Stickied League 2 Transfer Rumours/Confirmed Transfers 2024/25

[GodsGift]

Jonny Margetts' loan deal at Crewe has been cancelled as he's already played for two clubs this season.

It's alarming how many clubs are falling foul of this rule. It's not hard, is it?

 

[Clarkey_GTFC]

Dean Henderson's been recalled by Manchester United due to an injury to one of their first team keepers.

Big loss for us, but a funny turn for McKeown who was saying he'll never play for us again and was a few grand away from a move to Shrewsbury. Good job that never happened!!

 

[Gladders]

Jonny Margetts' loan deal at Crewe has been cancelled as he's already played for two clubs this season.

It's alarming how many clubs are falling foul of this rule. It's not hard, is it?

The Gillingham statement said even the EFL didn't know the rule had changed to include the national league which is astounding, you could understand a club secretary missing it but not the league body itself.

 

[GEORGE]

For me it has to be three up three down . I never thought I would ever see my team inn Non league ( didn't ever expect them in Div 4 ) But going into the Conference was the biggest wake up call any football fan can ever have. We thought collectively as a fan base we were too big and too good for the Conference -- Well we wer'nt -- Still to this day I shudder at what happened back in May 2014.
We knew we had to make a quick return or i could see the club in liquidation. Also we were lucky to get back first time as we were clearly second best at Wembley on the day. But taking all this into consideration I wouldn't have swapped it at all -- We got our club back due to it.
And since then new owners have come into the club wherby a new training ground has been purchased A new 22 thousand capacity ground is on the horizon with new players acquired.
What I am saying is without dropping into the Conference I think we would still be hanging around the bottom of the Fourth flirting with relegation every season.

 

[George Reilly's Hairpiece]

Jonny Margetts' loan deal at Crewe has been cancelled as he's already played for two clubs this season.

It's alarming how many clubs are falling foul of this rule. It's not hard, is it?

I mentioned this in the league 1 transfers thread... Someone has pointed out on our board that Matt Tubbs has played for three National League teams, so if they count, how has that happened?

It looks on the surface that National League doesn't count, but then they must if Bondz can't play for Gillingham as he played for Eastleigh. Its overly complicated.

 

[Si Robin]

I mentioned this in the league 1 transfers thread... Someone has pointed out on our board that Matt Tubbs has played for three National League teams, so if they count, how has that happened?

It looks on the surface that National League doesn't count, but then they must if Bondz can't play for Gillingham as he played for Eastleigh. Its overly complicated.

Short-term loans do not count. If it's a long term loan (from window to window) then it does. We thought the same with Kyle Wootton as he has played for Scunthorpe (his parent club) and North Ferriby on loan, but that was only a 93 day loan so doesn't count.

That kinda proves my point of the NL hugely changing over the last 10 years because it was 2005(?) you got promoted? I bet it was nothing like it is now, back then.

To a point, the likes of Cheltenham and Barnet were lucky the bottle neck went because they were no-where near as good as the Fleetwood, Kiddy, Wrexham's of previous years (two of whom didn't even get promoted).

I'm confused by this, how were we lucky? We got promoted as Champions twice (the first time with 1 up-1 down) and had that still been in place we wouldn't have gone down in 2015.

 

[Habbinalan]

I mentioned this in the league 1 transfers thread... Someone has pointed out on our board that Matt Tubbs has played for three National League teams, so if they count, how has that happened?

It looks on the surface that National League doesn't count, but then they must if Bondz can't play for Gillingham as he played for Eastleigh. Its overly complicated.

I agree. That suggests that he wasn't eligible for Sutton's win against Wrexham and loss against Bromley. More important, Sutton shouldn't have got past the first round in the FA Cup ineligible for the 2nd round win against Cheltenham). Will their game with Arsenal go ahead? I suspect that it will but await developments with interest.

I assumed that EFL staff, club secs and everyone with a finger on the pulse of the game read this forum and particularly this thread on a regular basis. Perhaps not.........

The FIFA rule is:

"Players may be registered for a maximum of three clubs during the period from 1 July until 30 June of the following year. During this period, the player is only eligible to play in Official Matches for two clubs."

In relation to loans, FIFA are not happy but EFL and FA have put "Emergency Loans" outside these rules and there have been a number of players appearing for 3 or more clubs.

There's no problem with the 3 registrations.

