League 2 General Chat Thread

[AdamStag]

I’m just shocked Mark Hughes isn’t on the shortlist.

Parkinson made a late run for it

 

[クレイグ]

I’m just shocked Mark Hughes isn’t on the shortlist.

No Ash Taylor for best player either. Think the EFL wants investigating tbh.

 

[jacobncfc]

Jones a good example of the futility of individual awards in football really. He’s obliterated the record for assists in a season in English football, he kind of has to win it. But he’s also part of a team that’s been shambolic for quite a lot of the season.

That Crowley and Langstaff could easily have been nominated as well just shows how completely bizarre our season has been.

 

[Scum.]

Graham Alexander should get it. Done a turnaround job at two clubs this season, making both sides worse than they were under previous guidance. That takes skill.

 

[クレイグ]

Graham Alexander should get it. Done a turnaround job at two clubs this season, making both sides worse than they were under previous guidance. That takes skill.

Alexander is the reason you haven't won the title. The Wimbledon fans are busy drawing up plans for a statue.

 

[WhiteRussian]

Alexander is the reason you haven't won the title. The Wimbledon fans are busy drawing up plans for a statue.

Many a word spoken in jest........

 

[WilsdenBantam]

Alexander is the reason you haven't won the title. The Wimbledon fans are busy drawing up plans for a statue.

They should steal him off us, then they can have the real thing instead which is much better. He’d suit their team, they seemed a bunch of rugby players when we played them anyway, right up his street.

 

[Scum.]

Alexander is the reason you haven't won the title. The Wimbledon fans are busy drawing up plans for a statue.

The other Wimbledon fans are drawing up one for sir 900+ games for one club Dean Lewington.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Jones a good example of the futility of individual awards in football really. He’s obliterated the record for assists in a season in English football, he kind of has to win it. But he’s also part of a team that’s been shambolic for quite a lot of the season.

That Crowley and Langstaff could easily have been nominated as well just shows how completely bizarre our season has been.

Crowley without doubt impressive, Langstaff is once again goals, goals, goals but Jones is the clear and obvious candidate from Notts.

When he's not in {insert name of a teams full back} back pocket for a single game he's destroyed teams all season long..... Playing as a wing back.

He can beat a man, and nobody can send in a better cross. Not a bad combo hence the incredible stats. Should win it.

 

[The Jovial Forester]

You'd think with all the managers we've had one of them might have got on the shortlist

 

[chief]

Elliot Lee! He's been terrible since January. Wouldn't even nominate him for Wrexham player of the season.

Pete Wild should be on there I'd say as should be Matt Smith.

Think Max Cleworth should've been in with a shout for young player, he's been phenomenal. I don't think any of ours have been consistently good enough to win the top award. Hard to see past Jodi Jones taking it, as shite as Notts have been. I don't think I've ever seen an assists tally like his.

 

[EnglishRed]

Mental

Update: Board of directors

Our board of directors have provided an update to supporters as the 2023-24 campaign nears its conclusion.

www.nottscountyfc.co.uk

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Of course EnglishRed posts a Notts County board update on a Friday night Standard.

Why wouldn't he?

 

[EnglishRed]

Of course EnglishRed posts a Notts County board update on a Friday night Standard.

Why wouldn't he?

I saw it on twitter, thought it was on general interest to the league? It could have been Colchester or Sutton or Walsall. or anyone, but no it's Notts claiming that actually they are having a better season than their league position suggests and it isn't their defensive players to blame.

"However, they do clearly show that our performances have been good enough to earn a league position significantly better than the 16th place we currently find ourselves in, and we must therefore take this information into consideration when planning for the immediate future.

The metrics also show that our performance levels haven't changed significantly over the season. This may seem counter-intuitive, given the bad results we’ve experienced since the turn of the year, but we haven't been significantly outplayed by any team in that time and have generally created at least as many, and in some cases more, high-quality goalscoring opportunities than our opponents.

Due to the huge amount of luck and variance in results, we always try to look at the bigger picture. Many games have been lost due to fine margins and could easily have gone the other way."

 

[jacobncfc]

It’s basically true, but god could they have worded it better.

 

[Richard Cranium]

It’s fucking waffle

 

[northstandexile]

Unfortunately it is no prizes for winning the xG cup.

 

[RavenBish]

The sentiment behind that statement is fine I guess, I want Maynard sacked as much as the next guy but it is fair to say there’s been an element of luck involved and it’s fine to point to underlying metrics as a means of evidencing that fact.

Unfortunately, I think the statement itself is poorly executed which is rare for our owners and reads more as a desperate defence of Maynard’s managerial ability, which isn’t really what fans want to hear at the moment.

I also think it leaves no doubt he’ll be in charge next season regardless of how we end the season. Which is potentially very depressing but…I think you have to reluctantly appreciate the unemotional approach they take. Very much ‘stick to plan’ compared to the Trew/Hardy gunslinger playbooks and it’s a better way of doing things, I just hope they’ll be decisive when needed. I think you basically only get to release a statement like that once, league position does matter and data doesn’t when there’s videos going viral of your comedic defending every week

 

[Sussexred]

As others have said, considering pre-season predictions and where we are now, it's amazing Scott Lindsey hasn't made the list.

Because we're not a BIG club probably but look at what most proper fans are saying compared to the official short list....says it all really.

