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Not a bad day for us with Macc, Cambridge and Vale losing, and Morecambe drawing. Gap looks huge now tho!
Yes, you can pick one out of those four to go down with you. Any preferences?Not a bad day for us with Macc, Cambridge and Vale losing, and Morecambe drawing. Gap looks huge now tho!
Not a bad day for us with Macc, Cambridge and Vale losing, and Morecambe drawing. Gap looks huge now tho!
I'd say a pretty bad day for us, we needed Macc to at least hold Chelt. With the score today the wins needed needs to be 4 just to get out, double what we have now. Lincoln and failed in consecutive weeks. Fantastic!
Well we’re at home to Macclesfield next week, so if we beat them for you and you get something from Lincoln then we’re all good.
If you were down for "helping" you'd have beat Yeovi!
Depending on whether you’re a glass half empty or half full person, you could say for Notts the gap’s got bigger or it’s potentially smaller thanks to most of their rivals dropping points, as long they can win their game in hand. What match were they scheduled to play today?
The big thing today is Macc blowing that lead ....Newport. In a sense the gap is irrelevant apart from for psychological purposes - it doesn’t change the fact we need to win probably 8 out of our last 17 to get to 45/46 and have any chance of staying up.
The big thing today is Macc blowing that lead ....
Yes, you can pick one out of those four to go down with you. Any preferences?
I genuinely hope you stay up, decent club, TVM is a cock thoughI fancy us to have more chance (if any) of overhauling them than Cheltenham, so was pleased with the result.
Cameron will also be a big miss for them for the next 2/3 games after his red.
Just the small matter of Lincoln, FGR and Mansfield for us in the next three...
Back by popular(no) demand, here's the real League Two table, focusing on the relegation threatened teams. Makes sense to do it now with only 15 games left to go.
As ever, we'll only be using the bottom 8 for this thread, regardless of games in hand or other variables.
72 - Guaranteed Safety 2019
51 - Safety 2013
50 - Safety 2014
49 -
48 -
47 - Safety 2017
46 - Safety 2018
45 -
44 -
43 -
42 - Safety 2015 Predicted Safety 18-19
41 -
40 -
39 -
38 -
37 -
36 -
35 - Safety 2016
34 - Northampton(29)
33 -
32 - Cheltenham(29), Port Vale(29), Cambridge(30)
31 -
30 - Yeovil(28)
29 - Morecambe(30)
28 -
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27 - Macclesfield(30)
26 -
25 -
24 -
23 -
22 -
21 - Notts County(29)
A few explanations for those unfamiliar with a few things. The safety amounts for each year are what you would have needed to stay up. So if a team went down on 34 points, by definition, 35 points was the safety line, regardless of whether the team in 22nd actually managed more than that.
The expected safety line calculates the current points per game pace of each team and plots that over the rest of the season. It shows what the team in 23rd is likely to finish on, roughly, and plots what the team in 22nd will need. It doesn't take into account any trends or form etc. The guaranteed safety line is the points needed for mathematical survival. Obviously that will start to drop in the next few weeks.
Forthcoming fixtures:
17th - Northampton(29) - 34 points. Colchester(H), Tranmere(A), Lincoln(A), Crawley(H), Stevenage(A)
18th - Cheltenham(29) - 32 points. Cambridge(H), Yeovil(H), Colchester(A), Grimsby(A), Port Vale(H)
19th - Port Vale(29) - 32 points. Newport(A), Tranmere(H), Cambridge(A), Morecambe(H), Cheltenham(A)
20th - Cambridge(30) - 32 points. Cheltenham(A), Port Vale(H), Tranmere(H), Yeovil(A), Grimsby(A)
21st - Yeovil(28) - 30 points. Stevenage(A), Cheltenham(A), Grimsby(H), Oldham(A), Forest Green(A)
22nd Morecambe(30) - 29 points. Oldham(A), Bury(H), Port Vale(A), Lincoln(H), Yeovil(A)
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23rd Macclesfield(30) - 27 points. Mansfield(A), Crewe(H), Colchester(H), Crawley(A), Bury(A)
24th Notts County(29) - 21 points. Lincoln(H), Forest Green(A), Mansfield(H), Newport(H), Tranmere(A)
Those in green are the current top 10, those arguably in the promotion race. Those in red are of course those in the bottom 8 and in the relegation battle. Everyone else is mid-table mediocrity. And here we go. Welcome to our returning players in Morecambe, Yeovil, Port Vale and Cheltenham. Greetings to our new contestants as well.
