League 2 Relegation Thread 2018/2019

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We've been as bad as you all say, just can't argue with the table....but yesterday we looked a different side, far better than the team that beat Macc away, Crawley and the like and lost to everyone else.
Maybe by luck but Kellet who's been ignored by all the managers looked very good and Bird a nineteen year old looked a revelation in defence as did Krystian Dennis at last playing with some support up front.
Could be a flash in the pan or hopefully the beginning of a revival, either way it's at least put some hope into the fans.
 

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I still can’t help thinking that Notts will somehow manage to stay up.

Although I thought the same about Chesterfield last season all the way into Feb/March so maybe not.
We thought the same a few years back and we flirted with mid table for a while around January time.
 

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Not just those games, but Cambridge don't appear to have been 22nd placed bad all season. Only the two viewing for our local media but I can't recall Cambridge fans coming on here too many times being completely despondent.

That's just it Luke, though the Viking does have a point about fans making up their mind on another fellow league side after only watching them play against the club they follow only twice a year. We have already played you lot home and away this season, and tbh, I've watched better and stronger sides, but the fact remains that you are top of the league for a reason.

Having said that, you're right. AFAIC, it was only the two times when I felt totally depressed post match, and that was after the 2-0 defeat at Crewe, and that 3-0 humiliation up at Morecambe. I'm talking league games only, as that 4-3 defeat away at Guiseley was another embarrassing afternoon, but I'm sticking with league games.

One thing that definitely gives me hope is that I feel we've been terribly unlucky in quite a few games, and by luck I don't mean all those gift wrapped goals that we have handed out to just about everybody, as that's not bad luck but stupidity/naivety. To this day, it was just the one game that I felt that we shouldn't have won, while I can think of at least 5 games that we shouldn't have lost or drawn.

But I'm told these things generally even up by the end of the season, so there's still hope I guess! A good start would be the upcoming match at MK ;)
 

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We thought the same a few years back and we flirted with mid table for a while around January time.

Yep, most of us on here thought you lot would be safe, and then we said the same thing when it was Chesterfield's turn to struggle. Therein lies the mistake of only looking at one's squad 'on paper' so to speak, instead of looking at the evidence that lies before you on match days.

But at least in Tranmere's case, relegation wasn't that big a setback as it was for others, as you lot do look to be on the up.
 

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The frustrating thing about our relegation season is if Adams has been given less resources for the squad we’d have probably stayed up. He steadied things initially with astute loan signings bolstering a weak squad, but later it became a revolving door. While we are heading in the right direction, the Palioi’s plans seem to have been based on a FL team so the 3 years in NL set us back. Some of the off-field money raising schemes haven’t delivered (yet).
 

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When folk side their side is too good to go down, or looks good on paper then it’s head in the sand time, on that basis our side was more than good enough when it went down, didn’t do us any good.

Like chesterfield with players like Dennis last year - average league 2 player sure, but does he have the fight? Didn’t appear so, doesn’t appear so this season. I’d take someone who wasn’t as technically gifted for a grafter when down at the bottom any day.
 

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Yep, most of us on here thought you lot would be safe, and then we said the same thing when it was Chesterfield's turn to struggle. Therein lies the mistake of only looking at one's squad 'on paper' so to speak, instead of looking at the evidence that lies before you on match days.

But at least in Tranmere's case, relegation wasn't that big a setback as it was for others, as you lot do look to be on the up.
We were better before Micky Adams was allowed to bring in about 10 players in the January. That sent us down and I think Mark Palios learned from it..

Non league was a disaster though. If we’d spent those 3 years in league 2 instead we’d be about £6m better off. That is probably why clubs like ourselves panic buy though.
 

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When folk side their side is too good to go down, or looks good on paper then it’s head in the sand time, on that basis our side was more than good enough when it went down, didn’t do us any good.

Like chesterfield with players like Dennis last year - average league 2 player sure, but does he have the fight? Didn’t appear so, doesn’t appear so this season. I’d take someone who wasn’t as technically gifted for a grafter when down at the bottom any day.

To be fair to Dennis he got injured in pre-season and has never really had a run in the side because Stead and Hemmings have performed relatively well together, his starts have mostly been up front on his own under Kewell which isn’t really his game. The few times he’s had a partner he’s looked like the striker we thought we had signed, including Saturday when he was only denied a smart finish by an excellent save.

(For the avoidance of any doubt to anyone btw, no Notts fan thinks we are ‘too good to go down’ or anything like that, after Macc most had us relegated already, the Bury performance offered some hope but will doubtless be followed up with another 4-0 tomorrow at Oldham).
 

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I was very impressed with Notts County on Saturday, they were the better side in an entertaining game of football. I was speaking to some of your fans in the Trent Navigation Pub and whilst I was pointing to signing a couple of players in January several of your fans quickly pointed to the size of your squad already. Sounds like you need to get a few off the wage bill.
 

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If Notts go down then they're gonna have to change their slogan from "
The World's Oldest Football League Club" to " The World's Third Oldest Non League Club".
 

