League 2 General Chat Thread

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Irrelevant if it’s Crewe or FGR if one of our players is attacked by fans we’d slate them. Nothing to be bitter about as got a result that pretty much keeps us safe and got the four points wanted over Easter.

There’s a video of the incident where your player cowardly shoves Ben in the stand and one of our fans squares up but doesn’t swing for your lad... in the same video the bizzare incident with the steward plays out where he conceals his face picks up a coin and chucks it towards Hannant before sheepishly retreating into the stand.

Two words: Exodus Geohaghon.

 

[valefan16]

Two words: Exodus Geohaghon.

He wasn't physically assaulted... he was abused (including a racist comment from one fan which was disgraceful) and tried to get to the fan involved.

 

[ValiantRob]

There is not many clubs whos supporters would condone a fan attacking a player. It probably explains how things were allowed to go on there.

 

[valefan16]

There is not many clubs whos supporters would condone a fan attacking a player. It probably explains how things were allowed to go on there.

They don’t when it isn’t them!

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

VF16, let’s be serious for a second. Port Vale FC have an awful rap sheet when it comes to fan behaviour at matches. This has been a clear issue for the club for a long time. Yet Port Vale FC have done very little to address it. All talk, well more like some talk , no action. All brushed under the carpet, whenever the rent-a-mob appear season in season out for bigger games.

Stones clearly being thrown in a big glass house here. Once PVFC sort their own sh!t out first then you can go at other clubs condoning similar behaviour.

Embarrassing

 

[Douglas_Valley_Reds]

I wonder if any video evidence has apperead to identify the vale fans who were ripping seats out and throwing them onto the pitch?

 

[valefan16]

VF16, let’s be serious for a second. Port Vale FC have an awful rap sheet when it comes to fan behaviour at matches. This has been a clear issue for the club for a long time. Yet Port Vale FC have done very little to address it. All talk, well more like some talk , no action. All brushed under the carpet, whenever the rent-a-mob appear season in season out for bigger games.

Stones clearly being thrown in a big glass house here. Once PVFC sort their own sh!t out first then you can go at other clubs condoning similar behaviour.

Embarrassing

Wrong... The club have taken various steps to ensure trouble is limited at Vale Park, the away car park secured, location of away fans, better strewarding and monitoring of CCTV and reporting procedures so much so the policing levels have been dropped drastically at home games this season. Of course your bitterness towards the club means you won’t recognise any of that however.

We are limited what we can do about away games of course that said take out the issues at Grimsby it’s hardly been a huge problem but Vale can’t exactly control what happens at other grounds other than offer intelligence.

Alongside that I don’t recall our fans ever attacking opposition players like that. Crewe also have revelled in any bad press Vale fans have had in the past yet now brush these incidents under the carpet “as they won’t be at Mansfield on Saturday”

 

[valefan16]

I wonder if any video evidence has apperead to identify the vale fans who were ripping seats out and throwing them onto the pitch?

Hopefully so and they get a deserved ban. Let down 2240 well behaved Valiants I believe the club have offered assistance in sorting any of our culprits should Crewe require it. (Not that we do anything of course)

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

Bitterness lol. It’s genuinely nice to hear some actions been taken but let’s fool nobody, if those actions have happened this season as I suspect , then the club have hardly been quick off the mark! Season after season after season Port Vale fans are involved in something disgraceful.

Ripping up and damaging seats? Is this a one off? Of course not they’ve been reported before that.

Fighting on the touchline/pitch , first offence for the Vale? Nah, don’t be silly , you don’t have to go far back for another example

Racist abuse of your own player caught on camera ? Check!

Mass trouble outside opposition grounds ? Damn right, sadly.

You do realise that the fans are still representing and are the responsibility of the club when you travel away from home ?!

You can’t just say, oh it’s not at Vale Park so it’s nothing to do with us.

The examples are almost endless. Yet you feel you are in any position to have a go at any other L2 club??? Jokes lol

 

[Cereal Killer]

Wrong... The club have taken various steps to ensure trouble is limited at Vale Park, the away car park secured, location of away fans, better strewarding and monitoring of CCTV and reporting procedures so much so the policing levels have been dropped drastically at home games this season. Of course your bitterness towards the club means you won’t recognise any of that however.

We are limited what we can do about away games of course that said take out the issues at Grimsby it’s hardly been a huge problem but Vale can’t exactly control what happens at other grounds other than offer intelligence.

Alongside that I don’t recall our fans ever attacking opposition players like that. Crewe also have revelled in any bad press Vale fans have had in the past yet now brush these incidents under the carpet “as they won’t be at Mansfield on Saturday”

Various steps........ do you mean things like not employing Hasselbaink?