We'll start at the bottom with Notts County. Boy do things look grim for them. 8 points adrift and their next few weeks look brutal. 4 promotion chasers and a tricky Newport team. Oof. A poor return from that lot could see them left with too much to do, Ardley doesn't seem to have had much of an impact and with the window closing soon, things look really bleak. Still, 3 of their next 4 at home, 1 win out of nowhere could spark an improvement.
Macc's momentum took a big hit yesterday, can't be going to a fellow relegation battler and blowing a 2-0 lead. The next few weeks look tough, could be relying heavily on their home form given their away fixtures.
Morecambe are well into their 'draw your way to safety' strategy. Will it continue to work for them or have they dodged one too many bullets and this year will finally catch them out? A tricky few weeks for them, wouldn't be surprised to see them sat in the bottom 2 shortly.
Yeovil showed signs of life with wins over Mansfield and Notts County before an expected defeat against Lincoln. Tough run on the road coming up, but then their away form has been pretty good to them, so maybe some points to be had. Still, as long as Way is in charge, their is hope for the other relegation candidates.
The worry for Port Vale is their lack of goals sans the increasingly injured Pope. Their home form has also dropped off a cliff as well. Aspin is clinging to his job, but for how much longer? And who is coming in to save them at this stage if he does go? They might have to rely on their away form, quite the turnaround from last season when they couldn't win on the road to save their lives.
Cheltenham got a massive win against Macc and have some favourable home fixtures coming up which they'll need points from. They look to have enough life in them, especially with the goals of Luke Varney.
Northampton are a long shot to actually go down, but they can't seem to pull away either. Blown a lot of games by letting winning positions slip, 19 by my count. Bad habit to be in, but then they aren't losing very much. They'll probably be fine, but could still get sucked into it if they aren't careful.
Notts County and one of Morecambe or Port Vale are my current bets for the drop.
We certainly wouldVale? At least you’d probably still bring a few to ML in the National League..
Double like for allowing us to quietly creep under the radar.Back by popular(no) demand, here's the real League Two table, focusing on the relegation threatened teams. Makes sense to do it now with only 15 games left to go.
As ever, we'll only be using the bottom 8 for this thread, regardless of games in hand or other variables.
72 - Guaranteed Safety 2019
51 - Safety 2013
50 - Safety 2014
49 -
48 -
47 - Safety 2017
46 - Safety 2018
45 -
44 -
43 -
42 - Safety 2015 Predicted Safety 18-19
41 -
40 -
39 -
38 -
37 -
36 -
35 - Safety 2016
34 - Northampton(29)
33 -
32 - Cheltenham(29), Port Vale(29), Cambridge(30)
31 -
30 - Yeovil(28)
29 - Morecambe(30)
28 -
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27 - Macclesfield(30)
26 -
25 -
24 -
23 -
22 -
21 - Notts County(29)
A few explanations for those unfamiliar with a few things. The safety amounts for each year are what you would have needed to stay up. So if a team went down on 34 points, by definition, 35 points was the safety line, regardless of whether the team in 22nd actually managed more than that.
The expected safety line calculates the current points per game pace of each team and plots that over the rest of the season. It shows what the team in 23rd is likely to finish on, roughly, and plots what the team in 22nd will need. It doesn't take into account any trends or form etc. The guaranteed safety line is the points needed for mathematical survival. Obviously that will start to drop in the next few weeks.
Forthcoming fixtures:
17th - Northampton(29) - 34 points. Colchester(H), Tranmere(A), Lincoln(A), Crawley(H), Stevenage(A)
18th - Cheltenham(29) - 32 points. Cambridge(H), Yeovil(H), Colchester(A), Grimsby(A), Port Vale(H)
19th - Port Vale(29) - 32 points. Newport(A), Tranmere(H), Cambridge(A), Morecambe(H), Cheltenham(A)
20th - Cambridge(30) - 32 points. Cheltenham(A), Port Vale(H), Tranmere(H), Yeovil(A), Grimsby(A)
21st - Yeovil(28) - 30 points. Stevenage(A), Cheltenham(A), Grimsby(H), Oldham(A), Forest Green(A)
22nd Morecambe(30) - 29 points. Oldham(A), Bury(H), Port Vale(A), Lincoln(H), Yeovil(A)
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23rd Macclesfield(30) - 27 points. Mansfield(A), Crewe(H), Colchester(H), Crawley(A), Bury(A)
24th Notts County(29) - 21 points. Lincoln(H), Forest Green(A), Mansfield(H), Newport(H), Tranmere(A)
Those in green are the current top 10, those arguably in the promotion race. Those in red are of course those in the bottom 8 and in the relegation battle. Everyone else is mid-table mediocrity. And here we go. Welcome to our returning players in Morecambe, Yeovil, Port Vale and Cheltenham. Greetings to our new contestants as well.
