League 2 General Chat Thread

[Son of Cod]

I doubt it. You'd ask for a sizeable fee no doubt and nobody is paying hefty money for a keeper that will be 30 next year and has never played higher than L2.

I also question the validity of Grimsby fans claims that your keeper is the best in the division. What is it based on, besides your own bias? He doesn't lead the league in any of the major categories from what I can see. Tell me why he's a better keeper than say, Lee Nicholls at MK Dons. Nicholls has more clean sheets, conceded less goals, a better save percentage. So can you explain your opinion?

Rather obviously, Nicholls has more clean sheets and conceded less because he has one of the best defences in the division in front of him. I'm not saying McKeown is the best by the way, but he's definitely up there.

 

[Luke Imp]

I doubt it. You'd ask for a sizeable fee no doubt and nobody is paying hefty money for a keeper that will be 30 next year and has never played higher than L2.

I also question the validity of Grimsby fans claims that your keeper is the best in the division. What is it based on, besides your own bias? He doesn't lead the league in any of the major categories from what I can see. Tell me why he's a better keeper than say, Lee Nicholls at MK Dons. Nicholls has more clean sheets, conceded less goals, a better save percentage. So can you explain your opinion?

That's an interesting point r.e. the MK 'keeper, but not about comparison's with Grimsby's 'keeper.

I say that because about 3 weeks ago on the updated Experimental 361 stats, the amount of shots MK allow on goal per match is more in keeping with a lower third side, yet are way ahead of us and Mansfield in terms of shots to goals.

Is that because they defend their box well and most are long range shots or the 'keeper?

 

[Agombar stool]

If you try to watch the game with a more neutral head on, most of the contentious decisions the referees make are correct to be fair. It snowballs too though, so as soon as everyone is up in arms about something they think was wrong (often when it wasn't), they all start going mental over little things straight afterwards that were also correct as they're already riled up now and are incorrectly feeling hard done by. Happens every game.

I couldn’t agree more. I’m definitely in the minority of football fans who don’t scream at the referees for every decision like 90% of the people in the stand around me. I try and look at the game objectively, taking off the red tinted spectacles.

 

[Stringy]

Are there many poor first choice keepers in the division or are most of them pretty good? Unless I'm just not paying attention you barely read anything on here about poor keepers.

 

[Gladders]

McKeown is a great shot stopper and definitely pulls of some saves that win us games and the fans remember those moments.

But he is poor at kicking and doesn't command his area well, he's a decent league 2 keeper I wouldn't say he is the best and if he is there must be some poor keepers at this level.

If we go on a poor run again it won't be long before our fans are on maccas back. It just takes a world ie save for them to praise him again.

Don't get me wrong I'm happy with him being our keeper but our fans do tend to go over the top with how good he is. Other than shot stopping I'd say he is average.

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

I wouldn't say McKeown is the best keeper in this league but he is having the best season of his entire career. He alone has won us a staggering amount of points this season and beforehand played a major part in keeping us up. In terms of playing at the highest possible level, there are likely better candidates but I'd be shocked if there's a keeper in better form at the minute.

 

[Son of Cod]

I wouldn't say McKeown is the best keeper in this league but he is having the best season of his entire career. He alone has won us a staggering amount of points this season and beforehand played a major part in keeping us up. In terms of playing at the highest possible level, there are likely better candidates but I'd be shocked if there's a keeper in better form at the minute.

Seen a few people on The Fishy saying this is his best season as well. He is indeed having a great season now, but I think he has some way to go to top that 2nd season we got to the playoffs in. Admittedly, he dropped a clanger in the playoffs but he was unreal that season.

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

Seen a few people on The Fishy saying this is his best season as well. He is indeed having a great season now, but I think he has some way to go to top that 2nd season we got to the playoffs in. Admittedly, he dropped a clanger in the playoffs but he was unreal that season.

Yeah he had some unreal spells of form in the conference, the Trophy run in 12/13 springs to mind when he made a world class save in the semis against Dartford before his man of the match performance in the final. Considering we are only half way through the season though, I'd say he's already only a couple more blinders away from topping any season he's had.

 

[Son of Cod]

Yeah he had some unreal spells of form in the conference, the Trophy run in 12/13 springs to mind when he made a world class save in the semis against Dartford before his man of the match performance in the final. Considering we are only half way through the season though, I'd say he's already only a couple more blinders away from topping any season he's had.