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

The only time we've had significant trouble at games without playing either of the Clayheads in the last 16 years of me watching us was a do or die relegation clash at Stockport which kicked off cos we sold out and our tanked up mugs spent the whole day drinking and started scrapping after we lost and Eastleigh at home in the Cup a few years back (cheap tickets, woeful performance, fans demanding Davis out, wasn't a clash with their fans per se but a clash between fans and stewards, few lads ended up in prison after what happened). So it's quite clear that Vale's arrival in Crewe brings out the idiots from both sets of supporters...

As I said before, our mugs only come out for cheap or local games, it's not brushing it under the carpet to say they won't be at Mansfield either (our idiots probably couldn't point Mansfield out on a map) whereas Vale have evidently had a reputation for years at grounds from Oxford to Accrington. It's not being self righteous or holier than thou to point out obvious facts.

 

[valefan16]

Bitterness lol. It’s genuinely nice to hear some actions been taken but let’s fool nobody, if those actions have happened this season as I suspect , then the club have hardly been quick off the mark! Season after season after season Port Vale fans are involved in something disgraceful.

Ripping up and damaging seats? Is this a one off? Of course not they’ve been reported before that.

Fighting on the touchline/pitch , first offence for the Vale? Nah, don’t be silly , you don’t have to go far back for another example

Racist abuse of your own player caught on camera ? Check!

Mass trouble outside opposition grounds ? Damn right, sadly.

You do realise that the fans are still representing and are the responsibility of the club when you travel away from home ?!

You can’t just say, oh it’s not at Vale Park so it’s nothing to do with us.

The examples are almost endless. Yet you feel you are in any position to have a go at any other L2 club??? Jokes lol

If our players are assaulted why wouldn’t we question that? Or the failure to ensure their safety? (Indeed one employee of Crewe Alexandra there to ensure the safety of players and fans was involved in one incident)

We’ve never hid from our problems all be it we are stretching back incidents nearly a decade old with Exodus (incident in which Vale fans footage was used to find the person responsible).

There’s always been one set of fans quick to slate ours though... Yet now they are clearly suffering from some issues of their own trouble they seem keen to play it down.

We’ve worked on issues at Vale Park but as a club other than try and assist in helping other clubs investigate the football club itself is limited away from home, although it’s not that common away from home either in recent years aside from Grimsby a few weeks back.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

You actually think people have to go back nearly a decade to find Vale fans misbehaving?

Try Crewe game, Grimsby game just this season alone, and they are only the ones that made the national press lol

Which season hasn’t there been trouble attached to Vale? The knuckledraggers have been spotted and reported at many a ground/city. Take the blinkers off buddy.

It’s fine to question it ,obviously, but you can’t be high nor mighty and look down on anyone in this division when it comes to this subject .

And you can’t compare crewe with Vale when it comes to violence at football matches . That is pretty much chalk and cheese, as I suspect you already know

 

[Douglas_Valley_Reds]

And you can’t compare crewe with Vale when it comes to violence at football matches . That is pretty much chalk and cheese, as I suspect you already know

This. vale think they come to Crewe and bully us, they take over the town, they sit in all 4 stands etc etc which never happens but that is their mindset and what they think happens and they spout these same lines out every time we play them in Crewe. The moment our fans go a bit over the top they start screaming as if the match on Monday was the Millwall riot at Luton, Heysel & Hillsborough rolled into one. There was that much aggro that a massive 2 arrests were made.

 

[ValiantRob]

If a Vale fan attacked an opposition player I would condemn it -end of. Crewe is a club that is blind to problems within their own club.

 

[IanPVFC]

Some great whataboutery here.

How about this, all the above mentioned incidents are wrong and thorough and proper investigations should be carried out on all (if not done so previously)?

 

[valefan16]

You actually think people have to go back nearly a decade to find Vale fans misbehaving?

Try Crewe game, Grimsby game just this season alone, and they are only the ones that made the national press lol

Which season hasn’t there been trouble attached to Vale? The knuckledraggers have been spotted and reported at many a ground/city. Take the blinkers off buddy.

It’s fine to question it ,obviously, but you can’t be high nor mighty and look down on anyone in this division when it comes to this subject .

And you can’t compare crewe with Vale when it comes to violence at football matches . That is pretty much chalk and cheese, as I suspect you already know

So basically because we have had a few incidents then attacking our players is ok and we cant question it or report it?

Each incident we are involved in is disappointing and the 99.9% of Vale fans rightly condemn it. Although I think your over exaggerating just how many issues we have.

 

[GTFCfish]

After watching footage of this incident the Russian hooligans intent on fighting the English at the World Cup are now shitting themselves and having second thoughts about it.

 

[TimeyWimey]

RIP Hornby.

Wet lettuces.

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

So basically because we have had a few incidents then attacking our players is ok and we cant question it or report it?