We'll start at the bottom with Notts County. Boy do things look grim for them. 8 points adrift and their next few weeks look brutal. 4 promotion chasers and a tricky Newport team. Oof. A poor return from that lot could see them left with too much to do, Ardley doesn't seem to have had much of an impact and with the window closing soon, things look really bleak. Still, 3 of their next 4 at home, 1 win out of nowhere could spark an improvement.
Macc's momentum took a big hit yesterday, can't be going to a fellow relegation battler and blowing a 2-0 lead. The next few weeks look tough, could be relying heavily on their home form given their away fixtures.
Morecambe are well into their 'draw your way to safety' strategy. Will it continue to work for them or have they dodged one too many bullets and this year will finally catch them out? A tricky few weeks for them, wouldn't be surprised to see them sat in the bottom 2 shortly.
Yeovil showed signs of life with wins over Mansfield and Notts County before an expected defeat against Lincoln. Tough run on the road coming up, but then their away form has been pretty good to them, so maybe some points to be had. Still, as long as Way is in charge, their is hope for the other relegation candidates.
The worry for Port Vale is their lack of goals sans the increasingly injured Pope. Their home form has also dropped off a cliff as well. Aspin is clinging to his job, but for how much longer? And who is coming in to save them at this stage if he does go? They might have to rely on their away form, quite the turnaround from last season when they couldn't win on the road to save their lives.
Cheltenham got a massive win against Macc and have some favourable home fixtures coming up which they'll need points from. They look to have enough life in them, especially with the goals of Luke Varney.
Northampton are a long shot to actually go down, but they can't seem to pull away either. Blown a lot of games by letting winning positions slip, 19 by my count. Bad habit to be in, but then they aren't losing very much. They'll probably be fine, but could still get sucked into it if they aren't careful.
Notts County and one of Morecambe or Port Vale are my current bets for the drop.
Feels strange not to be on the list JJ but I see you have included us in red for a couple of the games so maybe you are just keeping us in the mixBack by popular(no) demand, here's the real League Two table, focusing on the relegation threatened teams. Makes sense to do it now with only 15 games left to go.
As ever, we'll only be using the bottom 8 for this thread, regardless of games in hand or other variables.
72 - Guaranteed Safety 2019
51 - Safety 2013
50 - Safety 2014
49 -
48 -
47 - Safety 2017
46 - Safety 2018
45 -
44 -
43 -
42 - Safety 2015 Predicted Safety 18-19
41 -
40 -
39 -
38 -
37 -
36 -
35 - Safety 2016
34 - Northampton(29)
33 -
32 - Cheltenham(29), Port Vale(29), Cambridge(30)
31 -
30 - Yeovil(28)
29 - Morecambe(30)
28 -
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27 - Macclesfield(30)
26 -
25 -
24 -
23 -
22 -
21 - Notts County(29)
A few explanations for those unfamiliar with a few things. The safety amounts for each year are what you would have needed to stay up. So if a team went down on 34 points, by definition, 35 points was the safety line, regardless of whether the team in 22nd actually managed more than that.
The expected safety line calculates the current points per game pace of each team and plots that over the rest of the season. It shows what the team in 23rd is likely to finish on, roughly, and plots what the team in 22nd will need. It doesn't take into account any trends or form etc. The guaranteed safety line is the points needed for mathematical survival. Obviously that will start to drop in the next few weeks.