 

[CFC91]

The crawley manager should get it.

Though if with a budget of 7th/8th in the league if clough gets mansfield up over the heavyweights in the league it would be a great achievement

Who has bigger budgets than you lot? I saw some eye watering numbers from Wrexham and Stockports accounts from last year so assume those two but wouldn’t have had many more above you (MK maybe)

What sort of figures are we talking? Ours is £2.1m from our chairman’s podcast and 3rd biggest in NL according to the Dorking chairman so we might need real investment to compete with some of the numbers banded about on social media

 

[Sussexred]

The other Wimbledon fans are drawing up one for sir 900+ games for one club Dean Lewington.

Will it resemble a carthorse?

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

I saw it on twitter, thought it was on general interest to the league? It could have been Colchester or Sutton or Walsall. or anyone, but no it's Notts claiming that actually they are having a better season than their league position suggests and it isn't their defensive players to blame.

"However, they do clearly show that our performances have been good enough to earn a league position significantly better than the 16th place we currently find ourselves in, and we must therefore take this information into consideration when planning for the immediate future.

The metrics also show that our performance levels haven't changed significantly over the season. This may seem counter-intuitive, given the bad results we’ve experienced since the turn of the year, but we haven't been significantly outplayed by any team in that time and have generally created at least as many, and in some cases more, high-quality goalscoring opportunities than our opponents.

Due to the huge amount of luck and variance in results, we always try to look at the bigger picture. Many games have been lost due to fine margins and could easily have gone the other way."

Of course you did. Who posted it on here first was a very even contest between you and Master D, was incredibly hard to call who was favourite. Both very short odds, with a Mansfield fan, Notts fans at reasonable odds and Stocky as the outsider.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

It’s basically true, but god could they have worded it better.

Damnnnn straight. Sure will fire up the older more moaney element of our fanbase.

It's the first misstep from our shy but successful danish owners.

Agree the fundamentals are correct, I for one am delighted that the club are analysing games to this high level even if I don't understand every metric. Anything is better than the Teletext brigade who can't see past the result for game, and never take performance or any individual moments into account. They might as well never go to a game.

Agree with RavenBish it reeks of desperation to protect the (very fragile) reputation of Part Time Stu. Valiant and not unexpected of course no different to a traditional club's vote of confidence but with our mysterious and measured brothers I took fear it isn't.

Still hope results in the remainder of the season will give the decision more clarity.

 

[Son of Cod]

It’s basically true, but god could they have worded it better.

It's also basically what Artell says in every single interview and we're absolutely fucking rubbish.

 

[Scum.]

Will it resemble a carthorse?

Nah, it will look like the player himself. That seems to be the most logical approach.

 

[EnglishRed]

It's also basically what Artell says in every single interview and we're absolutely fucking rubbish.

At the start of the season when we were letting huge numbers of goals in our xG against was comparable with loads of clubs conceding far less. But we were still letting the goals in, so it was a meaningless metric. Probably some use for data analysis internally but not much help for the fans.

 

[Stocky]

The only time people care about XG is when they lose.

I glance at most stats after our games, glance being the operative word. Shots, possession, XG etc. Not that important but can be of minor intrigue.

But they're not the be all and end all. The other day we battered Forest Green, the FGR fans on here won't argue we were comfortable winners in every metric, put ourselves in 2nd gear for the whole second half and created loads of openings first half. 3-0 win was us taking our foot off the gas. Our XG had us down as only scoring something like 1.15 goals which is ridiculous. The stat basically punished the fact that Callum Camps scored an absolute wonder strike from about 25 plus yards. The XG stat also overly rewards someone winning a penalty as it pumps their XG up massively.

Basically, stats are what they are and can be a decent reference but never let it get in the way of the actual result, league table etc.

The league table is still the best stat in football. Particularly after so long in a season and certainly now. The best teams always finish at the top and the worst ones at the bottom. And the middling, inconsistent teams like Notts this season finish mid table. No shame in it. Just wouldn't want my owners doing a massive essay trying to pull the wool over everybody's eyes.

Notts have some excellent players, some of the best attacking players in the league, they have under performed. And since Maynard came in they have not just under performed they've been in relegation form.

 

[chief]

At the start of the season when we were letting huge numbers of goals in our xG against was comparable with loads of clubs conceding far less. But we were still letting the goals in, so it was a meaningless metric. Probably some use for data analysis internally but not much help for the fans.

In fairness to the xG statistic, Foster couldn't dive so every shot on target resulted in a goal.

 

[GTFCfish]

Who has bigger budgets than you lot? I saw some eye watering numbers from Wrexham and Stockports accounts from last year so assume those two but wouldn’t have had many more above you (MK maybe)

What sort of figures are we talking? Ours is £2.1m from our chairman’s podcast and 3rd biggest in NL according to the Dorking chairman so we might need real investment to compete with some of the numbers banded about on social media

I’d guess MK and Gillingham but that’s only because MK always have a huge budget whenever in this league and Gillingham got bought out by rich owners.

 

[Conker]

Good guesses.

Some clubs have massively underachieved, Colchester have spent a shit ton of money, it was them and Gillingham last January that started going mental. Unbelievable to think the former is in a relegation battle. They actually have a really good squad on paper.

Salford clearly cut back but will still be paying a lot of players top money with a big budget, MK always come down here with a top three budget.