League Two Sack Race 2017-18

[valefan16]

I don't think Horton or Askey are anyone's first choice. I'm hoping it's Powell, but can't see it happening.

It depends what the people in control of the club are looking for... Horton for example would be a short term fix so thus the aim of keeping the club in the FL.

Someone like Powell would show longer term ambition to firstly stabilise the club this season and then be looking to get back where we feel we belong... ie League One and onwards. Askey to a degree would be the same outlook but with more of a gamble to it.

Simple fact is we need stability, we had two managers in over two decades up to 2004, even then Foyle did three years but other than the Adams years (and they were interrupted by him going to the Blunts) we’ve gone through multiple managers and instability. Over 50 players singed in the past 14 months and just rebuild after rebuild. We need someone to come in for the longer haul to do one final rebuild and go from there. There is enough in the squad to get out the mess and to comfortable safety with the right man, improvements were seen Saturday in the areas Brown failed at.

What I would like is someone who will develop the kids we’ve got coming through too. First time in years we’ve got some quality youngsters, Turner, Smith, Gibbons, Reeves etc

We need a longer term fix or if a Horton to come with a short term remit and longer term plan to be planned in the meantime to push on.

 

[valefan16]

Further twist to the tale at Vale Park with Smurf suggesting the Askey confirmation was ‘BS’ the betting is reopened.

Today Graham Westley is reported to have had an interview and now a front runner causing widespread panic amongst the Vale faithful. Smurf has claimed Sky Sources on Vale haven’t been HP or Daddies level...

Curtis Woodhouse applied but didn’t make
the cut... he’s tweeted that ‘if Westley gets the Vale job he will give up on management’ whilst Vale striker Tom Pope tweeted back if he gets the job he will give up football!

I’d rather close the club down than give that man the job, surely Adams wouldn’t advise on it!

His Stevenage sides were a disgrace on their few visits to Vale Park, the 2010 cup tie saw our then captain refer to them as ‘Cocky from the top down’ and their last league visit left a sour taste such we’re their antics in kicking, time wasting and diving their way to a point.

Surely won’t happen? I’d take Jim Fucking Gannon back over him!

 

[Buxton Vale]

Can't think of a worse applicant than Westley.

 

[Indian Dan]

Jeez, guys. I can't say PV have ever been on my Xmas list, but you seem to be getting fucked over by Smurf - feel for you if that happens. How can anyone come to the conclusion that Westley is the answer.

Dark days

 

[valefan16]

Jeez, guys. I can't say PV have ever been on my Xmas list, but you seem to be getting fucked over by Smurf - feel for you if that happens. How can anyone come to the conclusion that Westley is the answer.

Dark days

All hear say at the moment, Smurf has tweeted tonight that Askey hasn’t even been approached or interviewed which looked a done deal according to the bookies Saturday.

It appears Micky Adams is involved with the club and I can’t see him backing Westley for it.

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

Sounds like a done deal for Sir Jack.

The first time I've been pleased with any event at CFC in a very long time.

He will add a thousand to the crowd for the game at the weekend I'm sure, my temporary return included.

 

[valefan16]

Sounds like a done deal for Sir Jack.

The first time I've been pleased with any event at CFC in a very long time.

He will add a thousand to the crowd for the game at the weekend I'm sure, my temporary return included.

Huge gamble in your situation surely? In an identical situation our fans want experience purely because of the danger of getting it wrong I.e. losing FL status? Legends as players don’t mean great managers as we’ve found out more than once.

 

[genesimmons]

Hope it works out for jack lester helped gateshead out even thougth he had retired. Could go either way. Alan Shearer did not save newcastle despite been a legend but then again who could have back then. Has his appointement been confirmed yet? I thought club wanted a proven manager

 

[genesimmons]

Huge gamble in your situation surely? In an identical situation our fans want experience purely because of the danger of getting it wrong I.e. losing FL status? Legends as players don’t mean great managers as we’ve found out more than once.

For every kevin keegan theres been a john barnes and teddy sheringham

 

[redjed]

We at Swindon have been quite successful in getting in managers of a unknown capabilities, going back to Lou Macari , Ossie Ardiles, Glen Hoddle, Dennis Wise , Steve Mcmahon (HATED) and of course Paolo Di Canio, all got us a promotion, but Ardiles was wiped off due to the football league relegating us down after irregularities at the club.
So maybe the best place to look for a new manager is a ex or retired premiership player.... it seems to work... well for us it has

 

[Big Bird]

Not sure Lester is a great idea for Chesterfield. Massive risk when you look beyond the fact that he scored some goals for them.

 

[thewwfc]

As long as the endless hilarity of the 'Lesterfield' gag can be reinstated, I think we all know that that's all that matters.