Forthcoming fixtures:
17th - Northampton(29) - 34 points. Colchester(H), Tranmere(A), Lincoln(A), Crawley(H), Stevenage(A)
18th - Cheltenham(29) - 32 points. Cambridge(H), Yeovil(H), Colchester(A), Grimsby(A), Port Vale(H)
19th - Port Vale(29) - 32 points. Newport(A), Tranmere(H), Cambridge(A), Morecambe(H), Cheltenham(A)
20th - Cambridge(30) - 32 points. Cheltenham(A), Port Vale(H), Tranmere(H), Yeovil(A), Grimsby(A)
21st - Yeovil(28) - 30 points. Stevenage(A), Cheltenham(A), Grimsby(H), Oldham(A), Forest Green(A)
22nd Morecambe(30) - 29 points. Oldham(A), Bury(H), Port Vale(A), Lincoln(H), Yeovil(A)
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23rd Macclesfield(30) - 27 points. Mansfield(A), Crewe(H), Colchester(H), Crawley(A), Bury(A)
24th Notts County(29) - 21 points. Lincoln(H), Forest Green(A), Mansfield(H), Newport(H), Tranmere(A)
Those in green are the current top 10, those arguably in the promotion race. Those in red are of course those in the bottom 8 and in the relegation battle. Everyone else is mid-table mediocrity. And here we go. Welcome to our returning players in Morecambe, Yeovil, Port Vale and Cheltenham. Greetings to our new contestants as well.
We'll start at the bottom with Notts County. Boy do things look grim for them. 8 points adrift and their next few weeks look brutal. 4 promotion chasers and a tricky Newport team. Oof. A poor return from that lot could see them left with too much to do, Ardley doesn't seem to have had much of an impact and with the window closing soon, things look really bleak. Still, 3 of their next 4 at home, 1 win out of nowhere could spark an improvement.
Macc's momentum took a big hit yesterday, can't be going to a fellow relegation battler and blowing a 2-0 lead. The next few weeks look tough, could be relying heavily on their home form given their away fixtures.
Morecambe are well into their 'draw your way to safety' strategy. Will it continue to work for them or have they dodged one too many bullets and this year will finally catch them out? A tricky few weeks for them, wouldn't be surprised to see them sat in the bottom 2 shortly.
Yeovil showed signs of life with wins over Mansfield and Notts County before an expected defeat against Lincoln. Tough run on the road coming up, but then their away form has been pretty good to them, so maybe some points to be had. Still, as long as Way is in charge, their is hope for the other relegation candidates.
The worry for Port Vale is their lack of goals sans the increasingly injured Pope. Their home form has also dropped off a cliff as well. Aspin is clinging to his job, but for how much longer? And who is coming in to save them at this stage if he does go? They might have to rely on their away form, quite the turnaround from last season when they couldn't win on the road to save their lives.
Cheltenham got a massive win against Macc and have some favourable home fixtures coming up which they'll need points from. They look to have enough life in them, especially with the goals of Luke Varney.
Northampton are a long shot to actually go down, but they can't seem to pull away either. Blown a lot of games by letting winning positions slip, 19 by my count. Bad habit to be in, but then they aren't losing very much. They'll probably be fine, but could still get sucked into it if they aren't careful.
Notts County and one of Morecambe or Port Vale are my current bets for the drop.
I’m looking for one away win out of Cheltenham, Yeovil Andy Grimsby. Plus beating Port Vale is a must. As you say, seven points from the five games would be solid and would keep us out the way of the bottom two. You’re right about our strike force being poor so we’ll need some clean sheets this month.Double like for allowing us to quietly creep under the radar.
Crucial sequence of games coming up for us now we've got the traditional defeat to Exeter out of the way. They were always going to be hard going but, if our management think that it'll be enough to supplement an ageing and injury prone Jabo and fast but no end product Azeez (hamstring gone again?) with loans of a young Villa live wire and a fragile very injury prone goal poacher, I can see trouble ahead.
7 points from the 5 games would be par but would require more goals than we're capable of if Jabo or an equivalent lead the line striker can't start in most of them.
Oh I doubt it will be, it's just based on what Macc are currently averaging in terms of points per game and what they'd finish on come the end of the season if they maintain that pace.Thanks for that JJ.
I’d be surprised if 42 was enough, but you never know.
Haha, probably out of habit from last year. Surprised I didn't put the Alex in here by mistake as well.Feels strange not to be on the list JJ but I see you have included us in red for a couple of the games so maybe you are just keeping us in the mix
I genuinely hope you stay up, decent club, TVM is a cock though
Newport. In a sense the gap is irrelevant apart from for psychological purposes - it doesn’t change the fact we need to win probably 8 out of our last 17 to get to 45/46 and have any chance of staying up.
Where are all the Macclesfield fans? What do they think about their prospects. Looking at Macc's upcoming fixtures that defeat yesterday looks more damaging than I first thought. I sincerely hope that Durrell's impending return will lift them.
Well, besides going down miserably we've now got our ridiculous chairman posting a picture of his knob on the internet.
You have to hand it to us, when it goes wrong we do it in spectacular fashion.
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