League 2 Relegation Thread 2018/2019

[Habbinalan]

As it stands I think both us and Macc will do well to get to 40.. we'll likely need a point more than two other teams as well due to our GD.

Should you (and especially Macc) catch us on points, GD should take care of itself.

More of an issue if it's Crawley, Yeovil or Vale that you have your sights on.

 

[Railway Blue]

As it stands I think both us and Macc will do well to get to 40.. we'll likely need a point more than two other teams as well due to our GD.

If Notts County and Macclesfield go down as seems likely it will strengthen the argument to rebrand the Conference Premier League as the English Football League Division 3. With the amount of money awash in the English League it has to come.

 

[AdamStag]

Mansfield at home on Saturday, would take a point right now if offered, a win would obviously be huge for us. Leagues worst attack against the best defence doesn’t really fill me with great hope but one thing I will say is at least we are threatening teams a bit now.

Should be 1500-2000 of us there.

We’ve hopefully turned a corner again, but if we lost at notts we can lose anywhere, so depends what team turns up.

 

[AdamStag]

If Notts County and Macclesfield go down as seems likely it will strengthen the argument to rebrand the Conference Premier League as the English Football League Division 3. With the amount of money awash in the English League it has to come.

Can’t see it, though I am in favour of a 3 up 3 down system, given that 4 go up from our division...

 

[Devon_Lad]

Still think Notts will survive.

Then again, I thought the same about Chesterfield....

 

[Railway Blue]

Can’t see it, though I am in favour of a 3 up 3 down system, given that 4 go up from our division...

My point was that the Conference will be full of decent-sized ex-football league clubs and hobby/wealthy clubs with minimal traditional non-league clubs. Three up would be good though.

 

[Luke Imp]

If Notts County and Macclesfield go down as seems likely it will strengthen the argument to rebrand the Conference Premier League as the English Football League Division 3. With the amount of money awash in the English League it has to come.

I don't think it would. There were more, bigger teams in the NL a few years back compared to now.

Wrexham and Orient could be coming up, and those two, along with Chesterfield, are the only bigger sides in the Conference Prem.

 

[AdamStag]

I don't think it would. There were more, bigger teams in the NL a few years back compared to now.

Wrexham and Orient could be coming up, and those two, along with Chesterfield, are the only bigger sides in the Conference Prem.

Look at Luton, the biggest club to be in the conference - which would still be the case next season - spent 5 seasons down there.

As they found out, nobody cares about how big you are or what you’ve done in the conference, if anything it makes it harder.

chesterfield look like they’re having a belting time down there

 

[The_Viking_Magpie]

The Conference should welcome with open arms clubs like Notts County or Port Vale for example. Just like the Luton’s , Oxford , and Grimsby before us

 

[Buxton Vale]

If Notts County and Macclesfield go down as seems likely it will strengthen the argument to rebrand the Conference Premier League as the English Football League Division 3. With the amount of money awash in the English League it has to come.

Disagree. There are some really small clubs down there, and even if Vale and Notts went it wouldn't merit being league3. I expect they will do it at some point though as more tinpotters are overfunded into league 2.

 

[Gladders]

My point was that the Conference will be full of decent-sized ex-football league clubs and hobby/wealthy clubs with minimal traditional non-league clubs. Three up would be good though.

No different to several years ago with the likes of Luton, Grimsby, Stockport, Lincoln, Mansfield, Bristol Rovers etc were all down there.

It's not going to happen anyhow no matter how much it would be right too. No league club is going to vote for a 3rd relegation spot out of the league.

 

[Blue Lion]

The quality is so inferior in the Conference that it doesn't deserve to be associated with the FL. There may be big clubs down there but the football itself is a really low standard, hence why we find ourselves in this division today. 2 up 2 down is enough personally.

 

[Railway Blue]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

 

[Vanni]

Even though we're down at the bottom and definitely still in it, I still maintain 3 up 3 down is the way to go. It's so unfair that the runners up in the Connie only go into the play offs, and it's also unfair that the main target of a good 4-6 L2 clubs is only to avoid finishing 23rd and 24th and nothing else. They are at it year after year, and it's getting tiresome now.

I think the quality of the connie isn't the same as it was only 3 or 4 years ago, but the top 5 aren't that far off from being a L2 club. Granted, Macc are struggling this year and and so did FGR last year but generally the promoted clubs tend to do well.

3 relegation spots may seem too much but otoh there'll be two automatic promotion spots up for grabs hence more chance for those clubs relegated from the FL to come up in only a few years time.

 

[Gandalf the Grey]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

Like the old 3rd Division North and South?