 

[PiedPiper]

Huge gamble in your situation surely? In an identical situation our fans want experience purely because of the danger of getting it wrong I.e. losing FL status? Legends as players don’t mean great managers as we’ve found out more than once.

It is a gamble, unfortunately he won't stand a chance whilst Guy Branston is around. He puts any club he joins in a pickle, just ask us at Notts!

 

[Westbars_Spireite]

I'm hopeful Jack will have insisted on that twat Branston's removal.

Failing that he can just ignore him until he goes away.

 

[Big Bird]

Brian Horton and Westley in the running for Vale? Not good!

 

[valefan16]

Brian Horton and Westley in the running for Vale? Not good!

Cant see Westley getting it, Smurf will know in no uncertain circumstances now the feelings of the fans and indeed his supposedly marquee signing who's publically said he'd rather give up the game than play for him.

Horton wouldn't be the end of the world, loves the club and did well with us before BUT at his age wouldn't really be a longer term vision. Chris Powell for me is the man.

 

[Buxton Vale]

Hoping its Powell also, but can't see it happening.
Billy Davies, if he's applied would be ok, but under a DoF? ....I'm not sure about that
Edinburgh ..... no thanks
Westley..... no way
Askey would get my support, but wouldn't be my first choice
Horton would be ok short term, but not past the end of this season.

After that I'm not sure who is still in the running.

 

[spireite]

I'm hopeful Jack will have insisted on that twat Branston's removal.

Failing that he can just ignore him until he goes away.

Have you heard what he's on about now? Lester isn't 'the right sort of fit', 'we need experience', fucking hell Guy publicly coming out with that stuff before he's even started, talk about a jinx

 

[CFC91]

Strong rumours Sir Jack of Lesterfield could be about to make a return to us as manager..

Obviously a huge risk due to his in experience but done a stella job at Forest with their youth and ressies and he'd certainly get the fans backing.

Could be an interesting one if so.

Fans are buzzing abut it and rightly so, even if with our current clowns in charge it may not be the right time or the best time i'm sure everyone else would welcome him back with open arms..

 

[LordJord]

For every kevin keegan theres been a john barnes and teddy sheringham

He didnt do it at the right time.

 

[Never Mind The Paul Cox]

A rookie manager who can't even loan a single player until January, appointed into the most important position in a club's 150+ year history, by a bloke who has got his last three appointments massively wrong, who has presided over the clubs massive fall from grace in the last few years whilst scandal after scandal was going on at the club apparently unbeknown to him, who has a tendency to call his own customers "c***" on social media.....

I can't see what could possibly go wrong? Looks like a well thought out appointment to me?
Doesn't stink of "Please come back to the Proact, stay-away fans....we want/need your money" at all......

 

[Luke Imp]

Threads merged

TA

 

[AdamStag]

Oh dear.

I wonder when they say "what goes around, comes around" really does come true in football.

An appointment that smacks of desperation.

 

[valefan16]

That is a crazy gamble by Chesterfield in their situation and I hope we don't make the same kind of decision.

 

[spireite]

Worst comes tut worst, he can strap his boots on and get out there!!

 

[CFC91]

I'm partly absolutely buzzing, partly nervous as hell..massive gamble for us and Jack.

It's the return of the Jack..

 

[Super_horns]

Might be better off dusting his boots and getting on the pitch!

 

[Hamez]

Not bad from Chesterfield, a decision taken from the 'How to run a football club where the fans hate you' manual, written by Mr Michael Ashley.

Rule 46, if you're struggling to get fans onside, appoint their favourite ever player, that'll keep 'um quiet for a bit.

 

[SpireiteDan]

Good to see Mansfield fans coming here and trying to stick the boot in. Fair play to them....they have waited over 25 years to be in a position to do so after all!

I don't see how this "potential" appointment is any more risky than any other of the largely tried and failed managers available. Every manager has to have a first job and Jack isn't an idiot, he knows the club is a shambles currently. He knows the pressure is on to try and turn round 2 years of utter, utter shite on the pitch. On the other hand, he also knows what to expect from this league having played in it about 4 years ago. Plus he could hardly do worse than 3 wins in 29....i'd probably do better than that given the chance FFS.

He's been doing good things with the youth set-up at Forest by all accounts so it's not like he'd be thrown in without any coaching experience at all (though i fully appreciate that professional and youth football are different animals). It was pretty clear that he would go into coaching/management after he finished playing, i'm glad it's looking like it's going to be with us instead of some other club.

I'm not expecting miracles from him but he would be nice if he could treat us to a win every now and again. Looking forward to Saturday now, just need to get tonights inevitable defeat out of the way first.

 

[Fandemonium]

And so Chesterfield FC bow gracefully out of this thread pausing only to mouth 'He who laughs last...'