were greeted with banter but respect. Nobody was nasty to your fans after the game either as far as i am aware. If they were then they are stupid. We ignored the Boreham Wood fan.

 

[Robshep]

Yes without doubt we have a rivalry. Not one which has involved fistycuffs and long may that continue.

Like to know what they really think of Swampys mate. Doesnt seem positive from what i can gather.

 

[northstandexile]

There really only two great rivalries in the lower leagues

Wrexham vs Chester
and
Chesterfield vs Mansfield

 

[Casey]

What's a rivalry?

Casey

 

[Chris FGR]

What's a rivalry?

Casey

Crawley v Wimbledon?

 

[Robshep]

What's a rivalry?

Casey

You could develop a small rivalry with your near neighbours and non league friends of ours South Park FC and then have a proxy rivalry wirh us if that helps.

 

[Conker]

There really only two great rivalries in the lower leagues

Wrexham vs Chester
and
Chesterfield vs Mansfield

Mansfield and Chesterfield is a proper rivalry, I sorta miss it if I’m being honest. But I still enjoy the current circumstances.

Basically the PROPER rivalries are the ones ya dad wouldn’t let you go to as a kid, hence why I missed that Liam Lawerence goal all those years back, never quite got over missing that!

 

[Back in the DHSS]

I started going in 1977 and never saw us play them until an FA Cup game in 1982-83. The one thing i do remember about that day is how their fans behaved. In particular my best mates brother needing 200 stitches in his thigh. He wasnt even going to the game because he didn't support us. He was walking to his girlfriends house. I will not, and cannot, deny we had our share of thugs at that time but they never randomly attacked people just for being in another clubs town. That wasn't the only incident that day. There is the cause of the hatred. They did not expect retribution. Certainly not the following day in their own homes. I am not condoning it but we did not start it. They did. They continue it. We do not. Even after last seasons game there were calls for a blanket lifetime ban on all of them from Prenton Park.

I went to that game, didn’t Neville Powell equalise for us. There was mayhem behind the main stand in the car park after the game. From what I saw that day,both teams hooligans were as guilty as one another. Have witnessed some really nasty incidents over the years involving our own, especially during that late 70’s early 80’s era . Have spoken to and read many accounts from other clubs older fans about their experiences in Birkenhead which have not been good.

 

[Robshep]

I went to that game, didn’t Neville Powell equalise for us. There was mayhem behind the main stand in the car park after the game. From what I saw that day,both teams hooligans were as guilty as one another. Have witnessed some really nasty incidents over the years involving our own, especially during that late 70’s early 80’s era . Have spoken to and read many accounts from other clubs older fans about their experiences in Birkenhead which have not been good.

The book Awaydays is far more sanitised than reality. One of the main protaganists of it all has written a book that cannot be published until his son has retired from football because of the grief it would cause him. No prizes for guessing who that is. Luckily most of our hooligan element have been banned.

 

[masi51]

Genuine question. Do Man Utd really consider Bolton as rivals? The other teams I get but I would have thought Utd's main rivals would be Liverpool, City and Leeds rather then Bolton?

you obviously dont live in Bolton.......Man Utd fans local to Manchester certainly do

 

[masi51]

I started going in 1977 and never saw us play them until an FA Cup game in 1982-83. The one thing i do remember about that day is how their fans behaved. In particular my best mates brother needing 200 stitches in his thigh. He wasnt even going to the game because he didn't support us. He was walking to his girlfriends house. I will not, and cannot, deny we had our share of thugs at that time but they never randomly attacked people just for being in another clubs town. That wasn't the only incident that day. There is the cause of the hatred. They did not expect retribution. Certainly not the following day in their own homes. I am not condoning it but we did not start it. They did. They continue it. We do not. Even after last seasons game there were calls for a blanket lifetime ban on all of them from Prenton Park.

Keep telling you ...you cannot tar everybody with the same Brush.......Never been to the football looking for trouble.....NEVER

 

[Robshep]

you obviously dont live in Bolton.......Man Utd fans local to Manchester certainly do

Loads of Everton fans live in Prestatyn and Rhyl but it hardly makes them a rival.

