League 2 General Chat Thread

[shoddycollins]

It will be if it keeps happening. They were fined £1200 against us and that fine will keep doubling. Their owner is a billionaire however so maybe he doesn't care.

If it does keep doubling then at least the 21st time the fine will be over a billion.

 

[AdamStag]

Yes Carver, I agree buddy

you’ll be one soon if you’re not careful.

 

[kieran_vale]

Our game with Bradford will be on Sky. First time in ages we’ll have had a league game televised. At least there are other clubs in this league than the Salford Hobby Club.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447577738039087106

 

[Agombar stool]

Our game with Bradford will be on Sky. First time in ages we’ll have had a league game televised. At least there are other clubs in this league than the Salford Hobby Club.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447577738039087106

Is that another International break?

 

[LS Bantam]

Is that another International break?

 

[valefan16]

Is that another International break?

Yes.

Decent pick I guess.

 

[Andy Proctor]

We have lost twice already this season on international weekends. Regarding this game being on TV and a 12pm kick off I'd rather the club say no we don't want be in TV and keep it as a 3pm kick off. This game would have had 7000 there with Bradford bring around 1300 but now will be 4500 crowd with 300 Bradford.

 

[Devon_Lad]

Re the new stadium FGR are having built of out of wood, how are they eliminating the obvious fire risk? Probably treated with lots of fire retardant chemicals? Not really that eco friendly is it?

Like so much else to do with Forest Green, the new stadium is an attention-seeking gimmick. There is nothing environmentally friendly about building an entirely unnecessary stadium on a green field site that is very difficult to access by any other means than by car.

Vince really is a c--t

 

[FGR Stroud]

Re the new stadium FGR are having built of out of wood, how are they eliminating the obvious fire risk? Probably treated with lots of fire retardant chemicals? Not really that eco friendly is it?

Like so much else to do with Forest Green, the new stadium is an attention-seeking gimmick. There is nothing environmentally friendly about building an entirely unnecessary stadium on a green field site that is very difficult to access by any other means than by car.

Vince really is a c--t

[1] Yes concerns were raised that stadium will be all wood. However fans have been assured it will not be flammable
[2] New stadium is certainly NOT attention seeking. Saturday's game against Swindon clearly showed the sooner FGR move away from top of hill, the better. The road was gridlocked before start of match and especially at game end. It took an hour on bus to get from TNL down to bottom of hill. Next season, assuming FGR get promoted, a 3,000+ crowd would be the norm, and those conditions would become the norm.
[3] Agreed the new stadium is a fair bit to walk from Stonehouse [nearest rail station] but supporters could use a scooter and scoot to matches. The club have said there will be a dedicated bus service on match days.
[4] The new stadium has a potential greater catchment area than Nailsworth, which is in the middle of nowhere and TNL is on the edge of it. Visiting fans will be pleased that Eco Park is only 50 yards from exit 13 of M5. Quick and easy to get to and get away.
[6] You may be right or maybe wrong in your opinion of Dale Vince OBE, but his publicity is bringing in massive sponsorship to the club. For instance he was on Radio 4 news this morning launching his EFL GREEN CLUBS scheme.

 

[Trapdoor]

He's an egomaniac who frankly cares more about making money then the environment. He thinks he's Greta Thurnberg but he's got more in common with Donald Trump.

 

[Agombar stool]

Yes.

Decent pick I guess.

Looking at the fixtures on that date its probably the least bad selection tbh. The other games look as appetising as a dogshit casserole.

 

[Chris FGR]

The stadium definitely is an attention seeking move. Vince’s entire M.O is all about attention seeking, publicity stunts etc.

This is done to promote a Green agenda (fair enough I suppose) but also to promote his company, side projects and political ambitions all whilst making him richer and higher profile in the process (not so keen on him using the club for all that tbh). He’s also been able to write off a lot of the football clubs losses against tax, although an effort has been made to make the club more financially sustainable in recent years. It’s all win win as far as he’s concerned.

Not a big fan of the new stadium’s location, not bothered what it’s built out of but from what I’ve heard I wouldn’t get your hopes up it will be built anytime soon. Quite a few issues still to resolve, including funding.

 

[Chris FGR]

Re the new stadium FGR are having built of out of wood, how are they eliminating the obvious fire risk? Probably treated with lots of fire retardant chemicals? Not really that eco friendly is it?

Like so much else to do with Forest Green, the new stadium is an attention-seeking gimmick. There is nothing environmentally friendly about building an entirely unnecessary stadium on a green field site that is very difficult to access by any other means than by car.

Vince really is a c--t

In terms of your point about timber construction, mass timber/CLT is actually becoming a pretty popular material to work with, has a number of benefits apparently. http://www.vox.com/platform/amp/ene...ing-materials-mass-timber-cross-laminated-clt

Can’t argue Vince isn’t everyone’s cup of tea, with our current crowds it’s definitely debatable whether we actually need this stadium. Could very easily become a white elephant.

 

[F!RTHY]

We have lost twice already this season on international weekends. Regarding this game being on TV and a 12pm kick off I'd rather the club say no we don't want be in TV and keep it as a 3pm kick off. This game would have had 7000 there with Bradford bring around 1300 but now will be 4500 crowd with 300 Bradford.

Discounted tickets? Our fanbase loves a cheap ticket or two.

 

[chipmunx]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447910747225341959

 

[shoddycollins]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447910747225341959

Good news for the Barra fans who can now hit Botchergate for a night on the piss at the earlier time of 3pm... presumably celebrating a victory.

