League Two 22/23

[cookiemonster]

But was the Wirral ever part of Lancashire? I thought it was Cheshire and then Merseyside. So only right that no one there would care about Lancs.
The whole historic counties thing does have some cultural importance. Places that spent the best part of a thousand years identifying one way were arbitrarily lumped into a newly created metro borough. I can't comment on Merseyside too much as I'm not from there and never lived there. But despite some folk in places like St Helens having dodgy wool-scouse accents, that's not Liverpool. It's not even that close to the Mersey.
From a Greater Manchester point of view, it's quite annoying for a lot of people from bigger outlying towns like Bury, Rochdale, Stockport, Bolton etc to be called 'Manchester'. We're all distinct towns. I cringe when I hear people from somewhere like Wigan or Bolton say theyre from Manchester. They're just not. GManc was created out of bits of Lancs/Cheshire/West Yorkshire (and I think even some tiny Derbyshire too). So there's different dialects, cultures and histories. Someone from Hazel Grove says and does stuff quite a lot differently than someone from Horwich.
I think the further away from the urbanised M60 ring you'll find less of a connection to Manchester and more to the historic county. Especially so in more rural places like Littleborough (Lancs), Saddleworth (Yorks), Mellor (Derbyshire). They couldn't feel less like a part of a big city region like Manchester. These places have more in common with the neighbouring connurbations 'over the border' in Lancs/Yorks/Derbs. I know in the former two you'll regularly see the flag of the historic county flying and links to the past.

Anyway, as you can probably tell. Lancs not Manc for me!

And the historic counties are still relevant in many sports e.g. county cricket, amateur golf.

 

[E10rifle]

And the historic counties are still relevant in many sports e.g. county cricket, amateur golf.

Aye. Cricketing rivalries amongst the Home Counties are, in their own genteel way, fiercer and more ingrained than most of the footballing ones in the area. Essex, Kent, Sussex and Middlesex all have varying shades of dislike for each other, but it’s all put aside for the wider purpose of coming together to hate the Great Satan up at the Oval.

 

[Reremnart]

But was the Wirral ever part of Lancashire? I thought it was Cheshire and then Merseyside. So only right that no one there would care about Lancs.
The whole historic counties thing does have some cultural importance. Places that spent the best part of a thousand years identifying one way were arbitrarily lumped into a newly created metro borough. I can't comment on Merseyside too much as I'm not from there and never lived there. But despite some folk in places like St Helens having dodgy wool-scouse accents, that's not Liverpool. It's not even that close to the Mersey.
From a Greater Manchester point of view, it's quite annoying for a lot of people from bigger outlying towns like Bury, Rochdale, Stockport, Bolton etc to be called 'Manchester'. We're all distinct towns. I cringe when I hear people from somewhere like Wigan or Bolton say theyre from Manchester. They're just not. GManc was created out of bits of Lancs/Cheshire/West Yorkshire (and I think even some tiny Derbyshire too). So there's different dialects, cultures and histories. Someone from Hazel Grove says and does stuff quite a lot differently than someone from Horwich.
I think the further away from the urbanised M60 ring you'll find less of a connection to Manchester and more to the historic county. Especially so in more rural places like Littleborough (Lancs), Saddleworth (Yorks), Mellor (Derbyshire). They couldn't feel less like a part of a big city region like Manchester. These places have more in common with the neighbouring connurbations 'over the border' in Lancs/Yorks/Derbs. I know in the former two you'll regularly see the flag of the historic county flying and links to the past.

Anyway, as you can probably tell. Lancs not Manc for me!

Indeed Wirral has never been part of Lancashire as the River Mersey forms part of the border (hence why Stockport is also in Cheshire I assume as the river, although more a glorified steam at that point , runs through there) although both Widnes and Runcorn strangely are both Cheshire towns despite being separated by the river. The Wirral is and always has been in Cheshire as far as I`m concerned. My birth certificate says "Birkenhead Cheshire" and thats good enough for me as I do not recognise Merseyside as a county as it is totally artifical and just a way of getting the people of the Wirral, St Helens, Southport etc to contribute to the up keep of Liverpool (same as the so called Liverpool City region which pours millions upon millions into the city while the rest of us get very little out of it). And there are a lot of people here who do actually support Lancashire as it is the nearest first class county to us .

 

[Railway Blue]

And the historic counties are still relevant in many sports e.g. county cricket, amateur golf.

The Wirral originally had an ~ L ~ postcode , but they somehow persuaded the relevant authority to change it to CH to make themselves posher.

 

[Railway Blue]

fuck off

Have you tried anger management?

 

[RiftHouseLad]

Aye. Cricketing rivalries amongst the Home Counties are, in their own genteel way, fiercer and more ingrained than most of the footballing ones in the area. Essex, Kent, Sussex and Middlesex all have varying shades of dislike for each other, but it’s all put aside for the wider purpose of coming together to hate the Great Satan up at the Oval.

Talking Clicket on a football forum, How very dare you.

 

[joethegill]

Aye. Cricketing rivalries amongst the Home Counties are, in their own genteel way, fiercer and more ingrained than most of the footballing ones in the area. Essex, Kent, Sussex and Middlesex all have varying shades of dislike for each other, but it’s all put aside for the wider purpose of coming together to hate the Great Satan up at the Oval.

Surrey is a weird one. The Oval is very much a part of London, but very little of what I consider Surrey is actually within the M25 and therefore not very London at all.