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The transfer window is massively important to us this year. A bad one last January cost us promotion, a poor one this summer left us badly unbalanced get it wrong this month and I can't see us being consistent enough to get out of it.
 

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If Notts go down then they're gonna have to change their slogan from "
The World's Oldest Football League Club" to " The World's Third Oldest Non League Club".
They can still be the world's oldest professional club I think... unless things go seriously pear shaped
 

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Could it be the big squad that send Notts down? They need to get players off the wage bill before they can invest? Us on the other hand we need all the bodies we have and the board have confirmed there are funds available. We need strikers, desperately but who doesn't?

For what it's worth Yeovil are the worst side I've seen at the Abbey this season and i'll be amazed if they stay up. We could only draw 0-0 with them though as our bunch of clowns on the board didn't get Calderwood in for this game and I would have been confident of 3 points had he done.
 

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FWIW I don’t think we’ll have too much trouble shipping 5 or 6 out, few like Hawkridge to the NL and a few loans to return
 

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In the 2018 calendar year table we are 85th. The lowest of any current League Two side. 44 points from 46 games.

We are in free fall. Our manager hasn’t got a clue and he’s clearly fallen out with a few of the players. Our captain is falling out with fans on Twitter. We are going down. I said it last season and we just about scraped to safety but I can’t see the same this year even with a better squad.

Aspin needs to do the right thing and walk if we don’t win tomorrow.
 

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In the 2018 calendar year table we are 85th. The lowest of any current League Two side. 44 points from 46 games.

We are in free fall. Our manager hasn’t got a clue and he’s clearly fallen out with a few of the players. Our captain is falling out with fans on Twitter. We are going down. I said it last season and we just about scraped to safety but I can’t see the same this year even with a better squad.

Aspin needs to do the right thing and walk if when we don’t win tomorrow.

Corrected for you Dave
 

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When folk side their side is too good to go down, or looks good on paper then it’s head in the sand time.
We were the opposite of that, complete dog turd all season and most of us accepted relegation a few weeks before the end of the season and it was a complete miracle that we actually managed to take it to the last game at Burton still in with a chance, before losing 3-0 and then smashing their ground up. :ffs:
 

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Could it be the big squad that send Notts down? They need to get players off the wage bill before they can invest? Us on the other hand we need all the bodies we have and the board have confirmed there are funds available. We need strikers, desperately but who doesn't?

For what it's worth Yeovil are the worst side I've seen at the Abbey this season and i'll be amazed if they stay up. We could only draw 0-0 with them though as our bunch of clowns on the board didn't get Calderwood in for this game and I would have been confident of 3 points had he done.

It’s never just one reason . The size is clearly ridiculous in part due to changing manager and the desperate league position . What is the bigger concern is with all those numbers the balance just isn’t there ! Having so many in the squad does not make it easy for the Manager to manage the whole squad and improve or maintaining morale in the club .

I too can see a few available Notts players interesting plenty of other clubs
 

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To be fair to Dennis he got injured in pre-season and has never really had a run in the side because Stead and Hemmings have performed relatively well together, his starts have mostly been up front on his own under Kewell which isn’t really his game. The few times he’s had a partner he’s looked like the striker we thought we had signed, including Saturday when he was only denied a smart finish by an excellent save.

(For the avoidance of any doubt to anyone btw, no Notts fan thinks we are ‘too good to go down’ or anything like that, after Macc most had us relegated already, the Bury performance offered some hope but will doubtless be followed up with another 4-0 tomorrow at Oldham).

Literally heard no Notts fan say that, quite the opposite in fact.

If Dennis was an average L2 player last season he must of got very very lucky in a lot of matches lol
 

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In the 2018 calendar year table we are 85th. The lowest of any current League Two side. 44 points from 46 games.

We are in free fall. Our manager hasn’t got a clue and he’s clearly fallen out with a few of the players. Our captain is falling out with fans on Twitter. We are going down. I said it last season and we just about scraped to safety but I can’t see the same this year even with a better squad.

Aspin needs to do the right thing and walk if we don’t win tomorrow.

At least you already have some points on the board though, a little run of even 4 wins in the next 10 or 11 would put you within touching distance of safety. At the moment for us on 20 points another 25/26 feels a long way off. With goal difference we are still at least two games from getting out the drop zone.

Big game for us at Oldham today, hopefully we can build on a good performance v Bury last time out but another drubbing would feel like we are back to square one.
 

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Big game for us at home to Cheltenham today. We're got the 5th worst scoring record but 6th best defensive record in League 2 so probably another 0-0. One home win since February is awful so we really need to break that run.
 

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Another fruitless away day for us, but closer to safety than before KO thanks to Cambridge’s thrashing at MK, which has put them in one win range as opposed to two. Got to take what you can when you’re down the bottom!
 

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Good that Cambridge's goal difference took a battering today.
 

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hard to look past the bottom 2, Cambridge and Yeovil at the moment, although it can change. We are far from safe ourselves, but I still fancy Macc to survive as theyre picking up points here and there.
 

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