 

[Devon_Lad]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

Absolutely not.

 

[Gladders]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

No

 

[Buxton Vale]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

its a no from me

 

[Tranmerewhite]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

You're not going up so it wouldnt benefit you anyway.

 

[GTFCfish]

The Conference should welcome with open arms clubs like Notts County or Port Vale for example. Just like the Luton’s , Oxford , and Grimsby before us

They will indeed welcome you with open arms, and then just like with us they will love having you there so much that they will do everything in their power to keep you.
By reffing you out of 2 successive play offs.
Bastards.

 

[Tranmerewhite]

They will indeed welcome you with open arms, and then just like with us they will love having you there so much that they will do everything in their power to keep you.
By reffing you out of 2 successive play offs.
Bastards.

They reffed us into literally half our squad being injured. Outrageous.

 

[AdamStag]

Anyway, if this league were split half of us would miss out on Exeter’s title charge

 

[Optipez]

What about amalgamating L2 and Conference and splitting them along north and south lines and calling them L2N & LNS?

I've thought this for a long time. The cost for clubs of long journeys, overnight stays and the lack of away fans further shrinking revenue makes it a very sensible thing to do.
The only argument i can really think of against it is that you may end up with a significant difference in standards between North and south.

 

[Tranmerewhite]

I've thought this for a long time. The cost for clubs of long journeys, overnight stays and the lack of away fans further shrinking revenue makes it a very sensible thing to do.
The only argument i can really think of against it is that you may end up with a significant difference in standards between North and south.

Any subsequent split like that would have to make it 4 promotions from north and none from south.

 

[markpvfc]

I'd imagine we'll get a league 3 only when the Premier League B teams arrive.

 

[Devon_Lad]

I've thought this for a long time. The cost for clubs of long journeys, overnight stays and the lack of away fans further shrinking revenue makes it a very sensible thing to do.
The only argument i can really think of against it is that you may end up with a significant difference in standards between North and south.

I enjoy my northern away matches, more so than any southern match (Bar London games)

And can you really beat Exeter > Carlisle on a Tuesday night*?

*to lose 4-1 and to see your side get relegated? Because that was something special. (Albeit, it was a L1 fixture)

 

[Luke Imp]

I've thought this for a long time. The cost for clubs of long journeys, overnight stays and the lack of away fans further shrinking revenue makes it a very sensible thing to do.
The only argument i can really think of against it is that you may end up with a significant difference in standards between North and south.

That's a noticeable difference with promoted sides in the NL and something discussed a year or so back.

Generally speaking, the North is a more difficult league and Clubs have the money yet the South Clubs seemed to perform better. Can't find the thread on it.

 

[jacobncfc]

On the amalgamating League Two and the Conference thing, I’d like to see it happen but for them to rationalise the Football League into four divisions of twenty teams with balanced promotion and relegation from each.

There’s basically no other professional league in the world with as many as 24 teams in, and that has to contribute to so many games becoming scrappy with teams tiring, and lower attendances due to the sheer number of games.

It would of course need clubs to cut their cloth a bit more on wages with fewer home games bringing in revenue, but would that really be a bad thing?

I would then advocate the top tier of non-league football being split into north and south with the winner of each being promoted and two relegated. Could arguably have a third through a play-off.

 

[Devon_Lad]

There’s basically no other professional league in the world with as many as 24 teams in, and that has to contribute to so many games becoming scrappy with teams tiring

If a professional footballer can't play 90 minutes of football on a Saturday, Tuesday and then the following Saturday every now and again he should be sacked as he's clearly not capable of being a footballer.

 

[AdamStag]

On the amalgamating League Two and the Conference thing, I’d like to see it happen but for them to rationalise the Football League into four divisions of twenty teams with balanced promotion and relegation from each.

There’s basically no other professional league in the world with as many as 24 teams in, and that has to contribute to so many games becoming scrappy with teams tiring, and lower attendances due to the sheer number of games.

It would of course need clubs to cut their cloth a bit more on wages with fewer home games bringing in revenue, but would that really be a bad thing?

I would then advocate the top tier of non-league football being split into north and south with the winner of each being promoted and two relegated. Could arguably have a third through a play-off.

Agreed but it’s like turkeys voting for Christmas, it’s a necessary evil. You hear chairman across the land saying they need more income (of course they would) 4 fewer games and income would cause lower wages, players going elsewhere and lower quality anyway.

Agreed though, there’s nowhere that has 24 teams in a league, in the German regional leagues there are 20 in each 1 with only 1 side going up automatically and that’s it, can’t do much good for excitement for those leagues for instance.