Yeah, that's a fair point. It does seem like he's won us a lot of points already*. I guess we notice them a bit more at the wrong end of the table though maybe? There are probably games I have forgotten about that he did really well in but Amond, Hearn or Connell went up the other end and bagged a brace. In contrast, I guess mistakes are highlighted more down in a relegation scrap.

*Is there an Experimental 365 or "XG" for this? Absolute certain goals prevented and/or points won by goalkeepeers?

 

[Lborostag]

Enjoying all this talk about how good Grimsby's keeper is. You just know he will have a mare against us on new years day now

 

[AdamStag]

Enjoying all this talk about how good Grimsby's keeper is. You just know he will have a mare against us on new years day now

Hopefully

Mind if Grimsby have done their homework just load our box with crosses, Logan will cause chaos, fortunately got away with it so far

 

[Davidimp]

Grimsby's keeper pretty much won them the game yesterday with a standout performance but the league paper has only given him 7/10, how bizarre!
The Crawley keeper got their keeper of the day, granted I doubt the Grimsby fans on here will care too much after another cracking display from McKeown

 

[valefan16]

It’s hard to judge keepers in terms of ranking them as you often only see most once or twice, Brown for us has been outstanding for instance so I’d rank him up there but without seeing regular clips of others it’s hard to place keepers.

In terms of McKeown however he had one of the best games from a keeper seen against the Vale in a good few years at Blundell Park last season. We scored early on and should of been about 4-0 up before they inevitably scored a sucker punch to equalise in injury time. Saved a penalty and his save from Anton Forrester was unreal. 9.5 times out of 10 the top corner of the net bulges there.

Had we won that and ended the unbeaten run earlier things may have been much more comfortable for us. Think we were actually linked with him when we sold Alnwick in our last league one season actually.

 

[Davidimp]

McKeown has been top drawer for Grimsby for years, amazed that a team from higher up hasn't snapped him up yet.

 

[AdamStag]

What I can prove beyond doubt is that our defence is the best

 

[PaulHaddock]

I doubt it. You'd ask for a sizeable fee no doubt and nobody is paying hefty money for a keeper that will be 30 next year and has never played higher than L2.

I also question the validity of Grimsby fans claims that your keeper is the best in the division. What is it based on, besides your own bias? He doesn't lead the league in any of the major categories from what I can see. Tell me why he's a better keeper than say, Lee Nicholls at MK Dons. Nicholls has more clean sheets, conceded less goals, a better save percentage. So can you explain your opinion?

I’m pretty sure MK’s defence is far better than ours? I’m assuming he has to face a lot less shots as a result.

Ask fans of Exeter, PV, Mansfield and probably a few other teams for an opinion. He’s kept us in countless games this season. If you read my post again, you’ll see I said best shot-stopper and I think you’d be hard-pressed to disagree if you’d seen the games I had this season.

There’s also a stat we trotted out a few weeks back that he’d saved 5 of his last 12 penalties which I believe is still the case. On other hand, he’s let in 3 free kicks this season.

Is he best overall? Probably not. He’s definitely getting there.

 

[Posh Harry]

McKeown has been top drawer for Grimsby for years, amazed that a team from higher up hasn't snapped him up yet.

As a shot stopper he is championship standard as a minimum.

As others have said his lack of command in the area and his poor distribution keep him from playing at a higher level.

He is also prone to a massive clanger, but most keepers are.

Interestingly a few rumours that Sunderland are showing some interest. I guess they have people watching Embleton at all of our games and as Macca is having mom performances week in week out, the reports probably look very favourable.

 

[PaulHaddock]

McKeown is decent in that he does seem to make a lot of spectacular saves, but I'm sure he also seems more prone to a howler than most goalkeepers too.

You say that but he’s made 0 errors leading to goals this season!

 

[AdamStag]

I’m pretty sure MK’s defence is far better than ours? I’m assuming he has to face a lot less shots as a result.

Ask fans of Exeter, PV, Mansfield and probably a few other teams for an opinion. He’s kept us in countless games this season. If you read my post again, you’ll see I said best shot-stopper and I think you’d be hard-pressed to disagree if you’d seen the games I had this season.