 

[FGR Stroud]

He's an egomaniac who frankly cares more about making money then the environment. He thinks he's Greta Thurnberg but he's got more in common with Donald Trump.

Not true.

[1] Dale V saved the club from going out of business and has invested heavily with his own money for it to become an EFL club.
[2] He cares more about the environment than anything else. He is using FGR to broadcast his message.

If that makes him an egomaniac, so be it.

BTW I love my Sunday Roast and hate being only offered Vegan at TNL, but it seems to be working. The publicity it generates is out of proportion to size of club.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

Vince paying for targeted ads on Facebook to promote his personal Facebook page makes him a bit of an egomaniac.

 

[Monkey Tennis]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447910747225341959

Good. Can see some of the 'dafter' fans trying to whip this up into some kind of rivalry, so at least they'll have a couple of hours' less booze inside them.

Don't know what the allocation would be, but you'd imagine easily 1,000 would travel.

 

[shoddycollins]

Vince paying for targeted ads on Facebook to promote his personal Facebook page makes him a bit of an egomaniac.

He's definitely an egomaniac, there's no doubt about that. Whether he's only using FGR to serve his ego is another question.

 

[Indian Dan]

He also lied through his teeth regarding the shambles of getting 1200 away fans into the stadium on Saturday. 2 turnstiles, tickets refusing to scan properly, fans with valid tickets being refused entry. If FGR do go up they had better sort out the tinpot shambles of crowd management.

 

[shoddycollins]

Good. Can see some of the 'dafter' fans trying to whip this up into some kind of rivalry, so at least they'll have a couple of hours' less booze inside them.

Don't know what the allocation would be, but you'd imagine easily 1,000 would travel.

Quick check we offer most teams 300 initially but we usually just keep offering the away team as many tickets as they can sell. Unless the police get involved I don't think we've ever said to a club who sold, e.g. 1500 that they couldn't have another 500. The away end holds 2000 and if someone really feels they can get a bumper crowd (last time was Oxford because they stood to get promoted) we can increase away capacity to 3000.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

Dale is definitely more well endowed on the ego front than most but the idea that Rees-Mogg junior devon lad has caught him out by spotting (four years after it was news) that he plans a stadium made out of wood is yet another example of his thick-as-shit think's-he's-clever MO. Suppose regurgitating tedious climate change denialist bollocks is better than kill the poor or misogyny though, so there is that.

 

[Chris FGR]

The Gateway To Stroud will be an improvement on what’s currently there if the Eco Park gets permission as well, the junction 13 improvements plus widening of the A419 will mean less of a bottleneck during busy times. Plus traffic in and out of the stadium will be a lot better then it currently is at The New Lawn. Less queuing traffic = less pollution.

 

[FGR Stroud]

He also lied through his teeth regarding the shambles of getting 1200 away fans into the stadium on Saturday. 2 turnstiles, tickets refusing to scan properly, fans with valid tickets being refused entry. If FGR do go up they had better sort out the tinpot shambles of crowd management.

Agree, agree, agree.
Bloody embarrassing that even left the home fans red with anger.

I go to most if not all away games and I'd hate it if other club's away stands were as awful as at TNL.

 

[Vanni]

I don't really need to state the obvious but life's all about give and take and football's no different. I remember having a chat with a couple FGR fans when Cambridge were in the connie and the two chaps told me staying up was what they were focused on. Not only did they achieve that but now they're a well established FL club and looking good for promotion to L1.

Of course what they have achieved is all down to Vince so can one really blame him when he 'takes' something back and uses the club as a vehicle for his vegan etc personal beliefs?

And speaking of meat and animal based diets, I suggest you chaps better get used to a veggie diet now 'cos I'm afraid it won't be that long before eating meat will be frowned upon. There's really no alternative if we're to save the planet for future generations. It's going to be just like the whole smoking thing - I do like a fag now and then but every time I light up people look at me like I'm Jihadi John.

 

[FGR Stroud]

The Gateway To Stroud will be an improvement on what’s currently there if the Eco Park gets permission as well, the junction 13 improvements plus widening of the A419 will mean less of a bottleneck during busy times. Plus traffic in and out of the stadium will be a lot better then it currently is at The New Lawn. Less queuing traffic = less pollution.

But when?
This development has been on the drawing board for about 3 years or more but news about it has gone very quiet of late.
And if Energy Companies are going bust, as they are, will EcoPark ever get built?

 

[BarraMatt]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1447910747225341959

Bastard. I was hoping we'd get time to crush some skulls in Workington on the way up before going on the rampage in Carlisle.

 

[Bottega Don]

What is it with smaller clubs spending a fortune to get to this level but then seemingly never improving their organisation skills?

Harrogate was a shambles on saturday, I know a number of our supporter clubs couldn't get in touch with Harrogate at all for any information on coach parking or anything. Loads of our fans booked to collect tickets at the ground, were told they weren't any to pick up when they got to the away ticket office. The FGR/Swindon debacle is the same and Salford are notoriously terrible as well.

 

[shoddycollins]

But when?
This development has been on the drawing board for about 3 years or more but news about it has gone very quiet of late.
And if Energy Companies are going bust, as they are, will EcoPark ever get built?

Aren't energy companies going bust because of the rising cost of gas? I actually heard Dale Vince on the radio last week arguing that consumers should be protected from price rises, he didn't even mention green energy but I should imagine ecotricity will be just fine if gas prices force competitors out of business.