Since Cox hasn't played for Orient this season (actually he has ), appearing for only 2 clubs is not a problem. If he had, then his registration with Leatherhead (edit; Burgess Hill - bloody Bullard in the Tinpot Thread distracted me) would have to be accepted by the EFL as an emergency loan rather than the standard loan outside the EFL that it appears to be. EFL new rules are:

4.3
Types of Registration

4.3.1
The following types of registration are permitted by The League:

Full Contract - Regulation 61
Non-Contract - Regulations 57 and 58
Multiple Monthly - Regulation 60
Standard Loan - Regulation 53.1
International Loan - Regulation 54
Emergency Goalkeeper Loan - Regulation 55
Academies - Regulation 59
Scholarship Scheme - Regulation 59

4.3.2
The documents of registration and of transfer of registration of a Player must be in the forms prescribed and issued by The League and not otherwise.

Edit: I understand that "Emergency Loans" still exist in the Conference/National League (despite FIFA's best efforts), so maybe that was the get out?

 

[Luke Imp]

I'm confused by this, how were we lucky? We got promoted as Champions twice (the first time with 1 up-1 down) and had that still been in place we wouldn't have gone down in 2015.

Exactly how I've explained it - that the bottle neck had gone when you were relegated and the league was poor in comparison to previous years. Not lucky that you won it - you won it because you were the best team in the league and deserved it over the season, just because you didn't really have any decent competition.

 

[Son of Cod]

Dean Henderson's been recalled by Manchester United due to an injury to one of their first team keepers.

Big loss for us, but a funny turn for McKeown who was saying he'll never play for us again and was a few grand away from a move to Shrewsbury. Good job that never happened!!

I think McKeown only said that because Bignot had told him he wasn't going to play for the rest of the season. Really lucky that McKeown is still here, hopefully he can put the last few months behind him and focus on playing here. I would love it if he can come back strong and prove his doubters wrong.

 

[Gladders]

I think McKeown only said that because Bignot had told him he wasn't going to play for the rest of the season. Really lucky that McKeown is still here, hopefully he can put the last few months behind him and focus on playing here. I would love it if he can come back strong and prove his doubters wrong.

Bignot says he didn't say that and Mckeown assumed that as Henderson was playing and then extended it meant Macca wouldn't play again.

I tend to accept that because no manager is surely going to tell his second choice keeper he will never play for the club again

 

[Son of Cod]

Bignot says he didn't say that and Mckeown assumed that as Henderson was playing and then extended it meant Macca wouldn't play again.

I tend to accept that because no manager is surely going to tell his second choice keeper he will never play for the club again

I did think it was strange that Bignot would have said that, when the current first choice is a 20 year old with about 10 games under his belt.

 

[AdamStag]

The conference works in a weird way as well - it makes you wonder just what could happen.

We were fortunate enough to gain promotion 4 season ago on the back of some stupid run where we won 21 out of the last 25 games - which was absolutely ridiculous.

Taking into account Kidderminster went on an even better run and missed out on the final day says it all - poor them wherever they are now!

If you thought Exeter were on a good run, Kidderminster finished on 93 points and had 5 points from the first 10 games. They gained 88 points from 36 games!

 

[hellogregory]

We've signed James Bailey today. Ex Crewe, Barnsley and Derby midfielder.


http://mobile.carlisleunited.co.uk/...ielder-james-bailey-joins-united-3553071.aspx

 

[jacobncfc]

Shola has signed in time for tomorrow apparently. Welcome Shola.

 

[GTFCfish]

If you thought Exeter were on a good run, Kidderminster finished on 93 points and had 5 points from the first 10 games. They gained 88 points from 36 games!

They also had 0 points after 5 games.

 

[RavenBish]

Shola has signed in time for tomorrow apparently. Welcome Shola.

hate to be that guy, but was this a rumour earlier today or have you been told by someone? Excitedly just had a look on Twitter but Big Al's Q&A sesh hasn't given owt away.

 

[AdamStag]

hate to be that guy, but was this a rumour earlier today or have you been told by someone? Excitedly just had a look on Twitter but Big Al's Q&A sesh hasn't given owt away.

Nice to know your promising career in the premiership ends up "passing" a trial at a club trying desperately to escape the conference.

 

[RavenBish]

Nice to know your promising career in the premiership ends up "passing" a trial at a club trying desperately to escape the conference.

he played like 300 games in the Premier League for his boyhood club, I'm sure he's pretty content with how his promising career panned out. Maybe he just likes playing football.

 

[AdamStag]

he played like 300 games in the Premier League for his boyhood club, I'm sure he's pretty content with how his promising career panned out. Maybe he just likes playing football.

There is that I suppose. Like when Luke Chadwick went to Cambridge.

Could work out alright for you he can play well.

 

[MrGloverLover]

We had a flurry of signings on deadline day, Kabongo Tshimanga, Jean-Louis Akra Akpro and Owain Jones to add to Brandon Goodship, Tom James and Shayon Harrison earlier in the month.