Each incident we are involved in is disappointing and the 99.9% of Vale fans rightly condemn it. Although I think your over exaggerating just how many issues we have.

This post perfectly sums up the laissez-faire attitude of your club and fans.

It’s not an exaggeration at all, how you can suggest it’s only a “few incidents” (its every single season without fail and that’s just te reported ones ) and “99.9% rightly condemn it” is beyond me. If that was the case there would only be the same 2 Vale fans involved.
The only line you missed out is the classic “every club has them” , “we are no worse than others” that would of almost been the full set. Lol. You are significantly worse and have some regular scum in your supporter ranks. If you search hard enough you will find trouble for almost everyone but some have a far darker record for this sort of thing than others.

There are other clubs who are similarly bad with football related violence and clubs doing next to nowt about it for years (Grimsby a prime example, thanks fish) and who also need to get their own (glass) house in order before throwing stones at others. That was and still is my valid point.

Basically don’t throw stones..... punches or seats.

 

[gijsbert_bos]

Look, Vale and Crewe fans, you've already messed up your match thread and caused it to be locked. Can you please not fuck this one up too?

 

[beltzaetazuria]

I was puzzled by those kids in the Crewe end giving it the Mr. Big. Still I suppose that's the 'Crewe way' .........feeling cocky

 

[Richard Cranium]

Funny that you’ve got a Notts County fan critising fans for vandalising another teams stadium.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

As I'm now bored of the over-analysis of the trench warfare that occurred at the Battle of Gresty Road on Monday, we now move on to an away trip to Mansfield.

I can never, ever, ever hate Mansfield Town Football Club for their wonderfully good deed last season which saw this football club liberated of a truly inept manager about 3 years too late and you will always be appreciated by the Crewe die-hards for this. I expect us to not gift you the 3 points anywhere near as easily as we did last season and look forward to a decent game on Saturday.

 

[Agombar stool]

Swindon v Carlisle on Saturday. Curle and Brown, something both associated with faeces and with that in mind, I think the match is likely to be tur(d)gid.

0-0.

 

[AdamStag]

As I'm now bored of the over-analysis of the trench warfare that occurred at the Battle of Gresty Road on Monday, we now move on to an away trip to Mansfield.

I can never, ever, ever hate Mansfield Town Football Club for their wonderfully good deed last season which saw this football club liberated of a truly inept manager about 3 years too late and you will always be appreciated by the Crewe die-hards for this. I expect us to not gift you the 3 points anywhere near as easily as we did last season and look forward to a decent game on Saturday.

Artell is a former player from circa 2005 and was well regarded by our fans, was frozen out by that tactical master known as carlton Palmer.

Whereas were well aware you're a more than competent side, many fans are demanding a win against you given the Easter weekend against Accrington and Luton, with respect you're seen as an "easier" game. If I were artell I'd set out to frustrate us, there's a chance our fans may really turn on them tomorrow if we go behind

 

[Buxton Vale]

Various steps........ do you mean things like not employing Hasselbaink?

Which was a good decision given his recent record.

 

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Artell is a former player from circa 2005 and was well regarded by our fans, was frozen out by that tactical master known as carlton Palmer.

Whereas were well aware you're a more than competent side, many fans are demanding a win against you given the Easter weekend against Accrington and Luton, with respect you're seen as an "easier" game. If I were artell I'd set out to frustrate us, there's a chance our fans may really turn on them tomorrow if we go behind

I've always noticed as a player and manager that Artell is very much a marmite character with his ex clubs. He used to get a lot of shit from Shrewsbury fans for instance and from Vale but he's well liked at Morecambe, Rotherham and, as you've enlightened me, Mansfield as well.

I can see our gameplan being very similar to the one at Lincoln in February and Newport last month which will be 4-4-2, deep defensive line, high pressing and counter attacking at every available opportunity. It works well against teams who are good and have a bit of nous, but doesn't work against sides in a relegation scrap who are shit scared of conceding themselves that they too, are tight at the back.

Our games against Flitcroft are often very interesting and full of goals, the sad thing is, Flitcroft sides tend to put at least 3 past us...

 

[Baratheon]

We are almost certain to create plenty of chances against Crewe, it's converting them that is our long-term issue. Unfortunately I just can't see this happening with our current strike force. It will probably finish 1-1 like many other of our recent games. We just cannot hold on to a lead.

 

[Dave-Vale]

Most clubs have a dickhead element who only turn up to games where they know there is going to be trouble. I don’t condone it because fighting over a football team is the height of ridiculousness and the vast majority of Vale fans don’t condone it either.

The way the Crewe fans and this weird Vale obsessed Notts County fan are going on they’re making it sound like we’ve got adverts up at the ground advertising “Hooligans Wanted”.