 

[Myblueheaven04]

you obviously dont live in Bolton.......Man Utd fans local to Manchester certainly do

Oh come on pal..... oldham is full of utd fans...... they dont see us as rivals other than local links...... due to the 6 miles between us.
I know alot of utd fans and i cant recall any talking about bolton when discusing rivals. Sorry pal but i think your deluded if you think differently, but you are allowed your opinion even if we dont agree.

 

[Robshep]

Keep telling you ...you cannot tar everybody with the same Brush.......Never been to the football looking for trouble.....NEVER

Not tarring everybody with the same brush but the indisputable fact remains that Bolton have more thuggish fans percentage wise than the majority.

 

[Back in the DHSS]

Mansfield and Chesterfield is a proper rivalry, I sorta miss it if I’m being honest. But I still enjoy the current circumstances.

Basically the PROPER rivalries are the ones ya dad wouldn’t let you go to as a kid, hence why I missed that Liam Lawerence goal all those years back, never quite got over missing that!

Didn’t the Derby/Forest hools turn out for some of these games too.

 

[masi51]

If we mean nothing to you why was your fan forum full of your foul mouthed knuckle draggers saying how much they hate us and how much they are looking forward to beating us last Saturday. Didn`t happen did it. Enjoy Dover, Borehamwood and Maidenhead on a Tuesday night.

not happening.....never will unlike your years in the wilderness

 

[masi51]

Not tarring everybody with the same brush but the indisputable fact remains that Bolton have more thuggish fans percentage wise than the majority.

So for that you Slaughtered me the moment i came here......logic

 

[masi51]

Oh come on pal..... oldham is full of utd fans...... they dont see us as rivals other than local links...... due to the 6 miles between us.
I know alot of utd fans and i cant recall any talking about bolton when discusing rivals. Sorry pal but i think your deluded if you think differently, but you are allowed your opinion even if we dont agree.

Not going to get into a debate.......Bolton v Man Utd down the years has been awful with idiots from both sides
Many have done jail time following Bolton v Man U games

 

[BarraMatt]

There really only two great rivalries in the lower leagues

Wrexham vs Chester
and
Chesterfield vs Mansfield

I'd make it three.

Chipmunx v Wrexham.

 

[Robshep]

So for that you Slaughtered me the moment i came here......logic

Not at all. I slaughtered you for talking a huge amount of garbage.

 

[masi51]

Not at all. I slaughtered you for talking a huge amount of garbage.

Carry on if you wish i dont really give a toss about your thoughts on Bolton or me

You dont half talk some shite though

 

[masi51]

Oh come on pal..... oldham is full of utd fans...... they dont see us as rivals other than local links...... due to the 6 miles between us.
I know alot of utd fans and i cant recall any talking about bolton when discusing rivals. Sorry pal but i think your deluded if you think differently, but you are allowed your opinion even if we dont agree.

not a problem you put your view i put mine.....If you know Carl Spiers ask him about Bolton v Man Utd

 

[Robshep]

Carry on if you wish i dont really give a toss about your thoughts on Bolton or me

You dont half talk some shite though

Reflecting again.

 

[masi51]

Reflecting again.

Nah softlad
You have got boring time to fuck you off me thinks

 

[Robshep]

Nah softlad
You have got boring time to fuck you off me thinks

I am going nowhere and you will never stop being a dick. Impasse. Thats a big foreign word. Ask a grown up to explain.

 

[Conker]

Didn’t the Derby/Forest hools turn out for some of these games too.

Think a few probably but both clubs have enough wanting a scrap without them!

 

[masi51]

I am going nowhere and you will never stop being a dick. Impasse. Thats a big foreign word. Ask a grown up to explain.

TAhis will be my last post to you......you are now on ignore

Get a fucking life and stop being bitter on what happened 30 years ago
Your worse than a Japanese Sniper.........Goodbye soft lad