This means of our 26 player squad 9 are strikers so hopefully we'll improve out paucity of goals. Mind you our 26 players have a total of 65 Yeovil goals between them.

 

[WH_Stag]

To add to the conference debate....

The conference is the top of that part of the football pyramid so it should be treated like that and not just as promotion/relegation between the conference national and league two as we would compare between league two and one.

2 up 2 down is all it should be. Only one team wins the premiership so only one team should gain automatic promotion.
A play off place up for grabs makes the mid table teams have something to play for and makes it an ok league. So what you came second on 99 points, you came second so you haven't won anything and don't deserve to go straight up, not when you're trying to become a league club.
Something that would be better than a play off would be who ever comes second in the conference plays 2nd to bottom in league two haha

 

[GTFCfish]

2 up 2 down is all it should be. Only one team wins the premiership so only one team should gain automatic promotion.

What fantastic reasoning, as the quality of football and prize at stake are virtually identical......

 

[WH_Stag]

What fantastic reasoning, as the quality of football and prize at stake are virtually identical......

Top of the football league, one winner. Top of the conference, one winner. People need to stop treating it all as the same league. Fed up of seeing teams come second in the conference and thinking they deserve something. Whilst i think 1 up 1 down is a bit harsh, the current system works and should never be changed.

 

[That Fat Centre Half]

Technically since 1992 the top of the Football League is the Championship. So what you are advocating here is one up from the Championship.

 

[GTFCfish]

Top of the football league, one winner. Top of the conference, one winner. People need to stop treating it all as the same League. Fed up of seeing teams come second in the conference and thinking they deserve something. Whilst i think 1 up 1 down is a bit harsh, the current system works and should never be changed.

But in the same post you are treating it as the same as the Premier League and saying that therefore there should be the same reward for just the Champions.
Makes no sense at all.

 

[Flaxman's Alibi]

Personally since our own eye-scratching foray in to the Mordor League, I've always been an advocate for 3 up, 3 down. I felt that way when in it and I've felt that way out of it. I think the club's that drop there will never experience a more hopeless feeling in football. If you've not lived the sheer hell of it, you'll never understand.

It's like moving home and starting a new school, where everybody at your old one instantly forgets about you, like you no longer exist and might as well throw your new depressed self under the 16:55 train.

3up, 3down would give hope to those relegated clubs, who have to suffer a massive financial burden, once FL finances are stripped. Us, for one, would probably have done a Darlington, if it wasn't for our wealthy benefactor. When he came in, after 3 years in the pit, we were financially raped and was days from going out of business. Ironic how many of our own supporters conveniently forget that.

That's the grim reality of the National League - the toughest, most unforgiving league in the country, bar none. It gobbles up history and spits out reputation.
Look at Wrexham, a big lower leagues club, who will be serving a decade sentence next season. Personally, I feel for them (despite them being a bit Welsh), 99pts and no promotion isn't just a kick in the nuts, it's having them served in front of you on a bed of salad.

Clubs down there need hope. Clubs in this division need to be able to look at it and think "it's easier to escape from". Perhaps 2 automatically and the next 3 and 22nd in League 2 for a play off, would be the answer? The FL would never vote for it, but clubs would wish that they had once they feel the despair.

 

[shoddycollins]

Interesting or not that Charlie Wyke scored on his debut for Bratfut at the weekend, and so did the man he replaced, James Hanson for Sheffield United, and so did the man who replaced him at Carlisle, Jamie Proctor.

 

[Son of Cod]

I like the idea of 2nd in the Conference vs 3rd bottom in League 2, for the Football League spot and then 3rd to 6th in the Conference having the playoffs.

Flaxman is right though, until you've had that horrible day when your relegation down there is confirmed, until you've been tonked at Braintree, battered Havant and Waterloo for 89 minutes and lost to a speculative 45 yard punt into the corner flag that hit an absurdly unfortunate gust of wind and sailed past your keeper, had your fixture at Gateshead cancelled three times on the trot and had to play four times in a week because you also had an FA Cup qualifying round replay earlier in the season then you really don't know how tough it can be to get out. It makes me laugh when Leeds, Wednesday and Man City fans bang on about the cesspit that is League One. I feel like us, Luton, Oxford Cambridge, Mansfield, Lincoln, Wrexham, Brovers, Tranmere, etc will always be mutually bound now. Bound by the same thought, that is...



























...at least we're not fucking Stockport fans, the poor bastards.

 

[shoddycollins]

I feel like us, Luton, Oxford Cambridge, Mansfield, Lincoln, Wrexham, Brovers, Tranmere, etc will always be mutually bound now.

Aren't you forgetting someone?

 

[The Terminator]

Aren't you forgetting someone?

Yeah, but you went down for one season 13 years ago and came back first time. You don't count