There’s also a stat we trotted out a few weeks back that he’d saved 5 of his last 12 penalties which I believe is still the case. On other hand, he’s let in 3 free kicks this season.

Is he best overall? Probably not. He’s definitely getting there.

Your keeper did play a blinder at field mill - we ended up winning 2-1, but it could quite easily have been 5. Remember him getting an ovation from the home fans when we walked off.

 

[Son of Cod]

You say that but he’s made 0 errors leading to goals this season!

He was at least partly at fault for that mare of a goal on the opening day.

 

[PaulHaddock]

He was at least partly at fault for that mare of a goal on the opening day.

I am adamantly against that! Was watching highlights a few weeks ago and Collins passed to McKeown at the left of the box 5 minutes earlier in a near identical situation. Collins or kitman’s fault imo.

The real question is, is McKeown better than Doug Lindberg?

 

[Son of Cod]

I am adamantly against that! Was watching highlights a few weeks ago and Collins passed to McKeown at the left of the box 5 minutes earlier in a near identical situation. Collins or kitman’s fault imo.

The real question is, is McKeown better than Doug Lindberg?

Surely McKeown needs to communicate his whereabouts to his defenders though? I agree it was Collins who was more at fault but McKeown has to take at least some of the blame.

Hahaha and nobody is better than Doug Lindberg GK Icon.

 

[denzel ecfc]

I see Denzil has deleted his posts to me and Clarkey so I guess he’s watched it back and realised he was wrong on everything.
Firstly Exeter’s disallowed goal is well offside, he needs to go to Specsavers if he thinks it’s not, and secondly the ball through that we win our pen from comes off Exeter no.27’s shoulder so therefore it can’t be offside, and Rose is not past the last man anyway so even so it wouldn’t be offside anyway.
Apart from those 3 things he was spot on.

Yes I was a bit hasty. Sorry about that. Just massively frustrated at the result yesterday.
Just gone out on a long bike ride through the hills to get some perspective.
Hopefully the players are just as frustrated and can take this out on Swindon on Tuesday.
No idea who this Denzil chap is though..

 

[Indian Dan]

Looking forward to Tuesday’s game - should be a cracker. Are you likely to be without Stockley as he’s off to PNE I hear.

 

[denzel ecfc]

Looking forward to Tuesday’s game - should be a cracker. Are you likely to be without Stockley as he’s off to PNE I hear.

Well possibly, though we have lined up Ryan Bowman from Motherwell as a replacement.
Hopefully Holmes and Law will start on Tuesday and we can get plenty of decent chances.

 

[Tranmerewhite]

Re Goalkeepers, doesn’t our Scott Davies have the highest shot saved percentage at 75%? That d3d4 twitter page had him down as the best this season so far. He’s not great on crosses some of the time though.

Hard to quantify who the best keeper is at this level, haven’t seen any particularly good at kicking.

 

[devilofajob]

Grimsby's keeper pretty much won them the game yesterday with a standout performance but the league paper has only given him 7/10, how bizarre!
The Crawley keeper got their keeper of the day, granted I doubt the Grimsby fans on here will care too much after another cracking display from McKeown

Without Glenn Morris I think we'd have been in a lot of trouble last season, and much nearer the bottom this. I don't think there is a "best" keeper in league 2, but Morris is certainly a good one.

 

[Si Robin]

I'd say the same about Scott Flinders - without him this season we'd have been absolutely battered in quite a few games - yesterday for example we could have been 3 down at half-time and would have been if we'd had either of the keepers that started our last two seasons.

Wouldn't dream of calling him best in the league though, I'd still have Scott Brown ahead of him.

 

[Roger Stone]

Good result. The del boys getting something from Rodders parade.

I was at work so watching updates so any honest summaries about our exciting 0-0 would be appreciated.

Casey

A dreadful game. 2 shit teams devoid of any skill, endeavour or quality. Some 24 hrs later, cant remember anything of note happening. Hopefully, just a cunning ploy by us to confuse the watching Leicester City scouts.

 

[Tranmerewhite]

A dreadful game. 2 shit teams devoid of any skill, endeavour or quality. Some 24 hrs later, cant remember anything of note happening. Hopefully, just a cunning ploy by us to confuse the watching Leicester City scouts.

That’s obviously why we didn’t turn up too.

Putting Tottenham in a false sense of security before we rock up and batter them 1-1.