In a cricketing sense they're arseholes though, agreed.

 

[GTFCfish]

Threads that preceded unfortunate events:

Don't mind me

Just getting my feet under the table here for next season. :ds:

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If anybody would like to pass on any personal condolences to B2TF then please post them here and I’ll pass them on to him on the other forum.

 

[AdamStag]

Threads that preceded unfortunate events:

Don't mind me

Just getting my feet under the table here for next season. :ds:

www.thefootballforum.net

If anybody would like to pass on any personal condolences to B2TF then please post them here and I’ll pass them on to him on the other forum.

tbh i didn’t who came up, halifax or grimsby will happily fight with the likes of crawley or stevenage for 18th or so while keeping far enough from relegation to be comfortable

 

[GTFCfish]

tbh i didn’t who came up, halifax or grimsby will happily fight with the likes of crawley or stevenage for 18th or so while keeping far enough from relegation to be comfortable

But at least we don’t bottle play offs.

If you’d like some tips on how to win them drop me a line.

 

[AdamStag]

But at least we don’t bottle play offs.

If you’d like some tips on how to win them drop me a line.

That’s what we do sadly, so instead of derby and sheffield weds we get to slum it with you guys.

I’d expect a decent tilt at automatic next season.

 

[GTFCfish]

That’s what we do sadly, so instead of derby and sheffield weds we get to slum it with you guys.

I’d expect a decent tilt at automatic next season.

To be honest the other known League 2 promotion bottle jobs Port Vale finally got out so maybe this year will be your turn, the amount of money you blow on failing every season it should be about time.

 

[AdamStag]

To be honest the other known League 2 promotion bottle jobs Port Vale finally got out so maybe this year will be your turn, the amount of money you blow on failing every season it should be about time.

Again another fan who comments on our wages without knowing the facts.

Whereas we’ve got the best chairman in the league we don’t “blow” masses, nor is clough (again one of the better managers in league 2 if not the best) doesn’t sign players on daft wages.

Hopefully next season we do finally make it, we deserve it in fairness.

 

[DearneValleyRover]

That’s what we do sadly, so instead of derby and sheffield weds we get to slum it with you guys.

I’d expect a decent tilt at automatic next season.

Excitement and Clough not a pairing I’d put in the same sentence

 

[Conker]

Excitement and Clough not a pairing I’d put in the same sentence

If you watched the stags this season just gone you would not be saying things like that!

 

[AdamStag]

If you watched the stags this season just gone you would not be saying things like that!

well yeah….

It was hard to comment against doncaster as there were few sides we’ve played like that last season, oldham, scunthorpe maybe barrow.

 

[chipmunx]

well yeah….

It was hard to comment against doncaster as there were few sides we’ve played like that last season, oldham, scunthorpe maybe barrow.

* we did beat you away (2nd season running)

 

[AdamStag]

* we did beat you away (2nd season running)

you did.

It was actually a catalyst for our run, i think after we’d lost to you we didn’t lose again at home until easter!

 

[chipmunx]

you did.

It was actually a catalyst for our run, i think after we’d lost to you we didn’t lose again at home until easter!

so ideally this coming season you want to lose to us at home 1st game of the season then?

 

[Boz]

The Wirral originally had an ~ L ~ postcode , but they somehow persuaded the relevant authority to change it to CH to make themselves posher.

You’re wrong on that one. Wirral had a CH postcode originally, got changed to L think when we joined Merseyside, which as you can imagine didn’t go down well. However changed back to CH a few years ago when our post got moved to being sorted from Warrington rather than Liverpool.

 

[E10rifle]

Hopefully next season we do finally make it, we deserve it in fairness.

Why?

 

[Fedora Dale]

Why?

It should be Barrow in fairness.

If you have a Scottish accent...

 

[Agombar stool]

It should be Barrow in fairness.

If you have a Scottish accent...

Pure class!

 

[GTFCfish]

Why?

Because a Mansfield promotion would give the world more moments like this to savour:

 

[Railway Blue]

You’re wrong on that one. Wirral had a CH postcode originally, got changed to L think when we joined Merseyside, which as you can imagine didn’t go down well. However changed back to CH a few years ago when our post got moved to being sorted from Warrington rather than Liverpool.

I think I'm right.

 

[AdamStag]

Why?

was slightly pissed when said that haha.

Well losing playoff finalists deserve, of course they do - it’s excellent logic.

 

[AdamStag]

Because a Mansfield promotion would give the world more moments like this to savour:
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Urgh, thankgod we’ve only ever been down there once!

 

[Boz]

I think I'm right.

Which bit of Wirral did you grow up in then? I’m West Kirby born and lived in Heswall and Oxton until moved away post Uni in the mid 80s. Still have friends and relatives living there. So while this isn’t a geography forum, I remain confident of my earlier account.

 

[Railway Blue]

Which bit of Wirral did you grow up in then? I’m West Kirby born and lived in Heswall and Oxton until moved away post Uni in the mid 80s. Still have friends and relatives living there. So while this isn’t a geography forum, I remain confident of my earlier account.

I live in Chester, but worked at both Clatterbridge and St Cath's Hospitasl. I checked with a mate of mine who lives in Little Sutton. I think it was 1999 when it changed from L to CH.

 

[Chief Rocka]

I take it everyone's clubs are back for pre season today? We've returned with 12 players so far, certainly a lot to do in that department.

Bring on the scouring of training pitch pics and people posting asking if anyone recognises who the blurry image of this random player at training is!